ESPN Insider: Polling NFL execs: Would you rather have Wentz or Prescott?

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Using the argument he was drafted higher for a reason isn't relevant after the draft. The draft never ends being the best players taken in correct order. Just look at Brady, Romo & Dak.

Anyway, fun to speculate now, but really no way of knowing who will better in long run.
 

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After reading what the 'V'-MANS input was in the o.p. I skipped all the whole 9 pages of ,,, I'm sure,,, fantastic reads put forth from my esteemed/equal fans of our team!,,,as I caught this breaking tidbit on a sports boy radio station as breaking news,therefor and in conclusion:. "YEA TEAM!"

((what do those half dozen set of shriveled nads know anyway?))
 

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I think anybody with a functioning brain to dress themselves in the morning pretty much realize Wentz is playing with slop. No #1 RB, no #1 WR, no #1 TE and now an OL missing their best player.

What the NFL world is saying is Wentz is the superior player and they are correct. I'd say it no matter what uniform they wore. Whereas you wouldn't.
But you're using the same eyes that were so wrong about Dak so no one really buys anything you're saying. Everyone can read what you posted about it and can understand that your denial is simply a lame attempt at excusing your shot blowing up in your face.
 

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Come on, man. Would you trade our offense for Philly's minus the QB. The answer is hell no(!) and we don't need to pretend otherwise to make a point. Dak is in a MUCH better situation.

Put both teams players in a pot, and Dallas has the top 5 players - Smith, Martin, Freddy, Dez, Zeke.
Way to over react. Never said we didn't have a better offense. I'm saying the recievers are a wash but they have made some tough catches. Zeke is clearly better but Sproles and Matthews have made plays including both averaging over 10 yards a carry in a game that Wentz lost cause he threw a pick which was a terrible decision and throw.
 

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Wentz played ball at North Dakota State. He wasn't drafted for the first 6 games of his career. He was drafted for his upside - an upside that Dak simply doesn't have.

The correct answer is Wentz, which is why all 6 of the guys who are, or have been paid to made these call, said Wentz. If rolls were reversed, and we traded up for Wentz and Philly landed Dak late, you'd agree with us.

I don't buy for a second that Wentz's upside is any higher than Dak's. Wentz was drafted where he was, not for his upside, but for his readiness to play relative to the rest of the candidates. Sure, he's got great physical tools, but upside entails a lot more than physical tools. The trajectory Dak's been on going back to his senior year in college is second to none.

We've seen Dak elevate bad teams in college. We've seen him outperform Wentz with a good team in the pros. If you want to say you think Wentz is still the better player based off of things we haven't seen yet, that's fine, but I"ll believe it when I see it.

In the meantime, the fact that 6 NFL 'execs' are sticking with a guy they had rated at the tops of their boards over a guy they had rated in the middle of their boards isn't really all that surprising. Especially since Wentz has played fairly well. But i'm pretty confident saying if the roles were reversed, I'd say we overspent for a QB prospect when there were similar players at the position still available. Or, basically the same thing I'm saying now about the Elliott pick.
 

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I think Dak has SLIGHTLY outplayed Wentz. But even if you wanted to say their play has been even, look at the VALUE. By all means, Dak is way better value. Wentz should be doing what he's doing
 

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And then when he when he wins and plays better than Carson without two of those guys you'll come back and admit that you were wrong? Shouldn't be long now.

We'd still have the much better offense and the 3 best offensive players in the field. Let's not be silly.
 

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Dak has outperformed Wentz in pretty much every aspect of the game that you can actually measure or quantify. This leaves the Wentz jock strap carriers to resort to the "eye test", or BS phrases like "upside".

"Upside" is my favorite, because even if the guy never pans out, you can still claim he had the upside, but that it was never realized for X or Y reason.
 

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Dak doesn't have a number 1 reciever, has missed 2 of his OL but yet still out producing Wentz.

Sproles and Matthews have played very well for Philly and have averaged 10 plus yards a carry in some games this season. Wentz accuracy has been terrible and without his running backs and recievers catching balls high and almost in the dirt Wentz would have less interceptions. His recievers have made some very tough catches for Wentz.

Not only that Philly had a better team then Dallas. Dak was 3rd string taking over a 4-12 team that was 1-11 without Romo. Wentz has won games because of special teams and defense scoring. Dak hasn't had the defense or special teams score.

Doesn't matter the uniform they are wearing Dak has played better then Wentz but because your love fest of Wentz and hate for Dak you can't say it. You will go down with wentz before saying you were wrong.

I feel the need to pin this to my refrigerator.

Go Cowboys, bro.
 

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I don't buy for a second that Wentz's upside is any higher than Dak's. Wentz was drafted where he was, not for his upside, but for his readiness to play relative to the rest of the candidates.

:facepalm:

They flat out said he was going to redshirt for a season. And no - it wasn't his pro-readiness. The kid was playing football at North Dakota State. He wasn't drafted for how well he would play as a rookie. Though, he's outpaced expectations by a good deal.

You go ahead and keep waiting to see upside before you believe it. Kind of a funny stance on potential though.
 

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It's too early to say. I don't care where someone was drafted. Every team missed on Tom Brady six times except the Patriots and he's been to the SB six times, more than any other QB in history.

If all the measurables are close and there isn't much of a difference, you take the one who gives you the intangibles, and those you can't judge until the players are in games that really matter, and neither of these players have been there yet.

I haven't seen Wentz play much so I can't really speak to his ability or his presence. I've seen Dak play and he has impressed me with his accuracy, poise, presence, game management, and security with the ball, especially for a rookie.
 

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:facepalm:

They flat out said he was going to redshirt for a season. And no - it wasn't his pro-readiness. The kid was playing football at North Dakota State. He wasn't drafted for how well he would play as a rookie. Though, he's outpaced expectations by a good deal.

You go ahead and keep waiting to see upside before you believe it. Kind of a funny stance on potential though.

That wasn't even worth responding to. That's someone just talking out of his backside. A North Dakota St. guy drafted at the top for his "readiness to play". Sounds good to anyone without the slightest clue about the draft.
 
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