ESPN MacMahon: Witten on Skins: 'This is the Super Bowl for them'

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WoodysGirl;3084826 said:
"We know this is the Super Bowl for them," tight end Jason Witten said. "That's the type of mentality they have."

I really can't hate Witten for this one...I think a lot of fans are making a bigger deal out of this then it really is.
 

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hendog;3085978 said:
Why anyone would troll another teams message boards is beyond me. But then again if I was a skins fan I'd probably spend more time on opposing teams boards then I would the skins.

BTW - it shouln't be to hard to figure out if someone has registered and how many posts they have. Just like you have 1200 posts on our board in the last 2 yrs and I have 0 on yours.

That's why Witten said what he did. We are the skins and their fans supebowl and idiotic trolls like you and the rest prove it every year.

I love the This-isn't-a-Rivalry-to-me-and-I-will-post-ad-nauseum-to-tell-you-how-little-it-means-to-me Posts...
 

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Skinsmaniac;3086280 said:
I got them mixed up. I've edited it to change them around.
Nice. That's still incorrect.

Witten stated that Washington's perspective of this particular matchup is higher than either a regular season game or a playoff game. He makes a very transparent assertion that the Commanders will play this game with the intensity indicative of Super Bowl opponents typically facing off in... (wait for it)... the Super Bowl. In my opinion, he is correct.

If this is a true assertion (and I have zero doubt that it isn't), it would be in Dallas' best interest to play at or above the anticipated intensity of Washington's. In today's NFL, even the best of teams can stumble against the worst.

Dallas isn't the best in the league. Washington isn't the worst. Still, there is a definable difference between both teams which cannot be ignored. It is that difference which Witten was referring to and it's inherent importance in the upcoming game.
 

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DallasEast;3086303 said:
Nice. That's still incorrect.

Witten stated that Washington's perspective of this particular matchup is higher than either a regular season game or a playoff game. He makes a very transparent assertion that the Commanders will play this game with the intensity indicative of Super Bowl opponents typically facing off in... (wait for it)... the Super Bowl. In my opinion, he is correct.

If this is a true assertion (and I have zero doubt that it isn't), it would be in Dallas' best interest to play at or above the anticipated intensity of Washington's. In today's NFL, even the best of teams can stumble against the worst.

Dallas isn't the best in the league. Washington isn't the worst. Still, there is a definable difference between both teams which cannot be ignored. It is that difference which Witten was referring to and it's inherent importance in the upcoming game.

This is pretty accurate, in my opinion. If Dallas is going to make a playoff push, this is a game they have to win (and probably will.)

While last week was nice, and it would be nice for my beloved Skins to pull the upset, ultimately, it makes little difference. They are playing for a draft pick right now. They are playing for Russell Okung (hopefully!)
 

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DallasEast;3086303 said:
Nice. That's still incorrect.

Witten stated that Washington's perspective of this particular matchup is higher than either a regular season game or a playoff game. He makes a very transparent assertion that the Commanders will play this game with the intensity indicative of Super Bowl opponents typically facing off in... (wait for it)... the Super Bowl. In my opinion, he is correct.
By stating that this is Washington's Super Bowl, he was also saying that this is not Dallas's Super Bowl, thus alluding to the fact that Dallas has bigger things to worry about.
 

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Skinsmaniac;3086405 said:
By stating that this is Washington's Super Bowl, he was also saying that this is not Dallas's Super Bowl, thus alluding to the fact that Dallas has bigger things to worry about.

Honestly, the best you guys have to hope for realistically at this point is a sweep of Dallas for 2009. We're leading the division and positioning ourselves for another playoff run. That's pretty hard to dispute, isn't it?
 

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Idgit;3086412 said:
Honestly, the best you guys have to hope for realistically at this point is a sweep of Dallas for 2009. We're leading the division and positioning ourselves for another playoff run. That's pretty hard to dispute, isn't it?

Yes it is.
 

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Skinsmaniac;3086415 said:
Yes it is.

Hope that eats you up inside. :)

Realistically, I'd feel the same way if the situation were reversed: just sweep WAS and take them out of the division race.
 

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Skinsmaniac;3086405 said:
By stating that this is Washington's Super Bowl, he was also saying that this is not Dallas's Super Bowl, thus alluding to the fact that Dallas has bigger things to worry about.
Witten was not alluding to anything. What he said was (and still is) crystal clear.
 

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DallasEast;3086423 said:
Witten was not alluding to anything. What he said was (and still is) crystal clear.

So Witten was saying that this is also the Cowboys' Super Bowl? If not, then he was saying that this is more important to the Commanders than the Cowboys which is exactly the attitude that his quote from April is criticizing.
 

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Skinsmaniac;3086426 said:
So Witten was saying that this is also the Cowboys' Super Bowl? If not, then he was saying that this is more important to the Commanders than the Cowboys which is exactly the attitude that his quote from April is criticizing.

This is the foreskins Super Bowl because the fact that you are playing The Dallas Cowboys you will get some TV ratings and some national exposure. (like a Super Bowl) Otherwise nobody gives a rats *** or will watch the foreskins try their best to attempt to the game of football.
 

