Enough

tupperware;3559547 said:
You make a good point, but from my angle it's not about what we can achieve in the regular season. It's, where can we go in the post-season? I'm tired of being the regular season champions. The problems this team shows will do nothing but provide us with a swift exit out of the playoffs.

I almost addressed that very thing in my post, but I will now.

If all you care about is winning the Super Bowl and anything else is a failure, you might as well log off right now and find another hobby. There's probably a 20% chance *at best* that we win the Superbowl. Anyone with any sense of, yes, realism knows that. So the odds are stacked against it happening in any one year. Why set yourself up like that? Why know that four in five outcomes are going to make you miserable?

Cowboys fans are so spoiled. We were damn lucky to experience all the wins and the championships from the Landry and Jimmy days, but they mean nothing today. Yet some people act like there should be some carryover and they are owed wins. Guess what? We aren't.

Some people like me with "low standards" want to make the playoffs, get in the tournament (as Parcells said) and see what happens. If it does happen, it will be a lot of fun along the way. That's no less a reasonable outlook than the "Superbowl or cry like a *****" crowd. Actually, it's a lot more reasonable.
 
VACowboy;3559550 said:
I agree. Talk of firing coaches mid-season and cutting players for single mistakes is over the top. But so is ignoring the fact that the team continually self-destructs and berating anyone who disagrees with the idea that the Cowboys will be just fine. In my opinion, you can't tell much about a team until after week three has been played, but the stupid crap that got the Cowboys beat Sunday night is nothing new. It's more of the same. It's beyond frustrating and I don't understand why we can't discuss it.

As I said I don't think anyone is happy with the play of the team right now and with high expectations that anger is double right now. I fully understand that having real conversation about mistakes or bad calls are perfectly legit it is the over the edge crowd who is beyond reason. Unless you are ranting and carrying on people assume all you want is mediocrity which is far from the truth it is hard to carry on conversation when those going off on constant rants
 
tupperware;3559557 said:
It's hidden beneath the yellow flags.
Oh look, you playing piggy back again instead of having your own thoughts. How predictable.
 
tomson75;3559558 said:
I guess you weren't here on monday when the "Realists" were telling the "homers" that they weren't allowed to post anything encouraging until wednesday......

:rolleyes:
Huh!!!! The Homers waited until today?
 
Chocolate Lab;3559565 said:
I almost addressed that very thing in my post, but I will now.

If all you care about is winning the Super Bowl and anything else is a failure, you might as well log off right now and find another hobby. There's probably a 20% chance *at best* that we win the Superbowl. Anyone with any sense of, yes, realism knows that. So the odds are stacked against it happening in any one year. Why set yourself up like that? Why know that four in five outcomes are going to make you miserable?

Cowboys fans are so spoiled. We were damn lucky to experience all the wins and the championships from the Landry and Jimmy days, but they mean nothing today. Yet some people act like there should be some carryover and they are owed wins. Guess what? We aren't.

Some people like me with "low standards" want to make the playoffs, get in the tournament (as Parcells said) and see what happens. If it does happen, it will be a lot of fun along the way. That's no less a reasonable outlook than the "Superbowl or cry like a *****" crowd. Actually, it's a lot more reasonable.

Boom. CL telling it like it is.
 
Chocolate Lab;3559542 said:
I remember a bunch of these "realist" posts last year after the Denver game, too. They "knew" that this team was hopeless and we were just playing out the string to a disastrous .500 year at best. And anyone who said otherwise was a brainless, Kool-Aid drinking homer who refused to see all the fatal flaws in this team.

tomson75;3559554 said:
I do too.

God forbid a fan wait until after week two to freak out....stupid homers.

The events that have unfolded on this board over the last couple of days are nothing close to the way this board was lit up last year. It's not even close to being similar. So I ask both of you, why are you blowing things out of proportion? Do we care to go back to the lame realist/homer imaginary sides again? I was part of that and it wasn't much fun. There has been more civil healing on this board in the past couple of days than anything else. Don't let one or two lame fire the coaches or fire the players threads skew the real numbers. You act as though people can't share thoughts. It is a message board IIRC.
 
tomson75;3559558 said:
I guess you weren't here on monday when the "Realists" were telling the "homers" that they weren't allowed to post anything encouraging until wednesday......

