ESPN Werder: Romo is QB with "Everything to Lose."...Vid post #65

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goshan;3204380 said:
His point has some validity.
If Romo comes out and stinks it up, the national and local media will absolutely be all over him about choking again.
I think by 'everything to lose' he means the cred ROMO has gained the past 4-6 weeks as stepping up at key times. And really it is the media that will be able to bash him again.

If McNabb stinks it up, it won't be talked about that much.

This is it exactly. Romo finally has the opportunity to lose, or at least diminish, the choker tag he has gained over his brief career. Yet another loss, be it his fault or not, in that once again critical playoff game will further cement that tag to his chest. We all know what parity has done to the NFL. It may be five years before this opportunity reappears and by then Romo may have been nothing more than a footnote in Dallas history.

So, yes, be it fair or not, Romo has far and away the most to lose.
 

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AsylumGuido;3204414 said:
This is it exactly. Romo finally has the opportunity to lose, or at least diminish, the choker tag he has gained over his brief career. Yet another loss, be it his fault or not, in that once again critical playoff game will further cement that tag to his chest. We all know what parity has done to the NFL. It may be five years before this opportunity reappears and by then Romo may have been nothing more than a footnote in Dallas history.

So, yes, be it fair or not, Romo has far and away the most to lose.

That assumes he, or anyone in the organization, cares about the ridiculous choker tag in the first place. Since they don't appear to, there's really nothing to lose.

This team, however, has a lot to lose if we don't get it done on Saturday. I know there are a lot of fans of a lot of NFC teams who are hoping PHI somehow pulls it out all of a sudden.
 

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AsylumGuido;3204414 said:
This is it exactly. Romo finally has the opportunity to lose, or at least diminish, the choker tag he has gained over his brief career. Yet another loss, be it his fault or not, in that once again critical playoff game will further cement that tag to his chest. We all know what parity has done to the NFL. It may be five years before this opportunity reappears and by then Romo may have been nothing more than a footnote in Dallas history.

So, yes, be it fair or not, Romo has far and away the most to lose.
I certainly hope we are able to revisit this post in two weeks.
 

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goshan;3204380 said:
His point has some validity.
If Romo comes out and stinks it up, the national and local media will absolutely be all over him about choking again.
I think by 'everything to lose' he means the cred ROMO has gained the past 4-6 weeks as stepping up at key times. And really it is the media that will be able to bash him again.

If McNabb stinks it up, it won't be talked about that much.

Completely disagree.

If Romo stinks it up - and he won't - but even if he did, he's already disspelled any notion that he's not among the best quarterbacks in the league. One need look no futher than his performance this season. It ranks right there with the league's best and far surpasses McNabb in any case.

He's played great in December, he's won the "big games" and his team has won when it counts. He's already quieted any doubters who actually know what they're talking about. Ed Werder is not among that group. He's simply a $#!*-stirrer who'll grasp at whatevere straws he can in a weak effort to stir controversy. He should be writing for the National Enquirer, not reporting on sports.

As for McNabb, he's got more pressure on him, whether he or Werder, knows it or not. If he doesn't take the Eagles deep into the playoffs, his head will be next on the chopping block. He's the guy nearing the end of his career, he's the guy who threw his teammates under the bus, he's the guy, and he's the guy whose young, highly-drafted, backup quarterback outplayed him this season.

But those facts once again illustrate that Werder won;t let facts get in the way of trying to stir controversy.
 
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That assumes he, or anyone in the organization, cares about the ridiculous choker tag in the first place. Since they don't appear to, there's really nothing to lose.

This team, however, has a lot to lose if we don't get it done on Saturday. I know there are a lot of fans of a lot of NFC teams who are hoping PHI somehow pulls it out all of a sudden.


Would those fans consist of annoying ******** who are Eagles, Giants, Commanders, Packers, 40-Whiners, and Taints fans? Hahaha yeah there's also alot of AFC fans hoping we choke too. Including the Ravens fans in this cesspool. It's pretty toxic so far, and they keep telling me how wonderful Joe Flaccid is here.
 

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Idgit;3204422 said:
That assumes he, or anyone in the organization, cares about the ridiculous choker tag in the first place. Since they don't appear to, there's really nothing to lose.

This team, however, has a lot to lose if we don't get it done on Saturday. I know there are a lot of fans of a lot of NFC teams who are hoping PHI somehow pulls it out all of a sudden.

Warranted or not, the tag is there. His credibility to many, fairly or unfairly, is at stake outside of Cowboyland, and to more than a few, within those hallowed gates.
 

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stasheroo;3204433 said:
Completely disagree.

If Romo stinks it up - and he won't - but even if he did, he's already disspelled any notion that he's not among the best quarterbacks in the league. One need look no futher than his performance this season. It ranks right there with the league's best and far surpasses McNabb in any case.

He's played great in December, he's won the "big games" and his team has won when it counts. He's already quieted any doubters who actually know what they're talking about. Ed Werder is not among that group. He's simply a $#!*-stirrer who'll grasp at whatevere straws he can in a weak effort to stir controversy. He should be writing for the National Enquirer, not reporting on sports.

As for McNabb, he's got more pressure on him, whether he or Werder, knows it or not. If he doesn't take the Eagles deep into the playoffs, his head will be next on the chopping block. He's the guy nearing the end of his career, he's the guy who threw his teammates under the bus, he's the guy, and he's the guy whose young, highly-drafted, backup quarterback outplayed him this season.

But those facts once again illustrate that Werder won;t let facts get in the way of trying to stir controversy.

