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^I think it would be stupid of Holland to field a strong team, it's a completely useless game for them. I'd rest my big players to avoid injury, eliminating France and Italy would just be an added bonus.
 

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UKCowboysFan;2119217 said:
Ask yourself one question.

If you were Holland, and had to play either Italy or Romania in the final which would you choose?

Holland can knock out both Italy & France, without harming themselves at all by losing to Romania.

I'm not suggesting for a minute that they will deliberately throw the game, but I'm not sure that they will be 100% focussed on the game

:( Sadly...I totally agree with you. IMO there is no chance to see other scenario, and again, like 4 years ago, my Italy will be condemned by this kind of jokes...other then by itself
 

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^You can't blame Holland though, would you risk your players in a meaningless game? it would be stupid. Italy have brought this on themselves, you don't deserve to go through by not winning a game.
 

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Dave the Sicilian;2119331 said:
:( Sadly...I totally agree with you. IMO there is no chance to see other scenario, and again, like 4 years ago, my Italy will be condemned by this kind of jokes...other then by itself

Well, they did manage to win a pretty important tournament in between the last UEFA Cup and this one.
 

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UKCowboysFan;2119217 said:
Ask yourself one question.

If you were Holland, and had to play either Italy or Romania in the final which would you choose?

Holland can knock out both Italy & France, without harming themselves at all by losing to Romania.

I'm not suggesting for a minute that they will deliberately throw the game, but I'm not sure that they will be 100% focussed on the game

Even while resting their stars Holland is good enough to beat Romania
 

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gazmc_06;2119365 said:
^You can't blame Holland though, would you risk your players in a meaningless game? it would be stupid. Italy have brought this on themselves, you don't deserve to go through by not winning a game.

Infact, as I said, we can blame almost only ourselves
 

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I hope Holland plays their subs. I want to see RVP play a full game or at least start
 

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thekavorka;2119869 said:
I hope Holland plays their subs. I want to see RVP play a full game or at least start

yeah, I think both Robben and Van Persie are gonna get significant playing time.
 

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domenech is a freaking idiot.

he took out nasri for boumsong after the red card. granted, there's only 10 people, but france needs to score.

he should've taken out malouda or makalele. they've been terrible.
 

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If these results hold up another 45min Italy will advance :cool:
 

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Italy made it, they will most likely face Spain which should be a great game :)
 

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at least domenech will get fired. people were questioning his selections from the start.

when he left out clichy, sagna, and trezeguet, he deserved to get beaten.
 

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Dave the Sicilian;2119331 said:
:( Sadly...I totally agree with you. IMO there is no chance to see other scenario, and again, like 4 years ago, my Italy will be condemned by this kind of jokes...other then by itself

Yeeeeaaaah :D
I'm very very happy to admit that I was totally wrooong!!! Yes...we did it!!! Game dominated and we go on...Tx Azzurri
and...tx to Holland:wink2:
 

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Ren;2120668 said:
No Gattuso and Pirlo against Spain though :(

I think it can be no bad at all :rolleyes: ...I don't like how have played Gattuso and even Pirlo is not at their level IMO. I think we'll have De Rossi, Ambrosini, Aquilani at midfield.
And I hope that even Perrotta will not be in the starting 11, cause is totally out of condition
 

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thekavorka;2120528 said:
at least domenech will get fired. people were questioning his selections from the start.

when he left out clichy, sagna, and trezeguet, he deserved to get beaten.

can't complain about Trezeguet, he did nothing for them in qualification. I would have kept Cisse.

He kept Vieira who said he would be ready then couldn't play a game. Flamini would have been a better choice.

He plays so defensive despite that talent. Yeah he took them to the Final in 2006 but he should go.

Now I fall back to the old standard, Anybody but the Azzurri.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;2120921 said:
can't complain about Trezeguet, he did nothing for them in qualification. I would have kept Cisse.

He kept Vieira who said he would be ready then couldn't play a game. Flamini would have been a better choice.

He plays so defensive despite that talent. Yeah he took them to the Final in 2006 but he should go.

Now I fall back to the old standard, Anybody but the Azzurri.

well, trezeguet did have 2 goals in 2 games in qualifying. he'd definitely be better than anelka.

yeah, the vieira situation hurt. Flamini had a great season at Arsenal.

and sagnol - sucks
thuram - old
abidal at CB? - sucks
gallas - only decent player in the back line.

Back line should be: Sagna, Gallas, Mexes, Clichy
midfield - ribery - flamini - nasri - ben arfa/evra (evra can play the wing too)

up front - henry, benzema/trezeguet
 

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If I remember correctly, and I did watch most of the France games in qualifying, Trezeguet scored only against Faroe Islands.

Anelka did quite well in qualifying, scoring the winner in Lithuania, against Ukraine, Faroe Islands etc

Sigh, the only thing worse than France not advancing is the fact Italy did.
 
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