Easy Poll- Cowher versus Parcells NOW

[Bob Sacamano]

Right NNNNNOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW....Cowher is clearly a better coach.

and again, what part about Cowher having 15 years to construct his team, to Parcells 2, after inheriting one of the worst ball-clubs of this decade, don't you get? or are you claiming ignorance?

mental retardation, or ignorance, which one is it?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Simple question...

If Cowher were the Dallas Cowboys head coach for 14 years and only once had them in the superbowl and NEVER won a Super Bowl... would you fire him? Would you allow him to last 14 years with making it to the playoffs almost every year but only once making it past the Conference Championship?

isn't it a fact that the Rooney's hate firing their coaches?

 

[GoDallas]

Cowher is an idiot. He has had one of the most talented teams for a decade now with little to show for it. Plus, the Steelers have played in the easiest division since Cowher took over.

Also, I know this is not the best example BUT check the Steelers boards - most want him gone (at least before this postseason & when they lose to Denver - it will be again).


Now - the Steeler GM/scouts & player personnel - HIRE THEM!

 

[TEK2000]

And you don't think for a second that Cowher hasn't had to remake that team? He certainly don't have the same roster of players now as when he took over from Noll. He has proven he can build a team himself and make it a winner. Cowher has only failed to make the playoffs once in the last 5 seasons and has his team 1 game away from a superbowl for a second consecutive season. In Parcells last 10 years of coaching (4 in New England, 3in New York & 3 in Dallas) Parcells has only produced 3 playoff wins compared to 4 playoff losses.

Like I said in my earlier post, I'm not saying I'd take Cowher over Parcells, but the gap between these coaches is nowhere near as far apart as some are making it out to be. Just like players usually have a set amount of time to show teams they can be an asset to that team so to do coaches and I think after next season BP will have had enough time to show whether he is truly a great coach or simply one living on past glory.

1) I seriously doubt Cowher has ever had to overhaul his entire roster like Bill Parcells has had to do with the Cowboys. I can only think of maybe 4 or 5 current Cowboys players that were on our roster before Bill Parcells took over.

2) What's the measure of a great coach? Are you expecting BP to win the Super Bowl next season... if so, you just showed that Bill Cowher is NOT a great coach because he hasn't managed to do it in 14 years with the same team.

3)

In Parcells last 10 years of coaching (4 in New England, 3in New York & 3 in Dallas) Parcells has only produced 3 playoff wins compared to 4 playoff losses.

There ya go.. leave out the 2 Super Bowl wins and the 8-3 Playoff record with the Giants.

 

[genghiskhan]

Or, you can look at it this way, If the Steelers had BP this whole time, they would have alot more close games...ie., close losses.

Cowher is and has been an excellent coach since he's been in the NFL.

Right now, I'm not sure who I would take.

Besides, does ANYBODY think that if BP were the coach there, that BR would be the QB?

If Parcells had been in Pittsburgh, would he ever have been stupid enough to make Kordell Stewart the starting QB for several years? Would he ever have tried to make Tommy Maddox the starting QB? Don't conveniently ignore Cowher's QB transgressions.

By the way, anyone here who would rather have Cowher, come see me when he wins one Super Bowl, let alone two. I think Cowher is a good coach, but until you actually put the skins on the wall, it's just speculation. Cowher has had plenty of time to do it, and several of those years there wasn't a whole lot of quality competition in his conference.

The truth is I like both guys as coaches. If I had a vacancy I'd be happy with either. But if I had a head coaching job open and it came down to the two of them, based on what each has produced up to this time, I'd take Parcells over Cowher every time.

 

[AdamJT13]

There ya go.. leave out the 2 Super Bowl wins and the 8-3 Playoff record with the Giants.

Not to mention that those 10 years included taking over three different teams who had gone 2-14, 1-15 and 5-11 in the season before he arrived and hadn't won more than six games in at least three years before his arrival.

 

[Wolverine]

and again, what part about Cowher having 15 years to construct his team, to Parcells 2, after inheriting one of the worst ball-clubs of this decade, don't you get? or are you claiming ignorance?

mental retardation, or ignorance, which one is it?

You know what your right. I have it all wrong.

Bill Parcells 9-7 record is actually better then the 11-5 record Cowher got the Steelers. And the Cowboys team is really better then the Steeler team in the AFC Championship. Records dont matter and the Steelers bein 1 game away from the Super Bowl dont matter either. The fact that Bill Parcells is the coach of the Cowboys is all we need to prove he is a better coach NOW then Cowher.

