Everyone is writing Randy Gregory off. I'm not

[JoeKing]

Stoned 'nuts?' Can you please stop with the reefer madness rhetoric. It's foolishness.

1) No one is saying making DUI legal.
2) Since legalization, traffic accidents in Colorado are down.

Puritans like making up fictional stories not based in reality to try and fearmonger their way into policy. Facts do not bear out your scenario unfortunately. What is impinging on someone's rights is to incarcerate them for doing something that has no effect on you because you are scared.

More front brain. Less back brain please.

You are arguing ideology in a sports forum. As great as you think you are at it, I would encourage you to incorporate more sports and less ideology into your arguments. You are a great debatator, some might even say a master debater. I tip might hat to you sir. But please, sports not ideology.

 

[JoeKing]

Who gets to say what is right? You? Please point to me the amendment or clause of the constitution that justifies your puritanism.

You can whine about the inherent evil of a naturally occurring plant if you like but at the end of the day our republic is what it is. Thus legalization being on 20 ballots this year.

This is just the kind of ideological argument that isn't allowed. I won't engage.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You are arguing ideology in a sports forum. As great as you think you are at it, I would encourage you to incorporate more sports and less ideology into your arguments. You are a great debatator, some might even say a master debater. I tip might hat to you sir. But please, sports not ideology.

You have nothing to really say then? You brought up ideology when you said that public opinion does not make something 'right.' That is an ideological statement. Dissemble if you must.

This is relevant to sports because of the NFL drug policy and particular with the Cowboys because of suspended players past and present. Dodge, whine, and insult all you like but you will still have no leg to stand on.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This is just the kind of ideological argument that isn't allowed. I won't engage.

Public polling and the reality of the November ballot are not ideology. It's reality. Given the NFL's drug policy and interaction with Nixon historically it applies to sports as well. I'm bringing this up because of Gregory's circumstance so it even applies to this team.

 

[JoeKing]

You have nothing to really say then? You brought up ideology when you said that public opinion does not make something 'right.' That is an ideological statement. Dissemble if you must.

This is relevant to sports because of the NFL drug policy and particular with the Cowboys because of suspended players past and present. Dodge, whine, and insult all you like but you will still have no leg to stand on.

Public polling and the reality of the November ballot are not ideology. It's reality. Given the NFL's drug policy and interaction with Nixon historically it applies to sports as well. I'm bringing this up because of Gregory's circumstance so it even applies to this team.

Politics is reality also but it isn't allowed on this forum.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Politics is reality also but it isn't allowed on this forum.

That is not for you to decide. Like I said this applies to Gregory directly because of the NFL's drug policy. The national opinion and trends about the issue are very germane to a Dallas Cowboys else I wouldn't discuss it. I also am basing my argument on facts. You are the ones bringing in moral judgments.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I get it. He was seemed genuinely sorry for his draft mistake and said all the right things to make us believe that he was going to put the doobies down and focus on becoming a dominate football player. And instead, the dude burns us and fails a few drug tests. It's irritating and ticks me off too. Especially after he said it wouldn't happen again. So I understand why people are writing him off.

But if he can lay off the chronic after he comes back, he could be a difference maker for this defense. There's a reason why he was a top 5 talent in his draft class. He's a special talent. He flashed it last preseason and before his injury last year. And he has a year under his belt now.

I think he will be a force when he comes back. He and Lawrence both. Add Collins, Thornton, Mayowa, Tapper and a healthy Crawford to those two, and I think our pass rush will be better than what people expect.

 

[aikemirv]

I get it. He was seemed genuinely sorry for his draft mistake and said all the right things to make us believe that he was going to put the doobies down and focus on becoming a dominate football player. And instead, the dude burns us and fails a few drug tests. It's irritating and ticks me off too. Especially after he said it wouldn't happen again. So I understand why people are writing him off.

But if he can lay off the chronic after he comes back, he could be a difference maker for this defense. There's a reason why he was a top 5 talent in his draft class. He's a special talent. He flashed it last preseason and before his injury last year. And he has a year under his belt now.

I think he will be a force when he comes back. He and Lawrence both. Add Collins, Thornton, Mayowa, Tapper and a healthy Crawford to those two, and I think our pass rush will be better than what people expect.

You can't fix stupid. He may play well from time to time but I would bet his career is going to be littered with this stuff. We will never be able to rely on him and he will cost himself millions!

 

[JoeKing]

That is not for you to decide. Like I said this applies to Gregory directly because of the NFL's drug policy. The national opinion and trends about the issue are very germane to a Dallas Cowboys else I wouldn't discuss it. I also am basing my argument on facts. You are the ones bringing in moral judgments.

