Dude Uses Jedi Mind Tricks To Get Through DUI Checkpoint

[CowboyMcCoy]

While I respect those of yours opinions who support checkpoints, I still must disagree. IMO they are no different than allowing an officer to pull your car over for no apparent reason to check for any criminal activity. I also must point out that the whole premise that any lives are saved by this practice is an assumption.

On a personal note, I have lost a close friend to a d&d accident and my opinion remains the same that they are unconstitutional and base on a presumption guilt.

I did enjoy the discourse on the subject.

I've lost a friend too. I still feel the same way.

 

[dez_for_prez]

or perhaps lets puts some surveillance cameras in streetlights (this is actually happening)

OMG whats next, metel detectors in school so kids can't bring weapons to school?

Why would you be against this? It would have zero effect on you unless you were involed in something you shouldnt have been. All it would do is prevent/solve crime. Personally I would prefere if they were in all traffic lights. I would feel a whole lot safer when im out late at night.

 

[Denim Chicken]

OMG whats next, metel detectors in school so kids can't bring weapons to school?

Why would you be against this? It would have zero effect on you unless you were involed in something you shouldnt have been. All it would do is prevent/solve crime. Personally I would prefere if they were in all traffic lights. I would feel a whole lot safer when im out late at night.

If you doing nothing wrong you should have nothing to hide, right? Orwell was indeed prophetic. Perhaps you wouldn't object to one in your house as well.

Sigh...I do believe we are doomed...Goodnight.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

If you doing nothing wrong you should have nothing to hide, right? Orwell was indeed prophetic. Perhaps you wouldn't object to one in your house as well.

Sigh...I do believe we are doomed...Goodnight.

Amen.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I agree, I would try to make it as time consuming and difficult as possible for the officers. They make be only ‘doing their job’, but they are also infringing upon our rights so resistance is necessary. By going along with ‘checkpoints’ you allow a precedent to be set and they will only further test the limits of what society will allow. How about random pat downs for weapons—that may save some lives—or perhaps lets puts some surveillance cameras in streetlights (this is actually happening). People who just shrug their shoulders and give up liberty for security will end up enslaving us all.

Seriously, please read this post again. And put it into the context of history. I'm sorry, but it is sort of a big deal. Even if people want to paint me a turd.

 

[jnday]

Seriously, please read this post again. And put it into the context of history. I'm sorry, but it is sort of a big deal. Even if people want to paint me a turd.

I have kept up with all the post on this thread , and have come away wondering how in the heck can being a jerk to some officer that is just doing his job , be the right thing to do ? Does it give you some feeling of being a big man to be disrespectfull to a man that is just doing his job ? You clearly have a problem with the system . Take action by contacting the people who order these checkpoints . Talk to elected officials . Take your displeasure out on the ones who deserve it .
I think that the seatbelt laws are a load of crap , but I don't take it out on a officer that is just trying to make a living .
I am not a big fan of government getting involved in our private lives , so I can understand your point of view . I just don't agree with the ways that you choose to express those views .

 

[Cythim]

I have kept up with all the post on this thread , and have come away wondering how in the heck can being a jerk to some officer that is just doing his job , be the right thing to do ? Does it give you some feeling of being a big man to be disrespectfull to a man that is just doing his job ? You clearly have a problem with the system . Take action by contacting the people who order these checkpoints . Talk to elected officials . Take your displeasure out on the ones who deserve it .
I think that the seatbelt laws are a load of crap , but I don't take it out on a officer that is just trying to make a living .
I am not a big fan of government getting involved in our private lives , so I can understand your point of view . I just don't agree with the ways that you choose to express those views .

You are exactly right, there is a time and a place to make a stand against government and it isn't at a sobriety check point. I don't like the current tax codes but I'll pay what I am supposed to first and make noise about it in the appropriate forums, to the appropriate people. This is worse than refusing to tip because you didn't like the Ranch dressing.

 

[Rynie]

I have kept up with all the post on this thread , and have come away wondering how in the heck can being a jerk to some officer that is just doing his job , be the right thing to do ? Does it give you some feeling of being a big man to be disrespectfull to a man that is just doing his job ?.

Exercising your rights does NOT make you a jerk. You can be more than respectful about it. Plus, if my freedom is at stake, I'm really not concerned whether a cop is going to perceive it as "being a jerk".

 

[Cythim]

Exercising your rights does NOT make you a jerk. You can be more than respectful about it. Plus, if my freedom is at stake, I'm really not concerned whether a cop is going to perceive it as "being a jerk".

Driving on publicly funded roads is not a freedom.

 

[jnday]

Driving on publicly funded roads is not a freedom.

What a great point . Rights and privileges are a point of confusion for many .

 

[YosemiteSam]

that isn't a fair response though, it is like the response when you say you are against the death penalty "what if your child was killed".

If he did something that warranted the death penalty I couldn't argue with it.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I've lost a friend too. I still feel the same way.

Yeah, but you're a crazy conspiracy theorist too. We expect as much from you. :laugh2:

 

[YosemiteSam]

On a personal note, I have lost a close friend to a d&d accident and my opinion remains the same that they are unconstitutional and base on a presumption guilt.

What? He didn't make his savings throw?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

OMG whats next, metel detectors in school so kids can't bring weapons to school?

Why would you be against this? It would have zero effect on you unless you were involed in something you shouldnt have been. All it would do is prevent/solve crime. Personally I would prefere if they were in all traffic lights. I would feel a whole lot safer when im out late at night.

the people who are willing to give up rights and freedoms in the name of security are those who usually don't have to worry about being harassed, arrested etc

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Yeah, but you're a crazy conspiracy theorist too. We expect as much from you. :laugh2:

Yes, I'm totally incapable of intelligent thought and coming to my own conclusions.

 

[dez_for_prez]

the people who are willing to give up rights and freedoms in the name of security are those who usually don't have to worry about being harassed, arrested etc

Please inform me of all the negatives that would come with traffic cams.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

the people who are willing to give up rights and freedoms in the name of security are those who usually don't have to worry about being harassed, arrested etc

They're also usually the least historically insightful people you'll meet, on the average.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I have kept up with all the post on this thread , and have come away wondering how in the heck can being a jerk to some officer that is just doing his job , be the right thing to do ? Does it give you some feeling of being a big man to be disrespectfull to a man that is just doing his job ? You clearly have a problem with the system . Take action by contacting the people who order these checkpoints . Talk to elected officials . Take your displeasure out on the ones who deserve it .
I think that the seatbelt laws are a load of crap , but I don't take it out on a officer that is just trying to make a living .
I am not a big fan of government getting involved in our private lives , so I can understand your point of view . I just don't agree with the ways that you choose to express those views .

Exercising your rights is not being a jerk to the officer. Officers should be well-trained to accept that.

 

[dez_for_prez]

They're also usually the least historically insightful people you'll meet, on the average.

Source? or are you just spouting?

Do you believe that in the next couple of years Orwells 1984 will come true? Or has it already...

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Source? or are you just spouting?

Do you believe that in the next couple of years Orwells 1984 will come true? Or has it already...

Look around you. This is what the founders warned us about....

http://denverabc.wordpress.com/2010...ndra-svoboda-found-guilty-facing-prison-time/

Act like it doesn't happen. I've been in a situation where police acted unethically because they weren't even at the right house. They thought I was someone with a spanish last name. I said my last name is ____, that's German!

The said I assaulted them because I told them to leave my house. You may be ok with them poking around, but I'm not. I had to deal with the village idiot in my case. And it cost me a lot of money just to clear my name.