Easy Poll- Cowher versus Parcells NOW

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These polls just get dumber and dumber......Face it we have BP he's a good coach...BTW how my SB's has cower won???? Thought sooooooo....
 

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wileedog said:
What do you NOT GET about Parcells taking over a perennial 5-11 team with a roster loaded with crap? It takes time to turn that over, and the NFCE has been improving steadily along with us.

Or that Cowher every year has at least two completely abysmal teams in his division to beat up on, making the playoffs a virtual lock?


You know what. I am glad Parcells is back but there are just better coaches then him out there.


I look at it this way. If we do not get to the NFC Championship this comin year then I am with the people who wanna dump Parcells.


Joe Gibbs had just as big a problem as the Cowboys but did more for his team in 2 years then Parcells has done here in 3 years.
 

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Wolverine said:
What do you not GET about Cowher havin his Steelers in the Championship and Parcells havin yet to win just 1 playoff game for the Cowboys.

Oh wait.....maybe I need to put on my Silver and Blue glasses to see things the way you do.

What do yuo not get about these numbers:

Parcells: 3 SB appearences, 2 SB wins

Cowher: 1 SB appearence, no SB wins, 3 title game losses at home

Parcells was, is, and always will be the better coach.
 

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jksmith269 said:
These polls just get dumber and dumber......Face it we have BP he's a good coach...BTW how my SB's has cower won???? Thought sooooooo....


I really dont care about Super Bowls he has won when TRex and other dinosaurs were still on this planet.

It all comes down to what has he done for the Dallas Cowboys. So far 25 wins 24 losses....1 game above .500.


Bill Cowher has done more for his Steelers then Parcells has done for the Cowboys.
 

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Jimz31 said:
I'm not saying that I would take Cowher over BP, just saying that Cowher is an excellent coach.

I don't disagree with that at all. I really do like Cowher. I would be happy as a clam if by some miracle he took over for BP once he left after 2006 or 07.

I just think the knee jerk stuff because he won a big game today is ludicrous.
 

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Wolverine said:
Joe Gibbs had just as big a problem as the Cowboys but did more for his team in 2 years then Parcells has done here in 3 years.
Yeah that vaunted Gibbs offense was awe-inspiring.

Thanks Gregg Williams!!!!!!
 

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I really dont care about Super Bowls he has won when TRex and other dinosaurs were still on this planet.

It all comes down to what has he done for the Dallas Cowboys. So far 25 wins 24 losses....1 game above .500.


Bill Cowher has done more for his Steelers then Parcells has done for the Cowboys.
Cowher has also had 15 seasons with which to work with
 

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Jimz31 said:
Besides, Cowher has been to the Superbowl more recently than BP has.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Cowher last make it in 1995-96 and Parcells in 1996-97? That being said, I'd rather have Cowher, but I'd be happy with either.
 

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Jimz31 said:
Besides, does ANYBODY think that if BP were the coach there, that BR would be the QB?

I have no doubt he would be. Cowher didn't make Roethlisberger the starter as a rookie, you know. Roethlisberger took over because of Tommy Maddox's injury and earned the job permanently by playing extremely efficiently and winning 15 consecutive games. Parcells would love that, if he was the coach.
 

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I have no doubt he would be. Cowher didn't make Roethlisberger the starter as a rookie, you know. Roethlisberger took over because of Tommy Maddox's injury and earned the job permanently by playing extremely efficiently and winning 15 consecutive games. Parcells would love that, if he was the coach.

Adam, how dare you bring facts and objectiveness into a BP hate thread...
 

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jem88 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Cowher last make it in 1995-96 and Parcells in 1996-97?

Yes, Parcells has made the Super Bowl more recently than Cowher. So have Jim Fassell and Bill Callahan.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
What do yuo not get about these numbers:

Parcells: 3 SB appearences, 2 SB wins

Cowher: 1 SB appearence, no SB wins, 3 title game losses at home

Parcells was, is, and always will be the better coach.


This is 2006. What team is in a Championship and what team is 9-7 and did not even see the playoffs.

Who cares about the past. It is all about what Parcells has done for the Cowboys. Which is 1 game above .500
 

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Actually, Cowher Power has lost four AFC title games at home: 1994 to the Chargers, 1997 to the Broncos, 2001 to the Pats, and 2004 to the Pats. I think he gets his once every 10 years win next week- win or lose at least he won't be at home.
 

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Wolverine said:
This is 2006. What team is in a Championship and what team is 9-7 and did not even see the playoffs.

Who cares about the past. It is all about what Parcells has done for the Cowboys. Which is 1 game above .500


and as has been said (and ignored by you) several times. Cowher has had 14 years to put his team together. Parcells took over a crap team 3 seasons ago and we are already alot better
 

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Man. This is gonna be a very long off season.
 

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AdamJT13 said:
Yes, Parcells has made the Super Bowl more recently than Cowher. So have Jim Fassell and Bill Callahan.
I forgot about that one in 96-97.

Don't be too sure that BP would have stayed with BR...I could see him scouring the waiver wire for a vet after Maddox went down.
 

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Jimz31 said:
I forgot about that one in 96-97.

Don't be too sure that BP would have stayed with BR...I could see him scouring the waiver wire for a vet after Maddox went down.

Nah, Bill compared Big Ben to a young Dan Marino last year. He clearly likes the kid.
 

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BigDFan5 said:
and as has been said (and ignored by you) several times. Cowher has had 14 years to put his team together. Parcells took over a crap team 3 seasons ago and we are already alot better


I will say this. I am glad we still have BP. But that is only cuz there are not any better coaches we could get here.

But if we could either have Cowher or Parcells I would take Cowher over Parcells easy. At least with Cowher we would always be in the playoffs instead of just 1 game above .500


I have already said it. Parcells is a good coach but there are other coaches that are clearly better then him. Cowher is one of them.
 

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wileedog said:
Nah, Bill compared Big Ben to a young Dan Marino last year. He clearly likes the kid.

Yes, AFTER he was already winning. I doubt that he would get that chance.

Furthermore, in retrospect, I'm sure that BP wouldn't compare BR to Dan Marino anymore.

Just look at how the Steelers try not to pass the ball as much...almost like they are hiding some of his weaknesses. Still hasn't had a 3000 yard season, albeit he also hasn't played 16 games in a season yet either.

He also RARELY thorws the ball 30+ times a game. In 13 games this year, he threw 20+ times only 8 times. Only completed 20 passes in a game twice including last year.

Marino-like? Hardly.
 

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Wolverine you just crack me up with every one of your replies making less and less sense.

I really wonder if you stop to comprehend what you're actually replying to.


This is interesting:

In 13 seasons under Cowher, the Steelers have earned nine postseason berths, captured eight division titles, advanced to five AFC Championship games and made one Super Bowl appearance. He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least eight division titles.

During his 15 seasons as an NFL head coach, Parcells has posted a record of 149-106-1, including victories in Super Bowls XXI and XXV with the New York Giants and an appearance in Super Bowl XXXI with the New England Patriots. Parcells returns to the NFL as the third winningest active coach, trailing only Dan Reeves (197 in 22 years) and Marty Schottenheimer (166 in 17 years). His 149 career wins place him 13th overall in NFL history.

Parcells has guided his teams to 10 winning seasons, eight playoff berths and an 11-6 postseason record.

Cowher's Steelers division foes:
Cincinatti
Cleveland
Baltimore

Parcells' teams division foes:
Giants: Cowboys, Commanders, Eagles
Patriots: NY Jets, Buffalo, Miami
Cowboys: Giants, Commanders, Eagles

Is it just me or is there a clear difference in division caliber?
 
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