CFZ Duece Vaughn Could End Up Being One of the Most Prolific Backs Ever

[DandyDon52]

I don't want to get into some stupid debate. But picture this. What if Deuce is just durable. He was in college. It was never even a problem. I realize they are all prone to injury. But there are certain guys that are just built for the game. If he can stay healthy, you're going to be surprised by how much this guy can carry the load. You have to get on the surface to see it. Even Big Nate Newton said it. He said, something along the lines of being apprehensive at first. Then he saw his thighs, and said his thighs are as big as mine, he'll be fine. Then described how truly built he is. I'm paraphrasing there. Jerry is putting his knowledge to use finally. He's finally on top of his game again. And I think it bodes well on him to be working hand-in-hand with a guy who can coach his own son like that. At that height, and have him be such a class act and all that.

It's going to be fun. Because both of these guys can get 12-ish carries a game. Sprinkle in some Dowdle and Luepke and we've got ourselves West Coast Party going on in our backfield.

And by prolific, I mean in Dallas, and that he's going to be in the game a lot, eventually. May take some work. And they shouldn't rush him. McCarthy said it best. He just looks comfortable in there

I also think Jerry's timing with the tag was perfect. He's being well advised by McClay, obviously. But it's good to see them working together.

Your being premature, because he has yet to play a single down in a real nfl game yet. This applies to any rookie.
The only thing I see is that if he gets to open field he will be hard to get hold of and could make some good runs. He has shown to be elusive.

But until we see a few games we dont know anything.
How will the cowboys use him? how much? in what manner? How will he do ?
The answer is we cant know till it happens.

If he has a good game early, fans will go nuts! I see that for sure.

But it all depends on how they use him and how much for him to do something good.
Same thing for Lipke and schoon, and several other new players.

We get our first look in like 10 days we need a countdown for the season start for that sunday night game

 

[CWR]

now the problem here is bijon Robinson would be expected to do that but the people underrating this kid because of his size DV is being underrated right now....

they're ignoring what he's done in high school and in college and what he's done so far in training camp....​

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They think his size is holding him back and yet somehow on every level it has not, He NOT shown to be injury prone, so no you can't say that about every back when you're talking about a guy that it looks like a long shot he's being underrated....​

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I think that it needs to be said, some people need to be in his corner because I think he's gonna surprise some people and he's gonna make some really big plays he just going to do it on a smaller scale, no pun intended, than what he did in college he's not going to have to tote the rock that much.​

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I expect him to be at least as effective as Tony Pollard and in that aspect out in pass plays, breaking the edge, and making moves and taking three-yard plays and making them 12 or 14...​

No one should ever expect the next Sanders or Smith. Many have tried and failed. That's all I'm saying.

I think your mind set is correct though. Hoping for a version of TP is good. I do think TP is a special back though. I don't know if its burst, vision, balance or what exactly because he's not a burner. At the same time he's not going to be caught when he gets a seem. If Pollard proves to be durable he can accomplish a lot. It's a high bar for Deuce to live up to. Although it's easy to see Deuce is electric with the ball in his hands.

 

[links18]

You've had that post on edit for a few days? You're as original as a Coors Banquet.

Who's trying to be original?

 

[blueblood70]

No one should ever expect the next Sanders or Smith. Many have tried and failed. That's all I'm saying.

I think your mind set is correct though. Hoping for a version of TP is good. I do think TP is a special back though. I don't know if its burst, vision, balance or what exactly because he's not a burner. At the same time he's not going to be caught when he gets a seem. If Pollard proves to be durable he can accomplish a lot. It's a high bar for Deuce to live up to. Although it's easy to see Deuce is electric with the ball in his hands.

Actually it's not...

I think that Tony Pollard had a less than stellar college career, whereas deuce Vaughn had an above average and way better 5000 scrimmage yards the number one receiving drafted running back in this year's draft is deuce Vaughn..​

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Tony Pollard isn't even the ceiling for DV but its nice start goal 1, but it is nice to know that right now I say they're on the same level. Now deuce Vaughn has to prove it but I'm telling you right now you look at what they both did in college you look at preseason, you look at training camp and practices, DV doing the same stuff he did in college in practice and preseason...​

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that means we can expect something similar when he comes up and suits up with the number one offense with a good offensive line and a game plan... No one is saying he's going to be Barry Sanders but let's get it straight he has Barry Sanders type moves, the way he can flow and start and stop on a dime and he ends up having like three different moves in one run.. it is Barry Sanders esque..​

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Are you calling Pollard special., I'm sorry dude if you saw the way he ended the season he is not a three down back he is a change of pace back and so is deuce Vaughn except for one fact deuce Vaughn in college was the go to running back on his team.. He took the load on his team he was a star in some of the bigger games they played against Texas Oklahoma Alabama and TCU in the Big 12 championship where he was the MVP...​

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show me where Tony Pollard did that in college, oh wait he also went to a smaller school did Tony Pollard and he split carries and really looked more like a receiver then a running back,​

yes he's done some good things when he had zeke coming in and he spelled him but now what he finished the season 3.8 yards per carry no explosive plays 51 yards per game no touchdowns and two injuries that's over A 5 game span to finish the season... that's what happens when you give a back like Tony Pollard too many carries.. So no I'm sorry Tony power is not special he's just a very good back he's a change of pace back but I believe deuce did more in college and he has the ability to be better than Tony Pollard given the circumstances size or no size.stay tuned..​

 

[Established1971]

How does someone have such a hyperbolic subject line and then begins a post with I dont want to get into a stupid debate? Maybe temper your subject line a little?