You were getting on a tangent. You needed to bring your arguement back to how it is related to the discussion and keep it there. I've accomplished that. I will not debate ideology with you.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You were getting on a tangent. You needed to bring your arguement back to how it is related to the discussion and keep it there. I've accomplished that. I will not debate ideology with you.

You already have when you said what was 'wrong' and 'right.' Please point to anything that I said that was ideological. Me pointing out yours is ideological nonsense is also reality.

 

[BigStar]

What war. We have who knows how many tunnels that bring in drugs from Mexico. We let them come in now by the
millions with no oversight. There is an easy way to control illegal drugs and that is like Thailand does it. A 3 day
trial and firing squad for convicted drug dealers and drug pushers. Yep, that wouldn't cost billions. I have read up on
the debt. Most of our debt is entitlement debt for medicare, social security, ssi, welfare, food stamps and the
wars we shouldn't have gotten into.

You didn't read up on the FED then What war? The billions of dollars wasted but continuously allocated to LE and federal agencies to "prevent" the attainment of such illegal substances. Add up those figures and the recent militarization of our police force; where did they get all this extra money to acquire such equipment? It's a money maker for the govt/LE...

 

[BigStar]

No, it's free except your rights end where my nose begins. I don't want stoned nuts driving in
a car or doing anything else that might endanger me, my family or friends. Now if you want
to get stoned on MJ or drunk on alcohol and run your car at 100mph into a tree, have at it
with my blessing. Whatever makes you happy.

So now the argument is stoned drivers are the risk that involves needing to ban it for the sake of our society? Alcohol is the MAJOR cause of what you described in your narrative and the good news is that liquor stores are open until 2AM.

 

[BigStar]

Lett was suspended numerous times for violating NFL drug policy , sorry not going to make excuses especially when it happened so many times. I think the best way to pass a drug test. Don't do it to begin with. I am 20 or 20 on passing drug test because I stopped using. NFL career last a short period in a person life why risk it at all? Is it that important to get high if it is then that really is a problem doing something that can put your career at risk.

Lett had anxiety problems and he used an illegal substance that did ruin his career. That's on him. Should it be illegal (not if you are okay w/alcohol being legal). Another argument, etc.

 

[JoeKing]

You already have when you said what was 'wrong' and 'right.' Please point to anything that I said that was ideological. Me pointing out yours is ideological nonsense is also reality.

I've already contributed my $0.02. You won't bait me into a two way conversation about weed.

 

[aikemirv]

Who gets to say what is right? You? Please point to me the amendment or clause of the constitution that justifies your puritanism.

You can whine about the inherent evil of a naturally occurring plant if you like but at the end of the day our republic is what it is. Thus legalization being on 20 ballots this year.

I get so sick of people telling me that I can't say something is wrong if they get to say it is alright. Just a bit of double standard there.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I get that you have to deal with reality and the NFL drug program is reality. Given that and Gregory's history it makes sense to hedge his contributions because they could Josh Gordon him very easily.

AT the same time the NFL is beholden to sponsors and public opinion primarily. If you think that they aren't paying attention to the ballot initiatives going on across half the country you are fooling yourself. The millennials coming into the voting bloc are 70% for legalization so this trend will only continue.

I expect the NFL drug policy will be amended before the end of this decade.

 

[BigStar]

I get so sick of people telling me that I can't say something is wrong if they get to say it is alright. Just a bit of double standard there.

Science and facts help a lot. Jus sayin...

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I've already contributed my $0.02. You won't bait me into a two way conversation about weed.

Nonetheless the only one arguing ideology is you. You having nothing substantive to contribute is not exactly new. Anything else you want to say?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I get so sick of people telling me that I can't say something is wrong if they get to say it is alright. Just a bit of double standard there.

I don't think in terms of moral relativist right and wrong. I cannot stand it when people assume I think like them. You can rail about the moral decay of America if you like. It has no basis in facts or reality. That is my argument.

 

[LittleD]

So now the argument is stoned drivers are the risk that involves needing to ban it for the sake of our society? Alcohol is the MAJOR cause of what you described in your narrative and the good news is that liquor stores are open until 2AM.

It's not good news any more than legal cigarette smoking is not good news. It would not bother me, and countless others, if MJ, tobacco, and alcohol
were made illegal or taxes at much higher rates to limit their use. Alcohol abuse is not a good think just like MJ abuse is not a good thing. You
protest too much me thinks. Isn't it time to find another fish to fry.