Everyone is writing Randy Gregory off. I'm not

[iceberg]

Health related how?

He has a drug addiction..at least the was the word prior to him being drafted, and nothing has happened to change that view

unless he's doing something far more than weed, i'd hardly call smoking weed a "drug addiction". many people do cause people are too stupid to put it down, but you don't go through weed withdrawels as you do alcohol or other "addicting" drugs.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Finally, on that point we can certainly agree. I don't like either one.

That is the point I am making. You keep saying that all it takes is people that agree with you getting in power and it will change.

Fact is people that think like you lose elections and now that the baby boomers are the second largest voting bloc, policy will change. Politicians and companies pay very close to public opinion polls.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I do not engage in those type of debates, I simply asked you for your intention in the post directly, no need to be grumpy or snarky.

Well you have been on a crusade to nitpick something wrong from my arguments for a week now. You should try introspection regarding snark and mood. You're holding a grudge and it's obvious.

My entire schtick is designed to get people's hackles risen intellectually. It winnows the chaff in my experience. I'm not as grumpy as you think I am.

 

[aikemirv]

That is the point I am making. You keep saying that all it takes is people that agree with you getting in power and it will change.

Fact is people that think like you lose elections and now that the baby boomers are the second largest voting bloc, policy will change. Politicians and companies pay very close to public opinion polls.

Morals decay over time. What is your point?

 

[Denim Chicken]

I will say this only. MD's who hand out scripts for MJ do it for the money which is why most people do questionable things. There are other
legal drugs that can help with pain and anxiety but, it's popular to hand out MJ scripts in some states..

Deaths from overdoses of prescription drugs and heroin continue to be the leading cause of unintentional death for Americans, rising 14% from 2013 to 2014. Last year, 47,055 people died from drug overdoses -- 1.5 times greater than the number killed in car crashes.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Well you have been on a crusade to nitpick something wrong from my arguments for a week now. You should try introspection regarding snark and mood. You're holding a grudge and it's obvious.

My entire schtick is designed to get people's hackles risen intellectually. It winnows the chaff in my experience. I'm not as grumpy as you think I am.

Not at all, you were upset with the Dane Brugler Spence situation and my having fun with you on Bosa.

I have absolutely zero issues with Mr. Fuzzy Lumpkins generally speaking unless you are being a jerk or are absolutely wrong!

For your intellectual curiosity:
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[FuzzyLumpkins]

Morals decay over time. What is your point?

I think more along the line of Nietzsche in Beyond Good and Evil. I reject moral paradigms in general. What you think is decaying is simply an arbitrary generational construct. It's why you see the moral decay of the US every generation. Boomers got it, X got it, and now millennials are getting it.

None of that matters because we live in a democratic republic and polling correlates well with elections. Policy makers pay attention to it as well.

 

[Doomsday101]

Are there companies that fire people for having a drink at home?

I don't see anyone advocating getting inebriated at work or in the driver's seat.

No but then it does not stay in the system. I agree a guy could get away with doing cocaine since it does not stay in the body that long. Weed stores in the fatty tissue and will show up on drug test that sucks, that is unfair then again life is not fair but it is how it is. These guy know the rules it is plain as day, they are given multipule chances before being suspended so it is on them not the NFL or anyone else. That is the whole thing you guys want to live in a fantasy world where you can do what you want when you want, I live in reality and right now reality is if you fail a drug test you will get suspended my solution is easy stop doing it after all it is not a big deal right? It is just weed and sure as hell not worth risking a multi-million dollar career or in my case a 60 grand a year job. When I was poised with this question I did not find it that hard to choose and I don't get 3 failed test I get 1 and that is it. Is it fair? what does fair have to do with anything.

 

[Thefeelofcotton]

I've said it before, this is a make or break year for him. Either he puts the reefer down and becomes a stud DE or he fails another drug test and the Cowboys cut ties with him.

 

[aikemirv]

I think more along the line of Nietzsche in Beyond Good and Evil. I reject moral paradigms in general. What you think is decaying is simply an arbitrary generational construct. It's why you see the moral decay of the US every generation. Boomers got it, X got it, and now millennials are getting it.

