ESPN: Jason Pierre-Paul: Unsure of future

[jobberone]

I dont remember anyone upset about not landing mario williams, and dont remember jerry doing everything to get him here either

Explain to us how he was going to sign Mario Williams under the current cap rules.

 

[joseephuss]

Yeah but our guys have zero talent.

It doesn't have to come down to the guys already in Dallas and JPP. There are other options. Guys that have both some talent and heart.

 

[CCBoy]

So it doesn't matter about answering your question which proved you wrong. You'll just move the goal posts and declare victory. First, your premise is called mind reading. You are predicting the future to fit your agenda. A cognitive distortion. Second, is you have set up a straw man after the fact.

A straw man...another Wizard of Oz reference...

But the Cowboys seem to have given up pursuing that final and over-the-top player...presumably for Lent.

 

[jobberone]

A straw man...another Wizard of Oz reference...

Not really. It's a form of distraction and deflection from the actual topic.

 

[CCBoy]

Not really. It's a form of distraction and deflection from the actual topic.

My comment was all humor...but that can also be put on the non-wanted pile.

 

[xwalker]

Dallas wont be signing any big fa's this offseason unless they dont resign dez. Only way to build the defense is through the draft.

Based on what...

They can easily manipulate the cap to make it work. There might be ramifications in the future, but they can easily sign free agents if they want to go that route.

 

[CCBoy]

Based on what...

They can easily manipulate the cap to make it work. There might be ramifications in the future, but they can easily sign free agents if they want to go that route.

Agreed, X. At the very least, the Dallas cap status is once again fully workable in projecting. Hooooah!

 

[StarBoyz83]

Based on what...

They can easily manipulate the cap to make it work. There might be ramifications in the future, but they can easily sign free agents if they want to go that route.

I dont know about easily but they might be able to sign one maybe 2 If they sacrifice the future. Im totally ok with that though. You go all in while romo can still play I say.

 

[ccb04]

He's certainly worth investigating.

Jabaal Sheard actually played 4-3 LDE with the Browns during his first two seasons.

He moved to 3-4 ROLB in 2013 and has played on both sides this season.



I'd rather go after other DE options, but if Brian Orakpo will sign a "prove it" contract similar to Henry Melton's, it'd be a good signing.

Some team will probably offer up more up front money than we can stomach.

Yep...my mistake. As a rookie he actually spent most of the camps they had & their first regular season game at RDE (with the offseason being shortened by the lockout)...then moved to LDE in week 2. And as you mentioned, he played ROLB in the 3-4 in 2013...where he had 5.5 sacks despite making the transition, missing 3 games, switching sides, and rotating with Mingo (their 2013 1st rd. pick).

What's impressive about his rookie season is that the lockout happened so he lost valuable offseason time as all rookies did, there were really no solid vet DE's on the roster to help him, and he shifted from right to left...yet he had 55 tackles, 8.5 sacks, & 5 forced fumbles.

I think that Sheard could play either side in Marinelli's system. But LDE is of course an area of need if they wanted to play him there...particularly given the lack of production, the fact that Selvie & Spencer are impending UFA's, etc.

Agreed about Orakpo...would rather go after other options as well. But as you mentioned, a 'prove it' deal similar to Melton's could be a good signing.

Excluding resigning any of the UFA's (Selvie, Spencer, Hayden), picking up Melton's option, or any draft additions...with adding Sheard, the DL could look like.....

LDE: Sheard, Ben Gardner, Lavar Edwards, Jack Crawford
DT1: Brent, Bishop, T. McClain, Okoye
DT3: Crawford, Coleman, T. McClain, Okoye, Chris Whaley, Jack Crawford
RDE: Lawrence, Mincey, Boatright

 

[waving monkey]

So it doesn't matter about answering your question which proved you wrong. You'll just move the goal posts and declare victory. First, your premise is called mind reading. You are predicting the future to fit your agenda. A cognitive distortion. Second, is you have set up a straw man after the fact.

jobberone your logical criticism brings clarity to this monkey bidness

 

[jobberone]

jobberone your logical criticism brings clarity to this monkey bidness

We monkeys know our bidness. Right?!

