Equal Opportunity Case

[The Quest for Six]

They didn't investigate Josh Brown. They spent 13 months on this. Brown beat the crap out of his wife for years.

Zeke is paying the price for others. Brown, Rice, Hardy.......

Meanwhile, Pacman Jones just got arrest for the 9th time, and he got one game.

The NFL did investigate Brown, the Sheriff wouldn't cooperate with the investigation, the league only knew on ONE event at the time they suspended him...ZEKE has 6 different separate incidents, I explained that already

Zeke and his lawyers failed to comply with the NFL investigation, he spent 6 months refusing to turn over his phone, delaying the investigation...This is the new NFL, and the punishing guidelines has changed, better get used to it, because Damian Wilson will be next to feel that hammer from the NFL

 

[waldoputty]

Then you can't work with it. Because it is not complete enough to support where you are trying to go with it.

it is plenty for the public relations angle.
i believe the worse thing in an equal opportunity case is you dont get the desired result.
the threat of losing such a case should make the nfl and the owners take pause and give up.

 

[John813]

They didn't investigate Josh Brown. They spent 13 months on this. Brown beat the crap out of his wife for years.

Zeke is paying the price for others. Brown, Rice, Hardy.......

Meanwhile, Pacman Jones just got arrest for the 9th time, and he got one game.

The NFL placed kicker Josh Brown on paid leave Friday, a day after re-opening its investigation into the 2015 domestic abuse complaint against the 14-year veteran. Brown said in journal entries and emails released by police on Thursday that he repeatedly verbally and physically abused his former wife, Molly Brown.

The revelations left fans outraged because Brown received only a one-game suspension following the league’s 10-month investigation into the case

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sport...own-on-paid-leave-during-abuse-investigation/

 

[waldoputty]

Jerry to bunch of owners "guys, zeke is pissed and his lawyers with file with equal employment. We better stop this thing. ... Roger is incompetent when it comes to this stuff. We need to take this out of his hands. He is going to cost us money, PR and more"

 

[waldoputty]

The NFL placed kicker Josh Brown on paid leave Friday, a day after re-opening its investigation into the 2015 domestic abuse complaint against the 14-year veteran. Brown said in journal entries and emails released by police on Thursday that he repeatedly verbally and physically abused his former wife, Molly Brown.

The revelations left fans outraged because Brown received only a one-game suspension following the league’s 10-month investigation into the case

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sport...own-on-paid-leave-during-abuse-investigation/

yet the number of games did not change.
compare apples to apples.
time to file that equal opportunity case now before NFL acts on the josh brown situation to cover its tracks!

i think someone already said the josh brown suspension came after the mandatory 6 game rule.
if so, this makes the NFL even in a bigger mess.

 

[erod]

The NFL did investigate Brown, the Sheriff wouldn't cooperate with the investigation, the league only knew on ONE event at the time they suspended him...ZEKE has 6 different separate incidents, I explained that already

Zeke and his lawyers failed to comply with the NFL investigation, he spent 6 months refusing to turn over his phone, delaying the investigation...This is the new NFL, and the punishing guidelines has changed, better get used to it, because Damian Wilson will be next to feel that hammer from the NFL

None of that explains the wild inequity in suspension lengths. Goodell is way out of his element trying to play private detective.

Why did Pacman get one game?

 

[erod]

The NFL did investigate Brown, the Sheriff wouldn't cooperate with the investigation, the league only knew on ONE event at the time they suspended him...ZEKE has 6 different separate incidents, I explained that already

Zeke and his lawyers failed to comply with the NFL investigation, he spent 6 months refusing to turn over his phone, delaying the investigation...This is the new NFL, and the punishing guidelines has changed, better get used to it, because Damian Wilson will be next to feel that hammer from the NFL

The league rule is a mandatory 6-game suspension for domestic violence. How did Brown avoid that?

