News: ESPN: With cap issues looming in 2022, Dallas Cowboys need to win now

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Now if they restructure Daks deal and extend him before the void years they can avoid that dead cap from the void years. It puts the heat on the team in the future to extend him or have 20+mil dead cap and no QB.

Cooper, I'm still 50/50 on trading him and re-signing Gallup(if he could be cheaper).
Extending would be the best move but the most complicated
I don’t think trading cooper is an option myself
We can make cap room but any moves that create cap room come with downsides
If we had 4-5 martins to extend it would be easy lol
If you want a player signed into his 30’s an OLine guy is the ones to do it with but we just restructured Martin I believe
 

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Yawn, clickbait.

This is nothing more than ESPN trying to take advantage of Dallas winning and the interest they have right now. This is the same darn near every year, with every team. It just so happens that nobody cares about the Dolphins cap issues.
Write an article on what the Cowboys have for lunch at the star, its front page on espn garnering clicks
 

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I love the guy and he's one of my favorite players but that ain't a hard decision at all. Same goes for Collins. Don't get me wrong I know Collins is superior to Steele but they've shown they can get the job done with Steele. And these guys simply aren't here when we need them to be right now.
Moving on from lawrence isn’t cheap
I have looked at Collins
 

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I really hope so. However it may just lead to him demanding a one year deal or franchise tag because his agent knows this.
Very possible, however he is 29 now and that may be too much of a risk for him. He may be willing to accept a deal similar to Coopers with a two years worth of guarantees and a high AAV that goes years to year by 2024 and can be renegotiated for more guarantees. Like a deal reported as 5/100, but is really 2/34. Gives him a good payday, plus the ability to more guarenteed down the line. And gives us flexibility
 

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Very possible, however he is 29 now and that may be too much of a risk for him. He may be willing to accept a deal similar to Coopers with a two years worth of guarantees and a high AAV that goes years to year by 2024 and can be renegotiated for more guarantees. Like a deal reported as 5/100, but is really 2/34. Gives him a good payday, plus the ability to more guarenteed down the line. And gives us flexibility
Good point.
 

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Very possible, however he is 29 now and that may be too much of a risk for him. He may be willing to accept a deal similar to Coopers with a two years worth of guarantees and a high AAV that goes years to year by 2024 and can be renegotiated for more guarantees. Like a deal reported as 5/100, but is really 2/34. Gives him a good payday, plus the ability to more guarenteed down the line. And gives us flexibility

Again, I hope so. I think the guy should have some measure of loyalty and gratitude to Jerry and the Cowboys after they stood by him when no one else would have.
 

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Again, I hope so. I think the guy should have some measure of loyalty and gratitude to Jerry and the Cowboys after they stood by him when no one else would have.
That and I dont know how willing outside teams would be to make a big commitment to him. Dallas is probably his best bet to not get something year by year
 

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Again, I hope so. I think the guy should have some measure of loyalty and gratitude to Jerry and the Cowboys after they stood by him when no one else would have.
This has been brought up before and I kind of still have the same opinion on it. I think guys look at their play as showing loyalty and gratitude to Jerry. I don't think taking a lesser salary is even in question and I can't blame him the guy was just working at a Amazon Warehouse not too long ago. He's about to be 30. He won't have many big pay days left.
 

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If they have to negotiate a smaller deal. I don't know how they do it I Just know they can't justify paying him that salary . Same goes for Collins.
Collins has to be decided quickly
He has a guarantee that kicks in early next year
Dlaw is probably too expensive to move on from
That’s the issue with restructures
You limit your options in the future
That’s why I’m not a fan of messing with Zeke and coopers contracts
Last year obviously messed up the cap but going forward I think teams have a good feel of what the cap will be and that’s why deals get structured in sometimes strange ways
Like Dak has a 14 mil cap hit the year after his deal technically expires, a voidable year you can stash cap hit in. But the next year there is an option to also stash money if they decide to. If you know it’s safe to do so you can do it. They built it in so they have the option and it will be interesting to see if the do, but doing so leave 20mil or so in dead cap after he’s gone if you don’t extend him again and rolls it into a new deal, on top of the new money if you extend him
 

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This has been brought up before and I kind of still have the same opinion on it. I think guys look at their play as showing loyalty and gratitude to Jerry. I don't think taking a lesser salary is even in question and I can't blame him the guy was just working at a Amazon Warehouse not too long ago. He's about to be 30. He won't have many big pay days left.

I don’t expect any huge concessions, just something to show gratitude and appreciation. If not for Jerry Jones, Randy Gregory wouldn’t be in the league right now. That should count for something.
 

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The ESPN article seems to be poorly researched (shocking!). How on earth did they calculate him having a $10M base salary for 2021?
Collins has to be decided quickly
He has a guarantee that kicks in early next year

I suspect that Collins' 2022 guarantees went bust when he was suspended. It's still a contractual obligation if they keep him, but they can wait to cut him much later without that chunk being an anchor.
 

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well, obviously this is click bait for cowboys fans...but

there are quite a few candidates for their contract to get redone to open up cap space.

there are few players that probably won't be here in 2022,
  • DLaw (post june 1 releasing him would open 19M in cap space)
  • Jarwin (post june 1 opens up around 5M)
  • Anthony Brown (post june 1 opens up another 5M)
  • Jourdan Lewis (could save around 3M)
so that's about 25-30M on 4 players alone.

then restructuring a few can open up quite a bit of cap space, like Dak, Cooper, Smith, Zeke, Zak, Collins.
Plus the cap maybe much higher than 208M, getting back to normal and some new TV contract deal that will add to

I just looked at DLaw's contract 27 million with a 19 million dead money charge. There is no chance he plays with that number, either restructures or gets released.
 

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It’s certainly a factor. Take a look at Demarcus Lawrence and his contract. Are you happy with those returns?




Again, I see a lot of talk here, with nothing tangible behind it.

Denial ain’t just a River in Egypt.
I am not happy with returns. the past is the past. you have to look from now on and forward. what's it going to cost. what will I get in return (not having gotten anything in return for the from previous years is almost irrelevant outside of predicting what he can do in the future)....

with that said, I put Lawrence as a post june 1 cut candidate. he will cost 27M. his dead cap is 19M. so split that into two years and you save around 19M.

the rest can't be june 1 cuts (as one poster corrected me), but they represent significant total savings and not sure what they will produce for the money and if they can easily be replaced (joseph for brown, etc.).

not sure what you mean by denial. I think you are just arguing for the sake of arguing, being a troll per se as your last two posts haven't provided any substantial information outside of quoting some sayings....so with that said, Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth ;)
 
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