None of that matters because we live in a democratic republic and polling correlates well with elections. Policy makers pay attention to it as well.

It does matter when your civilization is eventually destroyed by lack of morals. Just ask the Romans. Once the greatest civilization of all time and became decadent and is now nothing. That will happen to America over time if you guys have your way. Go celebrate your victory because it is short -lived!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Not at all, you were upset with the Dane Brugler Spence situation and my having fun with you on Bosa.

I have absolutely zero issues with Mr. Fuzzy Lumpkins generally speaking unless you are being a jerk or are absolutely wrong!

For your intellectual curiosity:
http://i1133.***BLOCKED***/albums/m600/DWAREZIZ/image_1.jpeg

So you're trolling? You admit to having fun trying to irritate people and come at me with questions about my mood? When you turn the golden rule on its head that is not something to be proud of.

None of that is mutually exclusive with you holding a grudge and nitpicking trying to find error in my arguments. You admit that you don't engage in these types of arguments yet here you are.

What I think is that I made you feel stupid at some point by pointing out how you were wrong that is what you take issue with. You can mock fallacies and other means by which I prove you wrong but it definitely shows the crux of the issue. As much as you bring up my back brain comment, I'm guessing that was the one that did it.

You are hardly the only one that acts like this. I attract your type like flies.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No but then it does not stay in the system. I agree a guy could get away with doing cocaine since it does not stay in the body that long. Weed stores in the fatty tissue and will show up on drug test that sucks, that is unfair then again life is not fair but it is how it is. These guy know the rules it is plain as day, they are given multipule chances before being suspended so it is on them not the NFL or anyone else. That is the whole thing you guys want to live in a fantasy world where you can do what you want when you want, I live in reality and right now reality is if you fail a drug test you will get suspended my solution is easy stop doing it after all it is not a big deal right? It is just weed and sure as hell not worth risking a multi-million dollar career or in my case a 60 grand a year job. When I was poised with this question I did not find it that hard to choose and I don't get 3 failed test I get 1 and that is it. Is it fair? what does fair have to do with anything.

Nice strawman and wall of text. I already said the drug policy was reality. AT the same time, times are changing.

 

[JBS]

unless he's doing something far more than weed, i'd hardly call smoking weed a "drug addiction". many people do cause people are too stupid to put it down, but you don't go through weed withdrawels as you do alcohol or other "addicting" drugs.

It doesn't really matter what you classify it is...it's illegal to use in the nfl...whether it's a drug addiction or a different kind of addiction really doesn't matter...

He keeps smoking..and he won't be playing...pretty darn simple

 

[dallasdave]

I get it. He was seemed genuinely sorry for his draft mistake and said all the right things to make us believe that he was going to put the doobies down and focus on becoming a dominate football player. And instead, the dude burns us and fails a few drug tests. It's irritating and ticks me off too. Especially after he said it wouldn't happen again. So I understand why people are writing him off.

But if he can lay off the chronic after he comes back, he could be a difference maker for this defense. There's a reason why he was a top 5 talent in his draft class. He's a special talent. He flashed it last preseason and before his injury last year. And he has a year under his belt now.

I think he will be a force when he comes back. He and Lawrence both. Add Collins, Thornton, Mayowa, Tapper and a healthy Crawford to those two, and I think our pass rush will be better than what people expect.

 

[Stash]

1. It's almost impossible in a quick-pass league to get sacks up the middle. Pressure from there, however, creates incompletions and interceptions. It makes QBs throw from their toes and short-arm throws. It gets in their head. We've seen it give Romo all sorts of problems. Sacks are a useless calculation because it often requires a QB be half brain-dead to hang on to the ball too long.

2. 32 teams, many of which are just as desperate as Dallas, are highly unimpressed with Hardy.

3. Mincey and Selvie. Lawrence and Tapper. Choose.

1. Any stat that blows up a fan's case, they attempt (and fail) to call "useless" or "irrelevant".

2. And 31 wanted nothing to do with him last year either. This isn't some revelation. And, again, he's a better pass rusher than anyone this team has. Whether he's an ******* or not is irrelevant to his on-filed presence and ability. I'm able to separate the two things.