 

[waldoputty]

The league rule is a mandatory 6-game suspension for domestic violence. How did Brown avoid that?

if anyone has mitigating factors, it is zeke and the lying accuser.
policy was instituted in 2014, yet the white player got 1 game.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...six-game-suspension-domestic-violence-policy/

As everyone in and around the NFL awaits word on whether Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott will be suspended over domestic violence allegations, a consensus seems to be emerging that Elliott will get six games, in line with the league’s policy.

One problem: The league policy mandating a six-game suspension for domestic violence has been flouted by the league so many times as to be rendered meaningless. When the NFL announced the policy, it was sold as mandating a six-game suspension, with the possibility of a longer suspension if there were “mitigating factors.” But domestic violence suspensions are often for less than six games, with the NFL never explaining whether any “mitigating factors” contributed to a shorter suspension.

 

[The Quest for Six]

ben was for sexual assault not DV?
deflating balls is not DV.
compare apples-to-apples is all we can do.

is there anything in the 'all-powerful' CBA that prevents NFL from modifying Josh Brown punishment?
i presume not.

i am arguing legal points here and not arguing whether zeke is guilty or not.
that is irrelevant to the legal strategy.

beyond filing with EEOC, i would attack this publicly.
make simple case - just 3 points.
1. accuser lied and falsified evidence
2. white player got 1 game
3. zeke got much more when a) he did not do it as accuser is proven liar and b) white player got 10x less punishment while ADMITTING to his crimes.

sexual assault in a relationship files under DV too, as does hitting a woman, verbal abuse etc... If Zeke wasn't in a relationship, it would file under assault, in a relationship, it's DV, just different filing in the criminal code,

4 games is 4 games????, just stop and think about that for a second, Do you actually think that a 4 game suspension for deflating footballs is equivalent to someone beating up a woman, that punishment should be more don't you think, society thinks so,

1. accuser lied and falsified evidence - conflicting testimony about one incident doesn't dissolve 5 other known incidents
2. white player got 1 game - big ben 6 games, reduced to four, he's white, brown, 1 game, suspension/evidence not known at time of suspension - Zeke, 6 incidents - not comparable
3. zeke got much more when a) he did not do it as accuser is proven liar and b) white player got 10x less punishment while ADMITTING to his crimes.[/QUOTE] Preponderance of evidence, 50.1% (NFLcivil )needed in decision found by four independent individuals concluded he did, I just explained in 1 and 2 decision

 

[The Quest for Six]

The league rule is a mandatory 6-game suspension for domestic violence. How did Brown avoid that?

RULE NOW is 6 games, Zeke, 6 separate incidents known at time of suspension, Brown, 1 incident known at time of suspension.....

 

[waldoputty]

sexual assault in a relationship files under DV too, as does hitting a woman, verbal abuse etc... If Zeke wasn't in a relationship, it would file under assault, in a relationship, it's DV, just different filing in the criminal code,

4 games is 4 games????, just stop and think about that for a second, Do you actually think that a 4 game suspension for deflating footballs is equivalent to someone beating up a woman, that punishment should be more don't you think, society thinks so,

1. accuser lied and falsified evidence - conflicting testimony about one incident doesn't dissolve 5 other known incidents
2. white player got 1 game - big ben 6 games, reduced to four, he's white, brown, 1 game, suspension/evidence not known at time of suspension - Zeke, 6 incidents - not comparable
3. zeke got much more when a) he did not do it as accuser is proven liar and b) white player got 10x less punishment while ADMITTING to his crimes.

Preponderance of evidence, 50.1% (NFLcivil )needed in decision found by four independent individuals concluded he did, I just explained in 1 and 2 decision[/QUOTE]

was ben in a relationship with the woman?
if not, then it is not DV.
apples to apples.

you can try to make it a 50.1% case.
try explaining this to the EEOC when the white player got 1 game and the black player got 6 games.
if you are the NFL, you want to make the case to the EEOC that the NFL's punishment practice is completely arbitrary based on the other infractions???

 

[waldoputty]

RULE NOW is 6 games, Zeke, 6 separate incidents known at time of suspension, Brown, 1 incident known at time of suspension.....

Rule - 6 games.
Brown got 1 game and he is white.
Enough said.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Lets stop making this thing about fairness.

It is about how to win.