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Skinsmaniac;3086426 said:
So Witten was saying that this is also the Cowboys' Super Bowl?
Of course not.
Skinsmaniac;3086426 said:
If not, then he was saying that this is more important to the Commanders than the Cowboys which is exactly the attitude that his quote from April is criticizing.
That still doesn't make a lick of sense UNLESS you are saying that Witten's quote applies only to the Commanders. Or in paraphrasing his quote to match your implication:

"We (the Commanders) need to stop talking about the playoffs and Super Bowls and just become a better football team."

Of course (again), that doesn't make any sense still since presently, Washington doesn't see playoffs in their immediate future, much less the possibility of playing in a Super Bowl.
 

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BigD;3086437 said:
This is the foreskins Super Bowl because the fact that you are playing The Dallas Cowboys you will get some TV ratings and some national exposure. (like a Super Bowl) Otherwise nobody gives a rats *** or will watch the foreskins try their best to attempt to the game of football.
I couldn't care less about TV ratings or national exposure.
 

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Idgit;3086421 said:
Hope that eats you up inside. :)

Realistically, I'd feel the same way if the situation were reversed: just sweep WAS and take them out of the division race.

If the Skins were actually good, and had a competent front office running the show it sure would. But we have enough issues of our own to worry about...

I still hope the Cowboys are just mediocre enough to keep Phillips and Garrett :)
 

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Skinsmaniac;3086426 said:
So Witten was saying that this is also the Cowboys' Super Bowl? If not, then he was saying that this is more important to the Commanders than the Cowboys which is exactly the attitude that his quote from April is criticizing.

it is more important to the Skins, it's important to the Cowboys in the same way every other game is but for the Skins beating Dallas you're most bitter rival is about the only thing you have left this season. "Dallas week" for the Skins is different you know this just as well as we do, if not better.
 

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DallasEast;3086447 said:
Of course not.
That still doesn't make a lick of sense UNLESS you are saying that Witten's quote applies only to the Commanders. Or in paraphrasing his quote to match your implication:

"We (the Commanders) need to stop talking about the playoffs and Super Bowls and just become a better football team."

Of course (again), that doesn't make any sense still since presently, Washington doesn't see playoffs in their immediate future, much less the possibility of playing in a Super Bowl.
I hope you don't need a grasp of logic in your job. Let's break this down into bite-size pieces for you.

"We need to stop talking about the playoffs and Super Bowls and just become a better football team."

Why did Witten say that? Because the Cowboys' expectations had been too high, and that impacted how they prepared for and played regular season games.

"This is their Super Bowl."

From that you can infer "This is not our Super Bowl."

From that you can infer "We have more important games to play." (What games? The playoffs and Super Bowl).

And from that you can see that Witten is "talking about the playoffs and Super Bowl." Now knowing his reputation, he is probably working just as hard to prepare for this game as he does any game, but that doesn't change the fact that he his alluding to the Cowboy's pursuit of a Super Bowl - the exact kind of talking he criticized earlier.
 

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Skinsmaniac;3086463 said:
...From that you can infer "This is not our Super Bowl."

From that you can infer "We have more important games to play." (What games? The playoffs and Super Bowl).

And from that you can see that Witten is "talking about the playoffs and Super Bowl." Now knowing his reputation, he is probably working just as hard to prepare for this game as he does any game, but that doesn't change the fact that he his alluding to the Cowboy's pursuit of a Super Bowl - the exact kind of talking he criticized earlier.

There's where you're falling down. You can't logically infer that he believes 'this is not our Superbowl' You can't infer anything about his take on Cowboys expectation for this game from what he says about the Sk*ns expectations. There's nothing to infer because those two notions aren't logically related.

He could just as easily think 'we have to treat this game like our Superbowl precisely because the other guys are doing so' and you'd have no way of proving or disproving either notion based on his statements or the data available.
 

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Skinsmaniac;3086463 said:
I hope you don't need a grasp of logic in your job. Let's break this down into bite-size pieces for you.

"We need to stop talking about the playoffs and Super Bowls and just become a better football team."

Why did Witten say that? Because the Cowboys' expectations had been too high, and that impacted how they prepared for and played regular season games.

"This is their Super Bowl."

From that you can infer "This is not our Super Bowl."

From that you can infer "We have more important games to play." (What games? The playoffs and Super Bowl).

And from that you can see that Witten is "talking about the playoffs and Super Bowl." Now knowing his reputation, he is probably working just as hard to prepare for this game as he does any game, but that doesn't change the fact that he his alluding to the Cowboy's pursuit of a Super Bowl - the exact kind of talking he criticized earlier.



You Skin fans do alot of inferring, huh?

Well, I infer that after your next loss we won't see you fools again until you win another game.

Like roaches, you only come out when you think it's safe.

Infer that...


:dissskin: (good dog, Gibbs! Piss on those Commanders)
 

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Idgit;3086480 said:
There's where you're falling down. You can't logically infer that he believes 'this is not our Superbowl' You can't infer anything about his take on Cowboys expectation for this game from what he says about the Sk*ns expectations. There's nothing to infer because those two notions aren't logically related.

He could just as easily think 'we have to treat this game like our Superbowl precisely because the other guys are doing so' and you'd have no way of proving or disproving either notion based on his statements or the data available.

We don't have the whole quote so it's hard to tell, but usually if that was what Witten meant, he'd say "This is their Super Bowl, so we need to play like that too," or something to that effect. Otherwise, I think my inference is more likely. It's totally possible that the reporter cut out the rest of Witten's quote to stir things up though. I'm merely stating that as we have it, the second quote is hypocritical.
 
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