ESPN: How Washington approaches free agency is anyone's guess

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Bob Sacamano;1958309 said:
I didn't want to state the obvious

ok, so I did, but a double obvious is just too much lol


12 pro bowlers...?

Disadvantage.


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I love Commanders fans...us kids are cant even know wat is a vantage when it com to da salad cap!
 

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Skinsmaniac;1958220 said:
Edit: re-reading your post, I guess we do agree that the Skins won't be big players in free agency, but they won't have any trouble re-signing players that they want to or making a couple of FA deals.

Then I guess we're not arguing any more... I'm merely injecting a note of much-needed reality into the Skins' fans speculation that "OMG!!! We're gonna get Chad Johnson and Lance Briggs"... :D
 

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Skinsmaniac;1958274 said:
I'm glad you prefer to have a smaller cap than the Commanders. This gives us a competitive advantage.

Ahhhh, THAT'S why you guys are so much BETTER than we are...

ROTFLMAO...

I'm quite impressed with our ability to go 13-3 and win the NFC East, in spite of the huge competitive advantage the Skins have...

Again, it's common sense time, do take notes:

If the Skins' approach was really sound, other teams would be emulating it... but NOBODY else is doing things that way... so either Danny Boy is a genius, recognizing truths that nobody else in the league can recognize, or he's a fool...

The final proof of that lies in your team's record during the Danny Boy era... a genius, this is not...
 

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silverbear;1958357 said:
Then I guess we're not arguing any more... I'm merely injecting a note of much-needed reality into the Skins' fans speculation that "OMG!!! We're gonna get Chad Johnson and Lance Briggs"... :D

We could get Lance Briggs if our FO wanted to. However, just like last year, we will be prudent this year. Cerrato specifically mentioned that if they acquire players through free agency, it's going to be players that our coaches know(what he said was that the Commanders have been more successful when acquiring players that the coaches already know, like Smoot and London Fletcher). According to him, our needs are a big WR, a versatile O lineman, a DT who's good at rushing the passer, a CB, and safety depth.

P.S. I wouldn't be flaunting the 13-3 record if I were you. You haven't won a playoff game for 12 years. The fact that you crushed opponents in the regular season but got stomped in the playoff makes your team a laughing stock.
 

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silverbear;1958363 said:
The final proof of that lies in your team's record during the Danny Boy era... a genius, this is not...
Considering the Skins' record and the Cowboys' record during his era are substantially the same, this isn't the strongest criticism.

As for why other teams don't emulate the Commanders' approach, it is all a matter of degree. All teams use signing bonuses to lure players, with the understanding that doing so presents a risk. The Skins are merely less risk averse than other teams and pay out bigger bonuses. Another reason why other teams don't do it is cheap owners. Big signing bonuses allow the players to reap investment rewards. Giving players big salaries instead allows the owners to capture the time value of money.
 

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redster;1958367 said:
We could get Lance Briggs if our FO wanted to. However, just like last year, we will be prudent this year. Cerrato specifically mentioned that if they acquire players through free agency, it's going to be players that our coaches know(what he said was that the Commanders have been more successful when acquiring players that the coaches already know, like Smoot and London Fletcher). According to him, our needs are a big WR, a versatile O lineman, a DT who's good at rushing the passer, a CB, and safety depth.

prudent, is that what Gibbs meant when he said he wanted to keep the core Commanders like Antonio Pierce?

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P.S. I wouldn't be flaunting the 13-3 record if I were you. You haven't won a playoff game for 12 years. The fact that you crushed opponents in the regular season but got stomped in the playoff makes your team a laughing stock.

we lost to the Super Bowl champions, barely, in fact we did more to lose that game than they did to win it

****maniac said:
Considering the Skins' record and the Cowboys' record during his era are substantially the same, this isn't the strongest criticism.

As for why other teams don't emulate the Commanders' approach, it is all a matter of degree. All teams use signing bonuses to lure players, with the understanding that doing so presents a risk. The Skins are merely less risk averse than other teams and pay out bigger bonuses. Another reason why other teams don't do it is cheap owners. Big signing bonuses allow the players to reap investment rewards. Giving players big salaries instead allows the owners to capture the time value of money.

wow, the spin cycle is in full effect

need some more Downey w/ that?

no other team is emulating the Skins cap management, or lack thereof, because it's stupid, it's not a grand strategy, it's desperation, that leaves your team w/ a ****ty roster w/ no future, you're not progressing, you're spinning your wheels, yeah, you might win 10 games and a playoff game 1 year, then you will quickly slink to mediocrity for a season, then mildly accomplish something again

your handling of the cap situation has gotten you nowhere, and there's no end in sight
 

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redster;1958367 said:
P.S. I wouldn't be flaunting the 13-3 record if I were you. You haven't won a playoff game for 12 years. The fact that you crushed opponents in the regular season but got stomped in the playoff makes your team a laughing stock.
I wouldn't use the word "stomped" to describe our loss to the eventual Super Bowl champions. Especially since most of that loss was self inflicted.
 

