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Discussion in 'Overtime Zone' started by jobberone, Nov 6, 2015.

  1. Kaiser

    Kaiser Well-Known Member

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    I didn't forget it but I didn't mention it because there is no proof whatsoever that it happened and Hardy's side denies it happened. They cooperated with the NFL investigation and said it didn't happened. The only reason people talk about a civil settlement is because the DA in a high profile case dropped this case (which never should have been brought) and said they THOUGHT there was a payoff without offering any proof. Its the typical political butt-covering that DA's do all the time. And after the Duke Rape Case, people have every right to question the political motivations of DAs in North Carolina.

    Even if there was a civil settlement, reaching a settlement to avoid a Civil Trial has nothing to do the criminal prosecution of the crime. It just means the person agrees not to file a civil suit in the same matter. Most defense attorneys recommend offering a low amount as a civil settlement because its cheaper than the half million dollars it would take in legal fees to go through a civil trial.

    But I'm sure you knew all that....
     
  2. CliffnDallas

    CliffnDallas Well-Known Member

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  3. CliffnDallas

    CliffnDallas Well-Known Member

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    As long as he gets sacks. I don't care if he beats up the Pope.
     
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  4. CanadianCowboysFan

    CanadianCowboysFan Lightning Rod

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    no, remember the old adage, it is never appropriate to hit a woman
     
  5. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    Never for one second in this whole thing did I ever think that Holder did not have bruises. We knew all along there were pics of her bruises. It boggles the mind that some bruises on her in pictures is enough to spark all of this new faux outrage, including calls for Dallas to cut him.

    It is insane.

    I had a girl go nuts on me one time and she ended up with bruising all over her arms simply because I was covering my head with my arms and she bruised herself when she was swinging at me.

    Bruises prove very little.

    She also pulled wads of her own hair out (and some from my head as well), imagine if those pics showed some bald spots on Holder's head. Everyone would be saying Hardy was dragging her by her hair and asking for him to be kicked out of the NFL.
     
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  6. PA Cowboy Fan

    PA Cowboy Fan Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, I'll root for his sacks. But that's all I'm going to do. Don't want him here but I'll put up with him. What drives me crazy is the insane defense of the man. If Vick was here I'd root for him to get injured. I know that. I can't stand him.
     
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  7. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    It's the Ray Rice incident all over. I've heard many state his punishment was so severe because there was a video of it. Why should that matter? Either you committed a crime or you didn't. A video is evidence, sure...but if you can prove someone's guilt with or without the video it should become irrelevant to his punishment. Who didn't know watching a man lay out a woman like that was hard to watch? Does the next guy who knocks out his wife but isn't caught on camera get less?

    All this stuff should be handled by the courts and not any separate investigation by the league. A lot of people read that and think I support criminals playing in the league. I do not. I just want the courts to take care of them so they aren't an option for a football team to sign. But the Dallas Cowboys, IMO, did nothing wrong, made no horrible stance against women by signing Greg Hardy. He was an available football player with a lot of proven ability. The Cowboys are a football team trying to win games. If it turns out the guy shouldn't be free in society at that time, shame on the courts and not on the Cowboys. I'd do what they did every time. It is not their responsibility to be the instant replay for our judiciary system.
     
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  8. FLCowboyFan

    FLCowboyFan Hoping to be half the man Tom Landry was.

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    I agree that I was expecting far worse. They were drunk off their butt's and had done cocaine so I'm not sure they even know what actually happened. The article says they drank at least 5 bottles of champaign in addition to the drugs. I'm hoping that they have people keeping him from hurting himself and others.

    The guy obviously has anger issues and doesn't make the best decisions so if he stays past this year he needs support to keep out of trouble.
     
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  9. Proximo

    Proximo Well-Known Member

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    Strongly agree with your ENTIRE post but ESPECIALLY this part.

    The "outrage" towards Jerry and the Cowboys regarding Hardy is absurd.

    Here, have a "like". Enjoy.
     
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  10. kevm3

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    Hardy was out a whole season last year and 4 games this year. They went to court and the victim didn't show. What else needs to be done?
     
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  11. StarOfGlory

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    Hardy is lucky he didn't do this in New Jersey. They could try him based on the evidence without the girl friend testifying. Of course, Jerrah would call up his buddy and Cowboy fan Chris Christie and "ask" the guv to take of things.

    I lived through the Vick controversy up here. The press didn't let up on Vick (Headline: "Hide Your Beagle, Vick's an Eagle"). Even though Vick served almost two years in a federal penitentiary, there were people who wanted to skin him alive. Greg Hardy, by all accounts, beat a human and will serve no time at all. He should consider himself lucky, show some contrition, and shut the heck up and play football.

    As for all the people bending over backwards to defend him or justify his being on the Cowboys....I see a lot of hypocrites who vilified Vick but seem willing to give a woman beater a pass. NO man needs to lay his hands on a woman unless the situation is extraordinary. I don't see this as one of those situations.
     
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  12. Sportsbabe

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    All this time I thought you were a woman....with all that ASSet
     
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  13. Bleu Star

    Bleu Star Bye Felicia!

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    Lol!
     
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  14. Bleu Star

    Bleu Star Bye Felicia!

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    That's the ASSet of my favorite South American media member Ines Sainz.

    Her Google image search is just a heavenly place to scroll.
     
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  15. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Moderator

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    Loved this reply:

    There is no proof whatsoever that it happened and Hardy's side denies it happened. They cooperated with the NFL investigation and said it didn't happened
     
  16. Dave_in-NC

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    :laugh:
     
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  17. bkeavs

    bkeavs Well-Known Member

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    I agree whole heartedly with your opinion on this. I just think it's laughable that since Garret has been here, all we have heard it RKG.
    I don't care RKG or any other type of player. I just want to win

    I just think it's humorous that most fans here believed in the RKG Stuff early on and how the RKG mantra has evolved or devolved into guys like Hardy

    RKG was BS rhetoric from day one

    It's all about winning to Jerry and Co
     
  18. Nightman

    Nightman Capologist

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    Again I don't think RKG ever had to do with off field trouble.

    They are guys that love football, put the team first, will play multiple positions and special teams, will play thru injuries. They can be Team Captains, Boy Scout types but they have to be.
     
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  19. Rogah

    Rogah Benched

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    The punishment (the second time around) was so severe because of all the public outrage.

    The public was outraged because of the video of the incident.

    So yes, the video led to the severity of the punishment. No video, and there's no endless 24-hour loop of the event on all 4 ESPN network and no whipping the public into a frenzy. There's no Goodell press conference carried live on literally every single TV station in the country. It would have been just another "An NFL star got arrested for domestic violence, but charges were dropped" story like countless others before.
     
  20. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    The DA in Hardy's case could have continue with the trail. There was no law requiring the girls to testify. They dropped the case because they knew that could not win.

    Vick's crimes were proven and he was found guilty in court. His crimes very done with malicious intent. Even if Hardy did do something it would likely have been an emotional reaction where he shoved her and not a deliberate plan that took place over years.
     
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