ESPN Werder: Cowboys hesitant to make tough calls; Others can do it; why not Cowboys?

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Arch Stanton;3026940 said:
I think I may have missed something here. Would you expand on this comment as I am intrigued?

Roy Williams got chucked about 15 yards downfield by Champ Bailey. It interrupted his route for a split second and the pass was right on if it didn't happen. No flag though.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3026950 said:
That's what's so stupid about it. Apparently, he thinks Roy should be benched because he hasn't "met expectations".

If everyone who failed to meet "expectations" got benched in this league, the games would look like the XFL.

If Ed really wanted to argue this, he should've asked why Barbie Carp is still on the team. But claiming you should play an inferior player like Crayton over Roy ruins his whole argument.

This is exactly why I asked yesterday if anyone really thought Crayton was a better player than Roy.

Crayton is absolutely NOT bettter than RW. I would like for someone to come in and argue that he is.

RW does a LOT more than Crayton. Roy Williams blows people up while run blocking.

I wish he would do more at his position though, but Im patient. I think it will come around.

A lot of this is Romo still not being comfortable w/ RW. I have no idea if that will ever change. I just dont understand it.

Throw him the GD ball Tony.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3026950 said:
That's what's so stupid about it. Apparently, he thinks Roy should be benched because he hasn't "met expectations".

If everyone who failed to meet "expectations" got benched in this league, the games would look like the XFL.

If Ed really wanted to argue this, he should've asked why Barbie Carp is still on the team. But claiming you should play an inferior player like Crayton over Roy ruins his whole argument.

This is exactly why I asked yesterday if anyone really thought Crayton was a better player than Roy.

Exactly. Its why I thought this article had potential reading the title. But then he goes on about Roy Williams. He can look at the stats on ESPN.com to tell whether or not Roy or Crayton should be benched. I was for sure this thread was going to be about someone like Hamlin who's underachieved. But he spent his focus on Roy Williams? This is why no one likes his garbage.
 

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Arch Stanton;3026940 said:
I think I may have missed something here. Would you expand on this comment as I am intrigued?

I too am still waiting for this explanation.

Also, Jimmy would've left Patrick Crayton in KC after that poorformance.
And Roy11 is doing just fine.....not to mention leading the way on every long run we've had this season. He is very underrated as a run blocker, and he's a big reason that we run so well this year.
 

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ScipioCowboy;3026935 said:
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However, we should note that Jimmy always had his best players on the field. If Jimmy were the current head coach, his decision would probably be the same: Bench Crayton, not Williams, in favor of Austin because Crayton is the last talented of the three.

Jimmy was not at all hesitant to bench Martin in favor of Harper.

If Williams responds with an improved effort, then the "article" is worth the ink and time to read it. If Williams runs sloppy routes, or drops the ball, then the article points out what is true. Crayton is not a #2 receiver. I'm betting his play improves out of the slot.
 

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Austin has earned more playing time and while Crayton is not playing bad Williams is a better player overall. Don’t just look at catches, Parcells wouldn’t. RW has been blocking with fire and is one reason Dallas has such a good rushing attack.

With so many weapons in Dallas there are not enough balls to go around to make the RW trade look spectacular. We have a top rated offense.

BTW, How do you know Austin is forced to play out of position as a Z receiver. He has not even failed at it yet. Werder, at least let the experiment fail before you say it is wrong.

We need to get him more involved in quick slants to move the chains and let Austin run deep. If you really want to follow Belichick then don’t worry about stats worry about wins my media friends.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3026950 said:
That's what's so stupid about it. Apparently, he thinks Roy should be benched because he hasn't "met expectations".

If everyone who failed to meet "expectations" got benched in this league, the games would look like the XFL.

Or, players might try harder to live up to their mouths and paychecks. Roy Williams wants to be 'elite' so he say's. Well, by all means be elite. Don't tell me what you want to be, be what you're being paid to be. Until then he's anything but and is behind Crayton, who isn't telling us he wants to be elite.

Chocolate Lab;3026950 said:
If Ed really wanted to argue this, he should've asked why Barbie Carp is still on the team. But claiming you should play an inferior player like Crayton over Roy ruins his whole argument.

I know Carpenter is everybody's whipping boy, but you can't pretend expectations are the same for him and Roy. He isn't a high priced starter, costly in picks and money. You might want to compare Roy to his equivocal counterparts, like Ware and Spencer or Adams and Gurode. Starters.

Chocolate Lab;3026950 said:
This is exactly why I asked yesterday if anyone really thought Crayton was a better player than Roy.

Which is why it's worse having Crayton looking better this season. The perception of Williams is one thing, what he has done is entirely another Outside of the Tampa game he hasn't done much.
 

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ouch! I guess he could've just aligator-armed it like TO used to do. ;)

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Dallas;3026960 said:
Crayton is absolutely NOT bettter than RW. I would like for someone to come in and argue that he is.

RW does a LOT more than Crayton. Roy Williams blows people up while run blocking.

I wish he would do more at his position though, but Im patient. I think it will come around.

A lot of this is Romo still not being comfortable w/ RW. I have no idea if that will ever change. I just dont understand it.

Throw him the GD ball Tony.