3. Your claim was that nobody "relevant" to that 2014 team was no longer here. Patently shown to be false. No diverting that.

 

[Rogerthat12]

So you're trolling? You admit to having fun trying to irritate people and come at me with questions about my mood? When you turn the golden rule on its head that is not something to be proud of.

None of that is mutually exclusive with you holding a grudge and nitpicking trying to find error in my arguments. You admit that you don't engage in these types of arguments yet here you are.

What I think is that I made you feel stupid at some point by pointing out how you were wrong that is what you take issue with. You can mock fallacies and other means by which I prove you wrong but it definitely shows the crux of the issue. As much as you bring up my back brain comment, I'm guessing that was the one that did it.

You are hardly the only one that acts like this. I attract your type like flies.

You have never made me feel anything but pure laughter at your arguments and approach.

Your denial and absurd positions in the Dane Brugler argument demonstrated to me your poor use of logic while constantly resorting to ad hominem abusive fallacies.

The front brain and back brain comment, I am literally making fun of, as you use it as a utility to put down other people by stressing if they used more or less of one or the other they could see your point.

I was looking through this thread and saw a logical fallacy and asked for clarification.

Trolling is something you engage in constantly, while trying to condescend (without merit) to people all over the board while constantly committing Ad Hominem Abusive Logical Fallacies while accusing others as such.

Let us see if you can respond with out any Ad Hominem or further condescending speech, I doubt it!

 

[Doomsday101]

Nice strawman and wall of text. I already said the drug policy was reality. AT the same time, times are changing.

Times are changing and courts have already said an employer has the right to test their employees the Colorado Supreme Court has agreed as well. Players if they choose to get high that is their business but employers have rights as well and they can enact drug testing. There is no law saying one must work for the NFL, those who are able to do so have rules they must follow. Perception and image matters in the NFL. You beat your wife some employers do not care, NFL does and can hand down punishment. You get in a bar fight the NFL can act on that while some other place may not. Just claiming a substance is legal does not alter the fact the league can legally implement rules for those who play in the NFL

 

[erod]

1. Any stat that blows up a fan's case, they attempt (and fail) to call "useless" or "irrelevant".

2. And 31 wanted nothing to do with him last year either. This isn't some revelation. And, again, he's a better pass rusher than anyone this team has. Whether he's an ******* or not is irrelevant to his on-filed presence and ability. I'm able to separate the two things.

3. Your claim was that nobody "relevant" to that 2014 team was no longer here. Patently shown to be false. No diverting that.

1. There are LOTS of meaningless stats. Passing yardage often favors the losing team. Time of possession doesn't account for special teams and defensive scores. First downs don't favor big-play offenses. And pressures are far more important than sacks because the stat is arbitrary.

2. 32 teams don't ignore good pass rushers. Even Aldon Smith got offered.

3. How? Are you hanging your hat on Jeremy Mincey and George Selvie? Those are your impact players that are gone?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You have never made me feel anything but pure laughter at your arguments and approach.

Your denial and absurd positions in the Dane Brugler argument demonstrated to me your poor use of logic while constantly resorting to ad hominem abusive fallacies.

The front brain and back brain comment, I am literally making fun of, as you use it as a utility to put down other people by stressing if they used more or less of one or the other they could see your point.

I was looking through this thread and saw a logical fallacy and asked for clarification.

Trolling is something you engage in constantly, while trying to condescend (without merit) to people all over the board while constantly committing Ad Hominem Abusive Logical Fallacies while accusing others as such.

Let us see if you can respond with out any Ad Hominem or further condescending speech, I doubt it!

No grudge eh?

Now, I'm abusive yet you are carefree. You belie your narrative over and again. No wonder calls about backbrain raise your ire.

Nevermind that Bosa was the first non-QB selected.

 

[Doomsday101]

unless he's doing something far more than weed, i'd hardly call smoking weed a "drug addiction". many people do cause people are too stupid to put it down, but you don't go through weed withdrawels as you do alcohol or other "addicting" drugs.

Not to the same extent but I smoked for many years daily and when I had to quit because of testing at work there was an urge to continue and some sleepless nights. I agree not major withdraw but ithere was some effects.