ESPN Werder: Romo is QB with "Everything to Lose."...Vid post #65

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First, I want to thank Ed Werder for reporting the obvious.

However, everything he stated is absolutely true.

Tony Romo is under huge pressure to win his first Playoff Game, to win Wade Phillips' first Playoff Game and to win the first Playoff Game in about 13 Seasons or so for the Franchise.

I believe Tony Romo understand this and he will accept the challenge.
 

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Boyzmamacita;3206324 said:
Start with the one in your mirror.

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Sorry? There is absolutely nothing for me, myself, to be jealous of concerning the Cowboys. I have heard the same claim before from Cowboys' fans that others is jealous of them. I see that as overly self gratifying. I would hope you would be satisfied with whatever it is you feel you have without imagining others would want it, as well.
 

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jswalker1981;3207021 said:
Peyton Manning lost his first THREE playoff games before winning one. So apparently it's not all doom and gloom.

Oh, I agree with this 100%. But, just like with Manning, that was not the general consensus.
 

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AsylumGuido;3205341 said:
We shall see what it becomes on the football field over the next several years. So far it is being recognized as one of the top four or five QB's in the league today. It is being recognized as the first QB in Saints history to lead them to a first round bye and the NFC championship game. It is being recongized as being the first Saints QB to win 13 games and pass for over 5000 yards..


While the 5000 yards in passing is impressive. The rest isn't. It's the damn Saints.

AsylumGuido;3205791 said:
No, it's not just the playoff win. It's also the Carrie Underwood and the Jessica Simpson and all the buy in to the hype. Romo, in part, set himself up on this uber-visible pedestal from which he was so easily knocked. It is the billion dollar stadium. It is the massive self-promotion of the Cowboys that is the enabler.

Once again, fair or unfair, what is ... is.

So, now Romo isn't allowed to date? LOL, Okay.

And Jerry can't be the great salesman that he is.

Newsflash Mr. Wizard. Jerry LOVES making money. And god bless him. He LOVES his Dallas Cowboys. He went broke signing him and he deserves all he gets.

I swear, these "fans" of other teams just don't get it.
 

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Hook'em#11;3207380 said:
While the 5000 yards in passing is impressive. The rest isn't. It's the damn Saints.



So, now Romo isn't allowed to date? LOL, Okay.

And Jerry can't be the great salesman that he is.

Newsflash Mr. Wizard. Jerry LOVES making money. And god bless him. He LOVES his Dallas Cowboys. He went broke signing him and he deserves all he gets.

I swear, these "fans" of other teams just don't get it.

Once again, I understand, but that is not what the average fan sees.
 

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AsylumGuido;3207419 said:
Once again, I understand, but that is not what the average fan sees.
Do you speak for the average fan?
 

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DallasEast;3207760 said:
Do you speak for the average fan?

As a frequent visitor to team message boards around the league, yes, I can read what is being said and can regurgitate. I can also see what I read across the league on blogs and in articles. As I said, my beliefs do not necessarily jive with those of the general public, but the consensus is out there for anyone to find given the time.
 

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Maikeru-sama;3207118 said:
First, I want to thank Ed Werder for reporting the obvious.

However, everything he stated is absolutely true.

Tony Romo is under huge pressure to win his first Playoff Game, to win Wade Phillips' first Playoff Game and to win the first Playoff Game in about 13 Seasons or so for the Franchise.

I believe Tony Romo understand this and he will accept the challenge.

NO. Everything he said and the perception he created is NOT true. Romo didn't lose that Giants game with a last second interception. I'll give you the fact he didn't rally us to a win. But he didn't lose the game because of that interception. That is bogus reporting and something ESPN is famous for. They think if they speak it then its the truth. Not hardly.
 

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AsylumGuido;3205776 said:
But very real, nonetheless.

Yes, the perception is real because of the reasons I stated.

The reality of the perception is not. There's a huge difference.
 

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jobberone;3208049 said:
NO. Everything he said and the perception he created is NOT true. Romo didn't lose that Giants game with a last second interception. I'll give you the fact he didn't rally us to a win. But he didn't lose the game because of that interception. That is bogus reporting and something ESPN is famous for. They think if they speak it then its the truth. Not hardly.

Yes, Tony Romo wasn't the reason we lost against Seattle and the Giants but what does that have to do with the fact that Tony Romo carries the weight of his legacy, along with Wade Phillips legacy and getting this Franchise deep into the Playoffs again.

There is a lot riding on this game.

Regardless of who was to blame for past failures, when Ed Werder says that Tony Romo has a ton of pressure on him is an extremely accurate assessment.
 

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SultanOfSix;3208128 said:
Yes, the perception is real because of the reasons I stated.

The reality of the perception is not. There's a huge difference.