I should realize how lucky we are to have a coach that gave us a 9-7 record and has our team sittin at home while that joke for a coach Cowher has his team in the AFCC
I think even if we go 0-16 next year that Parcells is still the best coach in the NFL.



Oh and it is a fact that Cowher has his team in the AFCC and the Boys have yet to win a playoff game under Parcells. Oh but wait.....sorry...I forgot....facts only count with you if they show love to your lover Zimmer.

 

[parcellsguys]

I think 39 people forgot that Cowher has lost four AFC Championship games at home and 1 Super Bowl. He hasn't won anything for the mantle yet.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Wolverine you just crack me up with every one of your replies making less and less sense.

I really wonder if you stop to comprehend what you're actually replying to.


This is interesting:





Cowher's Steelers division foes:
Cincinatti
Cleveland
Baltimore

Parcells' teams division foes:
Giants: Cowboys, Commanders, Eagles
Patriots: NY Jets, Buffalo, Miami
Cowboys: Giants, Commanders, Eagles

Is it just me or is there a clear difference in division caliber?

This is really a silly topic BP vs BC

Bill Cowher is not even as good as Marv Levy and Marv was bad... but atleast Marv can say he made it to 4 SB's.
Cowher can only say that he lost 3 or 4 AFC titles games at home? Then finally made it to one SB and lost it.

1992 1st AFC Central Lost Divisional Playoffs (Bills)
1993 2nd AFC Central Lost Wild Card Playoffs (Chiefs)
* 1994 1st AFC Central Lost Conference Championship (Chargers)
1995 1st AFC Central WON AFC Lost Super Bowl XXX (Cowboys)
1996 1st AFC Central Lost Divisional Playoffs (Patriots)
* 1997 1st AFC Central Lost Conference Championship (Broncos)
1998 3rd AFC Central --
1999 4th AFC Central --
2000 3rd AFC Central --
* 2001 1st AFC Central Lost Conference Championship (Patriots)
2002 1st AFC North Lost Divisional Playoffs (Titans)
2003 3rd AFC North --
* 2004 1st AFC North Lost Conference Championship (Patriots)
2005 2nd AFC North Qualified for playoffs



BP is a rebuilder of teams. His record takes a hit for that. I am not a big BP fan, but he knows what he is doing in aspects of the game.

Cowher is overrated and WILLNOT win SB. May not even get past Denver.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You know what your right. I have it all wrong.

Bill Parcells 9-7 record is actually better then the 11-5 record Cowher got the Steelers. And the Cowboys team is really better then the Steeler team in the AFC Championship. Records dont matter and the Steelers bein 1 game away from the Super Bowl dont matter either. The fact that Bill Parcells is the coach of the Cowboys is all we need to prove he is a better coach NOW then Cowher.

I should realize how lucky we are to have a coach that gave us a 9-7 record and has our team sittin at home while that joke for a coach Cowher has his team in the AFCC
I think even if we go 0-16 next year that Parcells is still the best coach in the NFL.



Oh and it is a fact that Cowher has his team in the AFCC and the Boys have yet to win a playoff game under Parcells. Oh but wait.....sorry...I forgot....facts only count with you if they show love to your lover Zimmer.

mental retardation then

 

[Kilyin]

I voted Cowher for the simple fact he is younger and would provide more longevity to the coaching staff. Parcells will continue to be a bigger question mark with each passing year.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I voted Cowher for the simple fact he is younger and would provide more longevity to the coaching staff. Parcells will continue to be a bigger question mark with each passing year.

that's the only reason I'd take Cowher over Parcells too, but to suggest that Cowher is so much better, that's hogwash

 

[kojak]

I voted for Cowher because I believe He plays to win instead of playing not to lose. If Cowher would have taken over in 2003 we would already have a franchise QB in place instead of retreads.

Also Cowher would have a solid O-line by now, something that Parcells has yet to acheive after 3 years. Cowher seems to motivate his teams, Parcells forgot how to motivate this year when needed against the Giants and the Skins on the road. 1st rule as a coach is to win in your division.

I am glad we have Parcells because I don't see many choices on the market. And I like the talent level that he has brought in. But after 3 years and the amount of money he is making, the results should be better than what they are. And surely 25-24, one playoff appearance and never finishing better than second place in the division doesn't merit a raise and contract extension.