You can disagree all you want, but in the scheme of national media, your opinion doesn't matter. I can assure you that if Romo stinks it up, the media will be all over Romo after the game and in the offseason that he can't step up at key points - hence he really is a choker. I don't believe he is a choker and you don't, but the facts are he has the most to lose from a national media standpoint which will impact the perception most casual fans have on Romo.
 

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goshan;3204717 said:
You can disagree all you want, but in the scheme of national media, your opinion doesn't matter. I can assure you that if Romo stinks it up, the media will be all over Romo after the game and in the offseason that he can't step up at key points - hence he really is a choker. I don't believe he is a choker and you don't, but the facts are he has the most to lose from a national media standpoint which will impact the perception most casual fans have on Romo.

Hey, in my "scheme", the opinion of national media - especially hacks like Werder - doesn't matter.

Romo's proven himself already - he's "stepped-up" in critical games against the Saints, Giants, and Eagles. Even in the Cowboys' losses Romo has played great. And anyone who knows what they're talking about can see that.

Even if Romo "stinks it up", what happens?

Some criticism? Definitely.

But he's also back in Dallas next season. Definitely.

What happens if McNabb loses?

Think he's definitely back in Philadelphia?

I don't.

Now who has more pressure?
 

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I dont understand Ed.

But But I thought McNabb has been a better QB this year than Romo, and McNabb has playoff exp. by winning. And if He lost to Romo that would tarnish the philly QB.
 

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goshan;3204717 said:
You can disagree all you want, but in the scheme of national media, your opinion doesn't matter. I can assure you that if Romo stinks it up, the media will be all over Romo after the game and in the offseason that he can't step up at key points - hence he really is a choker. I don't believe he is a choker and you don't, but the facts are he has the most to lose from a national media standpoint which will impact the perception most casual fans have on Romo.

Yup. This was the same point I was making. Of course most Cowboys fans do not feel he is not a choker. I don't even think he is a choker. But I know for a fact that IS a very prevalent opinion outside of the Cowboy community. By winning a playoff game he can finally change this perception, therefore he has the most to gain by a win, and thus, the most to lose by a loss.
 

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AsylumGuido;3204990 said:
Yup. This was the same point I was making. Of course most Cowboys fans do not feel he is not a choker. I don't even think he is a choker. But I know for a fact that IS a very prevalent opinion outside of the Cowboy community. By winning a playoff game he can finally change this perception, therefore he has the most to gain by a win, and thus, the most to lose by a loss.

What's the point of changing a perception that's not based on any evidence whatsoever? If the media can tag you for any shortcoming, real or imagined, you waste your time shedding undeserved labels. There's no point. Much better just to concentrate on the game and ignore the sideshow completely.
 

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AsylumGuido;3204990 said:
Yup. This was the same point I was making. Of course most Cowboys fans do not feel he is not a choker. I don't even think he is a choker. But I know for a fact that IS a very prevalent opinion outside of the Cowboy community. By winning a playoff game he can finally change this perception, therefore he has the most to gain by a win, and thus, the most to lose by a loss.

Again, what are the chance Romo goes anywhere if he loses?

And what are the chances McNabb goes if he does?

I'd take some media ridicule over a forced change of address anyday.
 

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I can't stand Werder, but his is right, fair or not. Romo has the most to lose because he is the Cowboys' QB and has to carry the baggage that comes with it. And, what he has to lose is almost indescribably huge - a rising crescendo of "no playoff win in 14 years" cries by the media that will last for at least a year. That's right, Romo will be the focal point for a Cowboys era of failure that started when he was in high school. And the rest of the team will get it too.

The only way out is to win. Winning is everything.
 

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Idgit;3205001 said:
What's the point of changing a perception that's not based on any evidence whatsoever? If the media can tag you for any shortcoming, real or imagined, you waste your time shedding undeserved labels. There's no point. Much better just to concentrate on the game and ignore the sideshow completely.

Not say that it should affect concentration one bit. Or it shouldn't anyway. But, Romo, like any other public figure, cannot help but have feelings about how he is perceived. It is simple human nature. Now, he can undoubtedly ignore any pressure associated with those perceptions leading up to and even through the game. But, if the Cowboys fail once again to pluck that golden ring known as a playoff win I guarantee you the heat cranked up that much more and he will definitely be feeling it. Once again, simple human nature.

But, on the other hand, if Dallas can somehow get that 800 pound gorilla off their backs and gain that playoff win Romo may finally get the opportunity to recieve the recognition he would deserve from the non-Cowboy community. That is a lot to lose.
 

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stasheroo;3205005 said:
Again, what are the chance Romo goes anywhere if he loses?

And what are the chances McNabb goes if he does?

I'd take some media ridicule over a forced change of address anyday.

You have obviously never been in the public eye before. Changing of addresses, or jobs, is an everyday occurrence. Public (don't just pin this on the media because the masses have this feeling, as well) ridicule is much more painful.
 

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What a cross to bear. Having to report on a team you hate. Poor Ed Werder. What a jerk!
 

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McNabb is the QB with everything to lose .... including a job.

If McNabb loses this game, Kolb is the Eagles 2010 Opening Day starter.
 

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Idgit;3204372 said:
To be clear, I was just making fun of you in that last thread, and not concerned about the subject matter of whatever it was at all.

And for future reference since you're new around here, the lmao2 smiley is supposed to reserved for posts that are amusing. There's no harm in using it the way you do, though, too. It makes your posts colorful at least, when people are skimming over the content.
:laugh1:eek:uch
 

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InmanRoshi;3205051 said:
McNabb is the QB with everything to lose .... including a job.

That is not that big of a deal, even if it came to fruition. There are half a dozen NFL teams that would love to have McNabb starting tomorrow. A loss this week would not hurt his legacy one iota. Whereas, a loss by the Cowboys would further cement Romo's legacy.
 
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