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Bob Sacamano;1958375 said:
no other team is emulating the Skins cap management, or lack thereof, because it's stupid, it's not a grand strategy, it's desperation, that leaves your team w/ a ****ty roster w/ no future, you're not progressing
You are just demonstrating your financial illiteracy. There's nothing inherently wrong about redoing contracts. It just means borrowing against future caps (which are larger every year) to pay players now. This means that every year our cap is larger than yours. If you actually have a concrete criticism of the Skins cap methods, backed up by some basic comprehension of math above the first grade level, I'd love to hear it.
 

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Skinsmaniac;1958381 said:
You are just demonstrating your financial illiteracy. There's nothing inherently wrong about redoing contracts. It just means borrowing against future caps (which are larger every year) to pay players now. This means that every year our cap is larger than yours. If you actually have a concrete criticism of the Skins cap methods, backed up by some basic comprehension of math above the first grade level, I'd love to hear it.

no, ****smaniac, the only thing wrong here is you trying to spin the Skin's cap situation

here's concrete criticism

your roster is the exact opposite of our's
 

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Skinsmaniac;1958381 said:
You are just demonstrating your financial illiteracy. There's nothing inherently wrong about redoing contracts. It just means borrowing against future caps (which are larger every year) to pay players now. This means that every year our cap is larger than yours. If you actually have a concrete criticism of the Skins cap methods, backed up by some basic comprehension of math above the first grade level, I'd love to hear it.

If you are so secure with yourself and your team why do you spend so much time on our site enamored with anything and everything Cowboys?
 

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Still nobody to explain how cutting a free agent brunell helps the skins?


On a more serious note, if you guys need anymore help learning about your team let me know :)
 

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BigDFan5;1958430 said:
Still nobody to explain how cutting a free agent brunell helps the skins?


On a more serious note, if you guys need anymore help learning about your team let me know :)
You're right - Brunell is a FA. I never claimed otherwise. However, it's not hard for Skins fans to be confused about his situation when the media reports it incorrectly, like ESPN just yesterday:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3247587
 

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Skinsmaniac;1958435 said:
You're right - Brunell is a FA. I never claimed otherwise. However, it's not hard for Skins fans to be confused about his situation when the media reports it incorrectly, like ESPN just yesterday:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3247587


My post was mainly meant for the Skins fan who was just making **** up so he didnt appear to be so wrong.

As for ESPN, I dont need them to tell me about my own team. I mean damn man it was on the Commanders website, as well as front page at ES :laugh1:
 

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ESPN: How Washington approaches free agency is anyone's guess



They put some BIG NAME Free Agents names in a hat and pick and then roll the truck up to their house.

Its not frickin Rocket science

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Skinsmaniac;1958381 said:
You are just demonstrating your financial illiteracy.
You tell em.

It only becomes a problem if we don't keep that player.
 

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redster;1958367 said:
We could get Lance Briggs if our FO wanted to. However, just like last year, we will be prudent this year.

And just like last year, you'll only be "prudent" because you HAVE to be...

P.S. I wouldn't be flaunting the 13-3 record if I were you.

As long as some braindead fan of a 9-7 team wants to talk trash about my team, I'll "flaunt" it... if and when your team's better, then maybe you'll have something to say about it that I'll care to listen to...

The fact that you crushed opponents in the regular season but got stomped in the playoff makes your team a laughing stock.

And yet, the rest of the league is currently laughing at the dysfunctional family that is the Washington Commanders...
 

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Skinsmaniac;1958369 said:
Considering the Skins' record and the Cowboys' record during his era are substantially the same, this isn't the strongest criticism.

Except I freely admit that until 2 or 3 years ago, the Cowboys weren't doing things the right way... they are now, which is why they're improving at a fairly brisk clip...

Besides, are you suggesting that your only goal as a Skins fan is to have a team as good as the Dallas Cowboys?? I would have thought that your kind would still have Super Bowls as their ultimate goal... LOL...

As for why other teams don't emulate the Commanders' approach, it is all a matter of degree.

No other team in the league spends more money on mediocre free agents than the Skins do... no other team in the league trades away draft picks as if they're radioactive the way the Skins do... no other team in the league was so "generous" with their past deals that they started this offseason 20 million over the salary cap...

No other team in the league does things the way the Skins do it, period...

Another reason why other teams don't do it is cheap owners.

Some owners are cheap, a lot of 'em aren't... but NONE of them does things the way Danny Boy does...
 
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