 

[CWR]

Actually it's not...

I think that Tony Pollard had a less than stellar college career, whereas deuce Vaughn had an above average and way better 5000 scrimmage yards the number one receiving drafted running back in this year's draft is deuce Vaughn..​

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Tony Pollard isn't even the ceiling for DV but its nice start goal 1, but it is nice to know that right now I say they're on the same level. Now deuce Vaughn has to prove it but I'm telling you right now you look at what they both did in college you look at preseason, you look at training camp and practices, DV doing the same stuff he did in college in practice and preseason...​

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that means we can expect something similar when he comes up and suits up with the number one offense with a good offensive line and a game plan... No one is saying he's going to be Barry Sanders but let's get it straight he has Barry Sanders type moves, the way he can flow and start and stop on a dime and he ends up having like three different moves in one run.. it is Barry Sanders esque..​

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Are you calling Pollard special., I'm sorry dude if you saw the way he ended the season he is not a three down back he is a change of pace back and so is deuce Vaughn except for one fact deuce Vaughn in college was the go to running back on his team.. He took the load on his team he was a star in some of the bigger games they played against Texas Oklahoma Alabama and TCU in the Big 12 championship where he was the MVP...​

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show me where Tony Pollard did that in college, oh wait he also went to a smaller school did Tony Pollard and he split carries and really looked more like a receiver then a running back,​

yes he's done some good things when he had zeke coming in and he spelled him but now what he finished the season 3.8 yards per carry no explosive plays 51 yards per game no touchdowns and two injuries that's over A 5 game span to finish the season... that's what happens when you give a back like Tony Pollard too many carries.. So no I'm sorry Tony power is not special he's just a very good back he's a change of pace back but I believe deuce did more in college and he has the ability to be better than Tony Pollard given the circumstances size or no size.stay tuned..​

His 92.0 run grade is the second-best among running backs over the last two seasons. He has been among the best backs at making big plays. He gained at least 10 yards on 16.1% of his carries and averaged 3.8 yards after contact per attempt.2 days ago

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TP has been fantastic in a limited role and I've been on record that I don't know he can hold up with more touches. He's still a damn fine back. This season will define what he is going forward.

Zeke hasn't had anything to do with Pollards success. If anything he's gotten in the way. Here's his starting numbers:

Tony Pollard has 68 carries for 420 yards and has scored 8 touchdowns in 6 games as a starter in his career. He also has about 120 receiving yards. He's averaged over 6 yards a carry in those starts and over 5 ypc for his career.

I've been an avid Duece fan from the draft so I mean zero hate, but you relying on College is nonsense. You can't compare them yet and to act like he's at least as good as Pollard is generous.

Fortunately I think between them, Rico and Luepke our rb room will perform very well. I dont care who has the most success, as long as we are winning.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Also....it appears Schoonmaker is a cross between Rob Gronkowsi and Kellen Winslow....but better.

I can tell....because I saw him on that preseason game.

 

[RonWashington]

Maybe we found our Boston Scott . Every time I watched the guy he moved the chains and it was first down Eagles . Vaughn will obviously help .

 

[DuncanIso]

Hasn't run a single snap in the NFL.

Agree.

Like Parcells said, put away the anointing oil.

 

[blueblood70]

His 92.0 run grade is the second-best among running backs over the last two seasons. He has been among the best backs at making big plays. He gained at least 10 yards on 16.1% of his carries and averaged 3.8 yards after contact per attempt.2 days ago

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TP has been fantastic in a limited role and I've been on record that I don't know he can hold up with more touches. He's still a damn fine back. This season will define what he is going forward.

Zeke hasn't had anything to do with Pollards success. If anything he's gotten in the way. Here's his starting numbers:

Tony Pollard has 68 carries for 420 yards and has scored 8 touchdowns in 6 games as a starter in his career. He also has about 120 receiving yards. He's averaged over 6 yards a carry in those starts and over 5 ypc for his career.

I've been an avid Duece fan from the draft so I mean zero hate, but you relying on College is nonsense. You can't compare them yet and to act like he's at least as good as Pollard is generous.

Fortunately I think between them, Rico and Luepke our rb room will perform very well. I dont care who has the most success, as long as we are winning.