Look for the enemy's weak point and kill it.

Zeke's defense was "MAYBE, she fell into table, "MAYBE" she fell down some stairs, "MAYBE she got into a bar fight...........if you want to win, have video evidence of those incidents.

 

[erod]

RULE NOW is 6 games, Zeke, 6 separate incidents known at time of suspension, Brown, 1 incident known at time of suspension.....

The rule was put in place in 2014. Brown admitted to beating his wife 20 times. Zeke's accusations are all hearsay and circumstantial, according to police.

 

[erod]

Zeke's defense was "MAYBE, she fell into table, "MAYBE" she fell down some stairs, "MAYBE she got into a bar fight...........if you want to win, have video evidence of those incidents.

If he didn't do it, how would he possibly know how they happened?

 

[waldoputty]

Zeke's defense was "MAYBE, she fell into table, "MAYBE" she fell down some stairs, "MAYBE she got into a bar fight...........if you want to win, have video evidence of those incidents.

no zeke's defense should be:
1. she has been proven to falsify evidence.
2. nfl needs to prove she did not falsify the other evidence.

 

[waldoputty]

The rule was put in place in 2014. Brown admitted to beating his wife 20 times. Zeke's accusations are all hearsay and circumstantial, according to police.

i dont even know why we are arguing with him.
he obviously wants zeke to be suspended.

the purpose of the thread is if filing equal opportunity is a good legal manuever.
whether he is guilty or not, it is irrelevant.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Preponderance of evidence, 50.1% (NFLcivil )needed in decision found by four independent individuals concluded he did, I just explained in 1 and 2 decision

was ben in a relationship with the woman?
if not, then it is not DV.
apples to apples.

you can try to make it a 50.1% case.
try explaining this to the EEOC when the white player got 1 game and the black player got 6 games.
if you are the NFL, you want to make the case to the EEOC that the NFL's punishment practice is completely arbitrary based on the other infractions???

[/QUOTE]



IT doesn't matter,,,, It's just goes under a different criminal filing...sexual assault in a relationship is the same as sexual assault in DV, it's just a different filing. they're the same...assault is assault whether in a relationship or not, just in a relationship, it is filed under DV, it's still assault!!! .no different than murder, 1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree, manslaughter, different degrees, it's still main title of murder filings....but this case is the NFL, that's civil under the NFL code of conduct, standing..burden of proof is not beyond reasonable doubt......it's more often than not, 50.1% which is what was determined by the four panel that looked at all the evidence and concluded more likely than not that he did it....

 

[waldoputty]

was ben in a relationship with the woman?
if not, then it is not DV.
apples to apples.

you can try to make it a 50.1% case.
try explaining this to the EEOC when the white player got 1 game and the black player got 6 games.
if you are the NFL, you want to make the case to the EEOC that the NFL's punishment practice is completely arbitrary based on the other infractions???

IT doesn't matter,,,, It's just goes under a different criminal filing...sexual assault in a relationship is the same as sexual assault in DV, it's just a different filing. they're the same...assault is assault whether in a relationship or not, just in a relationship, it is filed under DV, it's still assault!!! .no different than murder, 1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree, manslaughter, different degrees, it's still main title of murder filings....but this case is the NFL, that's civil under the NFL code of conduct, standing..burden of proof is not beyond reasonable doubt......it's more often than not, 50.1% which is what was determined by the four panel that looked at all the evidence and concluded more likely than not that he did it....[/QUOTE]


nfl has a domestic violence policy not an assault policy.

rule - 6 games
josh brown - 1 game
did any other black player get 1 game?

 

[The Quest for Six]

nfl has a domestic violence policy not an assault policy.

rule - 6 games
josh brown - 1 game
did any other black player get 1 game?[/QUOTE

I explained Josh Brown, what part don't you comprehend, your argument doesn't hold water, it's not comparable..sequence of events...

If Zeke wasn't in a relationship, and he punched or beat or threw a woman 6 different times, he's receiving six games, because he was in a relationship, he receives the same 6 games, it's no different, it's all under the code of conduct detrimental to the league policy!!