 

[acer941]

Yep...my mistake. As a rookie he actually spent most of the camps they had & their first regular season game at RDE (with the offseason being shortened by the lockout)...then moved to LDE in week 2. And as you mentioned, he played ROLB in the 3-4 in 2013...where he had 5.5 sacks despite making the transition, missing 3 games, switching sides, and rotating with Mingo (their 2013 1st rd. pick).

What's impressive about his rookie season is that the lockout happened so he lost valuable offseason time as all rookies did, there were really no solid vet DE's on the roster to help him, and he shifted from right to left...yet he had 55 tackles, 8.5 sacks, & 5 forced fumbles.

I think that Sheard could play either side in Marinelli's system. But LDE is of course an area of need if they wanted to play him there...particularly given the lack of production, the fact that Selvie & Spencer are impending UFA's, etc.

Agreed about Orakpo...would rather go after other options as well. But as you mentioned, a 'prove it' deal similar to Melton's could be a good signing.

Excluding resigning any of the UFA's (Selvie, Spencer, Hayden), picking up Melton's option, or any draft additions...with adding Sheard, the DL could look like.....

LDE: Sheard, Ben Gardner, Lavar Edwards, Jack Crawford
DT1: Brent, Bishop, T. McClain, Okoye
DT3: Crawford, Coleman, T. McClain, Okoye, Chris Whaley, Jack Crawford
RDE: Lawrence, Mincey, Boatright

I like Sheard at 4yrs 26.77mil 15 guaranteed. With Suh at 6yrs 70mil 35 guaranteed.

Think that would be manageable with also Re-signing McClain, Dez, Parnell, and cutting Car and Melton?

 

[PBCCowboy]

nobody in this draft at DE can hold his jock.

A lot of people said Anthony Hitchens could not play either...

 

[xwalker]

I dont know about easily but they might be able to sign one maybe 2 If they sacrifice the future. Im totally ok with that though. You go all in while romo can still play I say.

Easy if you only consider the 2015 cap. They could sign and re-sign all kinds of players and fit it into the 2015 cap if they wanted to restructure the top 10 contracts on the team.

 

[jobberone]

Easy if you only consider the 2015 cap. They could sign and re-sign all kinds of players and fit it into the 2015 cap if they wanted to restructure the top 10 contracts on the team.

Yes they can restructure and sign 1 maybe 2 premiun FAs and that's about it. They still have our own to sign. We've created this problem with signing people without fear of the consequences and have created problems with it. I'd like to do that as little as possible. Best go a different route.

 

[LatinMind]

A lot of people said Anthony Hitchens could not play either...

like who? I doubt anybody on this forum knew who he was.

 

[SportsGuru80]

Only 25 years old...

 

[LatinMind]

Yes they can restructure and sign 1 maybe 2 premiun FAs and that's about it. They still have our own to sign. We've created this problem with signing people without fear of the consequences and have created problems with it. I'd like to do that as little as possible. Best go a different route.

Theres no need to restructure much. Meltons 8.4mil, Frees 7mil, and given tyrons deal length10.3 mil can be restructured. projected cap is between 138 and 141 mil, but most think it will be a little higher than the 141. Lets say 143. With just these 3 moves Dallas would be 28.563 mil under the cap. Then adjust Dallas rollover cap they will basically have 30mil of cap to use for their FAs they want to resign and FA. Dallas has 1 big FA to sign and the next biggest will be free which will be around 4-6mil yearly if they resign him. The rest are role players. Dallas would have the ability to sign a couple bigger named FAs they couldnt last yr.

Not to mention the guys Dallas will be cutting guys like Weeden, Dekota, and so forth. All these guys add up

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

I think you make a hard play at Suh or JPP. We don't have time to mess around. Our window is now and if we can immediately improve our pass rush with a free agent and then draft young talent for that side of the ball as well? We'll be in good shape. We just can't wait around to see who pans out though. We have to move forward thinking that the next 3 years or so is our window with Romo.

 

[adbutcher]

It doesn't have to come down to the guys already in Dallas and JPP. There are other options. Guys that have both some talent and heart.

I would love to have JPP but I would also be glad to get Hardy at a discounted price.