:rolleyes:

I must have missed that one.

Glad I did.
 
Hostile;3559567 said:
Oh look, you playing piggy back again instead of having your own thoughts. How predictable.
I find the hypocrisy almost as foul smelling as the curdled milk.

:)
 
Bleu Star;3559577 said:
The events that have unfolded on this board over the last couple of days are nothing close to the way this board was lit up last year. It's not even close to being similar. So I ask both of you, why are you blowing things out of proportion?

I'll respond by asking you to show me one post where I've blown anything out of proportion.
 
stasheroo;3559581 said:
I must have missed that one.

Glad I did.

I must have missed that one too... I obviously need to work less and spend more time visually connected to this board. :D
 
Chocolate Lab;3559565 said:
I almost addressed that very thing in my post, but I will now.

If all you care about is winning the Super Bowl and anything else is a failure, you might as well log off right now and find another hobby. There's probably a 20% chance *at best* that we win the Superbowl. Anyone with any sense of, yes, realism knows that. So the odds are stacked against it happening in any one year. Why set yourself up like that? Why know that four in five outcomes are going to make you miserable?

Cowboys fans are so spoiled. We were damn lucky to experience all the wins and the championships from the Landry and Jimmy days, but they mean nothing today. Yet some people act like there should be some carryover and they are owed wins. Guess what? We aren't.

Some people like me with "low standards" want to make the playoffs, get in the tournament (as Parcells said) and see what happens. If it does happen, it will be a lot of fun along the way. That's no less a reasonable outlook than the "Superbowl or cry like a *****" crowd. Actually, it's a lot more reasonable.

You got that right. How often are the Colts predicted to win the SB yet in all the years of Manning being in Indy they have managed 1 SB win. I want the SB as much as anyone it is just not that easy and what I hope for is to have a team who is a true contender at the end of the year who has a shot at the ring. I think Dallas is a contender as are some other talented teams some who like Dallas lost this past weekend.
 
Chocolate Lab;3559565 said:
I almost addressed that very thing in my post, but I will now.

If all you care about is winning the Super Bowl and anything else is a failure, you might as well log off right now and find another hobby. There's probably a 20% chance *at best* that we win the Superbowl. Anyone with any sense of, yes, realism knows that. So the odds are stacked against it happening in any one year. Why set yourself up like that? Why know that four in five outcomes are going to make you miserable?

Cowboys fans are so spoiled. We were damn lucky to experience all the wins and the championships from the Landry and Jimmy days, but they mean nothing today. Yet some people act like there should be some carryover and they are owed wins. Guess what? We aren't.

Some people like me with "low standards" want to make the playoffs, get in the tournament (as Parcells said) and see what happens. If it does happen, it will be a lot of fun along the way. That's no less a reasonable outlook than the "Superbowl or cry like a *****" crowd. Actually, it's a lot more reasonable.
Who said anything about winning a Super Bowl? I'd like to see this team play in an NFC championship game, and win or lose, look like we belong. When's the last time that happened? I suppose that is too much to ask.
 
Chocolate Lab;3559565 said:
I almost addressed that very thing in my post, but I will now.

If all you care about is winning the Super Bowl and anything else is a failure, you might as well log off right now and find another hobby. There's probably a 20% chance *at best* that we win the Superbowl. Anyone with any sense of, yes, realism knows that. So the odds are stacked against it happening in any one year. Why set yourself up like that? Why know that four in five outcomes are going to make you miserable?

Cowboys fans are so spoiled. We were damn lucky to experience all the wins and the championships from the Landry and Jimmy days, but they mean nothing today. Yet some people act like there should be some carryover and they are owed wins. Guess what? We aren't.

Some people like me with "low standards" want to make the playoffs, get in the tournament (as Parcells said) and see what happens. If it does happen, it will be a lot of fun along the way. That's no less a reasonable outlook than the "Superbowl or cry like a *****" crowd. Actually, it's a lot more reasonable.