Exactly. It the perception to which I speak. More often than not, perception has a longer lasting affect than does reality.
 

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Maikeru-sama;3208184 said:
Yes, Tony Romo wasn't the reason we lost against Seattle and the Giants but what does that have to do with the fact that Tony Romo carries the weight of his legacy, along with Wade Phillips legacy and getting this Franchise deep into the Playoffs again.

There is a lot riding on this game.

Regardless of who was to blame for past failures, when Ed Werder says that Tony Romo has a ton of pressure on him is an extremely accurate assessment.

Thanks! I was trying to come up with a way to state the exact same thing while trying to remain somewhat diplomatic knowing, of course, that I am guest on these boards.
 

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AsylumGuido;3205791 said:
No, it's not just the playoff win. It's also the Carrie Underwood and the Jessica Simpson and all the buy in to the hype. Romo, in part, set himself up on this uber-visible pedestal from which he was so easily knocked. It is the billion dollar stadium. It is the massive self-promotion of the Cowboys that is the enabler.

Once again, fair or unfair, what is ... is.

Wrong!

Folks just need to realize that every Quarterback goes through the same pressures.


You first prove that you can play in the league

You then prove that you can win in the Regular Season

You then prove that you can win in the Post Season

You then prove that you can win a Super Bowl

You then prove that you are one of the best all time

Every great Quarterback has had to deal with those aforementioned pressures at one time or another.

For some, depending on the team and/or the Franchise, those pressures could be a lot greater.
 

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Maikeru-sama;3208220 said:
Wrong!

Folks just need to realize that every Quarterback goes through the same pressures.


You first prove that you can play in the league

You then prove that you can win in the Regular Season

You then prove that you can win in the Post Season

You then prove that you can win a Super Bowl

You then prove that you are one of the best all time

Every great Quarterback has had to deal with those aforementioned pressures at one time or another.

For some, depending on the team and/or the Franchise, those pressures could be a lot greater.

Very true ... for most quarterbacks in the league. But, you have to admit ... once again ... that the perception is that Romo is not most quarterbacks for many of the reason I stated above. That is why I said fair or unfair.
 

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AsylumGuido;3208235 said:
Very true ... for most quarterbacks in the league. But, you have to admit ... once again ... that the perception is that Romo is not most quarterbacks for many of the reason I stated above. That is why I said fair or unfair.

How?

Tony Romo is clearly at the stage where he has to prove he can win in the Playoffs.

I failed to see how Tony Romo is different from any good Quarterback in the League.

Drew Brees is at the stage of his career where he has to prove he can win a Super Bowl.
 

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Maikeru-sama;3208242 said:
How?

Tony Romo is clearly at the stage where he has to prove he can win in the Playoffs.

I failed to see how Tony Romo is different from any good Quarterback in the League.

Drew Brees is at the stage of his career where he has to prove he can win a Super Bowl.

I agree that he is simply at that stage. But, the perception is that he is the "chosen one" playing in the golden palace while adorned in precious jewels with beautiful princesses on each arm. It is, as you mention, different pressure based upon the franchise. And I will add, different based upon other factors. Therefore, fair or unfair, Romo is held to a higher standard and thus, has more to lose.
 

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AsylumGuido;3208254 said:
I agree that he is simply at that stage. But, the perception is that he is the "chosen one" playing in the golden palace while adorned in precious jewels with beautiful princesses on each arm. It is, as you mention, different pressure based upon the franchise. And I will add, different based upon other factors. Therefore, fair or unfair, Romo is held to a higher standard and thus, has more to lose.

Perception by who?

And please don't say Cowboys fans, because Tony Romo gets ripped quite frequently by the Fanbase.

I don't think Tony Romo is the chosen one. I believe he is a very good Quarterback who has the talent to have a special career.

Tony Romo is at the same stage of his career as Aaron Rogers. Both players need to prove they can win in the Post-Season.

That's really the bottom line.
 

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Maikeru-sama;3208355 said:
Perception by who?

And please don't say Cowboys fans, because Tony Romo gets ripped quite frequently by the Fanbase.

I don't think Tony Romo is the chosen one. I believe he is a very good Quarterback who has the talent to have a special career.

Tony Romo is at the same stage of his career as Aaron Rogers. Both players need to prove they can win in the Post-Season.

That's really the bottom line.

No, definitely not Cowboys fans. Y'all are the main group with a sense of reality. I really think we are agreeing in general, but not necessarily on all the fine points of the agreement. You agree? :D

All that said, I would love to wish y'all luck tomorrow, but honestly I would rather face a beat up Eagles squad the following week. But, if the Cowboy's do win I feel confident that the Saints will still be there waiting for an NFC championship match up against the Vikes/Cowboys winner.
 
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