Look dude I just told you I think he's a great player but look how he finished the season he cannot be leaned on as the number one all on his own he's a split carry back he will not do more he will do less if they keep leaning on him and I think deuce Vaughn can be as good.. It's nonsense to look at somebody's resume are you kidding me I see what the kid did it wasn't any small feat that 5000 scrimmage yards sharing that with who two other NFL players and Darren Sproles and Tyler Lockett 5000 scrimmage yards in college for a guy who said he's too small he comes from a sports background his family has him grounded you can tell he's mature and he can be Tony Pollard easily.. Only time will tell but don't say it's nonsense that is where you get your resume from the man has it all in the film room you can break it down it's there for you to see he's already done it at a high level where Tony Pollard didn't even really get going until his second year as a pro and now he finally hit his mark and look at the way his numbers fell off last year they went off a Cliff 3.8 yards per carry 0 touchdowns no explosive place 51 yards per game and two injuries that's over A5 game span to end the season.. And yet people are concerned about deuce Vaughn staying healthy and staying productive..?? It's not stupid you can project by what a guy did in college and where he's at in my opinion he's further ahead than Tony Pollard was coming into the NFL how could you deny that and I don't drink fanta..

 

[LysleE]

I love the optimism and recognize his skills, but let’s see how he plays during live games against starting defensive line-ups before he is anointed. I’m hoping he is as good as advertised and most importantly, can maintain his health during the longer NFL season.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Trying to be positive . It’s usually the opposite of trolling

He is thread title states Vaughn could end up being one of the most prolific HB's ever. Thats not "positive " thats irrational

 

[CCBoy]

Actually it's not...

I think that Tony Pollard had a less than stellar college career, whereas deuce Vaughn had an above average and way better 5000 scrimmage yards the number one receiving drafted running back in this year's draft is deuce Vaughn..​

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Tony Pollard isn't even the ceiling for DV but its nice start goal 1, but it is nice to know that right now I say they're on the same level. Now deuce Vaughn has to prove it but I'm telling you right now you look at what they both did in college you look at preseason, you look at training camp and practices, DV doing the same stuff he did in college in practice and preseason...​

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that means we can expect something similar when he comes up and suits up with the number one offense with a good offensive line and a game plan... No one is saying he's going to be Barry Sanders but let's get it straight he has Barry Sanders type moves, the way he can flow and start and stop on a dime and he ends up having like three different moves in one run.. it is Barry Sanders esque..​

​

Are you calling Pollard special., I'm sorry dude if you saw the way he ended the season he is not a three down back he is a change of pace back and so is deuce Vaughn except for one fact deuce Vaughn in college was the go to running back on his team.. He took the load on his team he was a star in some of the bigger games they played against Texas Oklahoma Alabama and TCU in the Big 12 championship where he was the MVP...​

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show me where Tony Pollard did that in college, oh wait he also went to a smaller school did Tony Pollard and he split carries and really looked more like a receiver then a running back,​

yes he's done some good things when he had zeke coming in and he spelled him but now what he finished the season 3.8 yards per carry no explosive plays 51 yards per game no touchdowns and two injuries that's over A 5 game span to finish the season... that's what happens when you give a back like Tony Pollard too many carries.. So no I'm sorry Tony power is not special he's just a very good back he's a change of pace back but I believe deuce did more in college and he has the ability to be better than Tony Pollard given the circumstances size or no size.stay tuned..​

Straight up fellow, I like how you see most discussed areas.

Dowdle and Luepke can share the pounding and handle it also.

 

[CCBoy]

He is thread title states Vaughn could end up being one of the most prolific HB's ever. Thats not "positive " thats irrational

For a Cowboys fan it doesn't hurt to dream some...that has carried fans since the beginnings.

 

[CCBoy]

No one should ever expect the next Sanders or Smith. Many have tried and failed. That's all I'm saying.

I think your mind set is correct though. Hoping for a version of TP is good. I do think TP is a special back though. I don't know if its burst, vision, balance or what exactly because he's not a burner. At the same time he's not going to be caught when he gets a seem. If Pollard proves to be durable he can accomplish a lot. It's a high bar for Deuce to live up to. Although it's easy to see Deuce is electric with the ball in his hands.

10 year cycles for top end...and then fortunate landings.

 

[tyke1doe]

Not at 5'5.

 

[Whirlwin]

He is thread title states Vaughn could end up being one of the most prolific HB's ever. Thats not "positive " thats irrational

You can’t be tunnel vision and focus on one point. Not accusing you. I’m just saying in general.

 

[Whirlwin]

Not at 5'5.

I don’t know why people think size as a handicap. Sometimes it’s an advantage.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

He is thread title states Vaughn could end up being one of the most prolific HB's ever. Thats not "positive " thats irrational

It would even be irrational to say that about bjan Robinson.

 

[darthseinfeld]

You can’t be tunnel vision and focus on one point. Not accusing you. I’m just saying in general.

Its literally the thread title