Is it too much to expect being bounced out of the playoffs a bit further in? Maybe being bounced out by losing by a field goal or something? Why do our seasons typically end in the most dramatic fashion with a total team collapse? That's what I'm especially not okay with, but a Superbowl certainly would be nice. But I guess we as good as this team should be, we should be okay with the mental ineptitude holding it back.
 
CowboyMike;3559345 said:
It is Wednesday and the stupidity in this place continues.
Continues is right - it was here well before Sunday...

Here's the thing - you are always going to have the over-reactors who want to cut Choice or fire Wade one game into the season (I am on board with his ejection, but not mid season), or firing Garrett and replacing him with the special teams coach (!?!?!), or other ridiculous knee-jerk responses...

But I would respond, in the spirit of your topic, "enough", that as frustrated as you are with the above nincompoopery, that alot of fans are equally grated, saying "enough" to a team that is addled, slovenly, unprepared, happy-go-lucky, and far less than the sum of it's parts should be.
 
Chocolate Lab;3559565 said:
I almost addressed that very thing in my post, but I will now.

If all you care about is winning the Super Bowl and anything else is a failure, you might as well log off right now and find another hobby. There's probably a 20% chance *at best* that we win the Superbowl. Anyone with any sense of, yes, realism knows that. So the odds are stacked against it happening in any one year. Why set yourself up like that? Why know that four in five outcomes are going to make you miserable?

Cowboys fans are so spoiled. We were damn lucky to experience all the wins and the championships from the Landry and Jimmy days, but they mean nothing today. Yet some people act like there should be some carryover and they are owed wins. Guess what? We aren't.

Some people like me with "low standards" want to make the playoffs, get in the tournament (as Parcells said) and see what happens. If it does happen, it will be a lot of fun along the way. That's no less a reasonable outlook than the "Superbowl or cry like a *****" crowd. Actually, it's a lot more reasonable.



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tomson75;3559583 said:
I'll respond by asking you to show me one post where I've blown anything out of proportion.
ok....

Chocolate Lab;3559542 said:
I remember a bunch of these "realist" posts last year after the Denver game, too. They "knew" that this team was hopeless and we were just playing out the string to a disastrous .500 year at best. And anyone who said otherwise was a brainless, Kool-Aid drinking homer who refused to see all the fatal flaws in this team.
tomson75;3559554 said:
I do too.

God forbid a fan wait until after week two to freak out....stupid homers.



IMO, comparing the discussion that has taken place over the last two days to that is a bit of a reach.
 
Hostile;3559561 said:
Whatever happened to mine? I need to slap you on the back and agree for you to feel like a man?

Thanks anyway but I don't need the vindication or approval.

Okay, stash you are 100% right. Kudos on your great thoughts that have enlightened and inspired everyone to greater heights as Cowboys fans. I believe someone on this forum will go on to invent the cure for cancer and AIDS because of the sheer inspiration caused by your posts.


Back to the real world. If there is a "forum police force" they exist to cancel out the ***** patrol. Get used to it. It's the real freaking world.

Keep up with the endless posts telling everyone how they 'don't get it' or 'don't understand the game' because they don't agree with how you see it.

A real service to all.

If you're happy with the franchise's longest championship drought, more power to ya, other people have higher standards for their favorite team.

Keep telling everyone how clueless they are while the team keeps spinning its' wheels and wasting its' talent.
 
Venger;3559593 said:
Continues is right - it was here well before Sunday...

Here's the thing - you are always going to have the over-reactors who want to cut Choice or fire Wade one game into the season (I am on board with his ejection, but not mid season), or firing Garrett and replacing him with the special teams coach (!?!?!), or other ridiculous knee-jerk responses...

But I would respond, in the spirit of your topic, "enough", that as frustrated as you are with the above nincompoopery, that alot of fans are equally grated, saying "enough" to a team that is addled, slovenly, unprepared, happy-go-lucky, and far less than the sum of it's parts should be.

:post:
 

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