Agreed. I think the key is patience. Roy may never get on the same page with Romo. But i'd atleast like to give them the season.
 

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I agree with what of most ED typed.

Which , is suprising. Roy has struggled, period. Spice it up a bit, see how Austin does now that other teams have some film on him. Let Crayton where he is at and put Roy in the slot. Doesn't like it? Perform better. I see nothing wrong with this. I would go with the hot hand. This team needs all the help they can get and aside from Austin's one error in Denver, he has been pretty solid when on the field.
 

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I think the point of this article was to create controversy,stir the pot if you will.Controversy sells and from the looks of things around here it's looking like a successful venture.

Craig
 

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vta;3026969 said:
Or, players might try harder to live up to their mouths and paychecks. Roy Williams wants to be 'elite' so he say's. Well, by all means be elite. Don't tell me what you want to be, be what you're being paid to be. Until then he's anything but and is behind Crayton, who isn't telling us he wants to be elite.



I know Carpenter is everybody's whipping boy, but you can't pretend expectations are the same for him and Roy. He isn't a high priced starter, costly in picks and money. You might want to compare Roy to his equivocal counterparts, like Ware and Spencer or Adams and Gurode. Starters.



Which is why it's worse having Crayton looking better this season. The perception of Williams is one thing, what he has done is entirely another Outside of the Tampa game he hasn't done much.


Roy isn't the qb. He can't throw himself the ball. He's been open. If Romo won't throw it to him than what do you want him to do? Throw it to himself?

And btw, Carpenter did cost us a pick. A #15th pick which is a lot higher than the one we gave up for Roy.
 

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Hook'em#11;3026979 said:
I agree with what of most ED typed.

Which , is suprising. Roy has struggled, period. Spice it up a bit, see how Austin does now that other teams have some film on him. Let Crayton where he is at and put Roy in the slot. Doesn't like it? Perform better. I see nothing wrong with this. I would go with the hot hand. This team needs all the help they can get and aside from Austin's one error in Denver, he has been pretty solid when on the field.

I completely agree. It was a radical move to bench Bledsoe for the very unknown Romo. Parcells had the balls to do it.

I wish we had someone in the organization now with the same traits.
 

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Hook'em#11;3026979 said:
I agree with what of most ED typed.

Which , is suprising. Roy has struggled, period. Spice it up a bit, see how Austin does now that other teams have some film on him. Let Crayton where he is at and put Roy in the slot. Doesn't like it? Perform better. I see nothing wrong with this. I would go with the hot hand. This team needs all the help they can get and aside from Austin's one error in Denver, he has been pretty solid when on the field.

You're High if you think Crayton is a legit #2 in this league. And Since when do you go from a #1 to a #3 while you're injured? I mean, if Roy played against KC and looked like ****, then you might have a point.
 

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I'm glad Ed Weder is around to educate everone on what "coaching" is.

Thanks Coach Ed.
 

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I don't know - I think I have seen an improvement on making tough calls.

They got rid of crybaby Ellis - because he really was hurting the TEAM with all his complaining.

They got rid of TO - his skills were declining - period.

They let Canty walk and got a replacement at half the price - very shrewd IMO

They made the call on Scandrick and Jenkins - It just wasn't clear cut until the NYG game

They are making the call on Austin starting - only a true fool would start Crayton over Roy Williams
 

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Chocolate Lab;3026950 said:
That's what's so stupid about it. Apparently, he thinks Roy should be benched because he hasn't "met expectations".

If everyone who failed to meet "expectations" got benched in this league, the games would look like the XFL.

If Ed really wanted to argue this, he should've asked why Barbie Carp is still on the team. But claiming you should play an inferior player like Crayton over Roy ruins his whole argument.

This is exactly why I asked yesterday if anyone really thought Crayton was a better player than Roy.

I know we're all unhappy with Carp vs expectations and most are not hopeful
he'll significantly improve, but who should be playing the guy's role instead at this point?

I actually don't think the point is any better illustrated with Carpenter. Who is more game ready to play nickel LB on this team? Or who did we cut that was better?

I am quite confident that Carpenter will be off the team as soon as another player legitimately pushes him off with his performance.

I think this whole story is trumped up. I don't think big contracts or draft status receive anymore favorable treatment in Dallas than anywhere else in the league.

But that's just me.
 

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I think Ed Werder is trying to create a story.

One of the deficiencies of RW is his ego, IMO. This harping by Werder is going to cause Roy to blow up, I'm afraid.
 

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UVAwahoos;3026984 said:
I completely agree. It was a radical move to bench Bledsoe for the very unknown Romo. Parcells had the balls to do it.

I wish we had someone in the organization now with the same traits.

Please.....

It was anything but.
 

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Hook'em#11;3026979 said:
I agree with what of most ED typed.

Which , is suprising. Roy has struggled, period. Spice it up a bit, see how Austin does now that other teams have some film on him. Let Crayton where he is at and put Roy in the slot. Doesn't like it? Perform better. I see nothing wrong with this. I would go with the hot hand. This team needs all the help they can get and aside from Austin's one error in Denver, he has been pretty solid when on the field.

But Roy has performed better than Crayton this season.
 
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