Everyone needs to stop analyzing everyone and everything

yimyammer

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Everyone needs to stop analyzing everyone and everything
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Who are you? Have you always been this way? Do you always feel the need to control how people think? How was your childhood?

And when you say "everyone needs to stop analyzing everyone and everything" does that mean everyone can analyze everyone as long as they don't analyze everything or they can analyze everything as long as they don't analyze everyone?

Can god make a rock so big he cant move it?

what is the meaning of life?

why?

what time is it? why do we keep time? Why is there still daylight savings time?

where am I?

Ooh look!...a cookie!!
 

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The truth is that no matter how much Weeden sucks, or how poorly Cassel has played, or how bad a play caller Linehan has been or how poor a head coach Garrett is and even how bad an owner Jerry and son are, the fact is that you can win off of scheme alone.
The Patriots have won with their scheme for many years now. When Rodgers broke his collar bone they even won with scheme. When injuries take place and especially to the QB position the number one thing to have established is a scheme that can help a team and its QB to still move the ball and produce. We are lacking in that department. Our scheme is not good at all.

Let me give you these two stats and I am done:

1. Cassel 11-5
2. Flynn 6 TDs in one game

Cassel has not been productive since leaving the Patriots and Flynn can't even land a job.

The scheme was good enough to keep us in most of those games and give us a chance to win, the team just didn't make enough plays in the end.

Also you have to look at the opponents that we played... It has been a difficult schedule to undertake with a backup QB... All 5 of those teams are .500 or better, all 5 teams had Pro Bowl QB's, 4 out of 5 teams also had Super Bowl winning coaches... I think we'll win these next 2...
 

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Wasn't Garrett the coach with basically the same cast of characters all the other years to? One good season doesn't make him any more than an ok coach. He would be a very good GM but his coaching skills are suspect at best.

No. The 2013 Cowboys were anything but the same cast of characters. You're just engaging in the same 20/20 hindsight that has infected the fanbase. Is Garrett a good coach to go out there without his best players and win against good NFL teams? Apparently not, but neither is anyone else. If the results are the same upon Romo's return you're argument is valid, but until that happens you're basing your assessment on a distorted image that is not going to give you an accurate picture.
 

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No. The 2013 Cowboys were anything but the same cast of characters. You're just engaging in the same 20/20 hindsight that has infected the fanbase. Is Garrett a good coach to go out there without his best players and win against good NFL teams? Apparently not, but neither is anyone else. If the results are the same upon Romo's return you're argument is valid, but until that happens you're basing your assessment on a distorted image that is not going to give you an accurate picture.

He had Romo, he had Dez, He had Ware through the years. He produced one winning season with some of the best talent on this team in forever.
 

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The scheme was good enough to keep us in most of those games and give us a chance to win, the team just didn't make enough plays in the end.

Also you have to look at the opponents that we played... It has been a difficult schedule to undertake with a backup QB... All 5 of those teams are .500 or better, all 5 teams had Pro Bowl QB's, 4 out of 5 teams also had Super Bowl winning coaches... I think we'll win these next 2...

A lot of people are ignoring this. It's one thing to beat the Titans, Texans, and Jaguars without your QB and WR. It's quite another to beat teams quarterbacked by Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Eli Manning and Russell Wilson.

The situations aren't equivalent at all, but a lot of people are pretending as if they are.
 

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He had Romo, he had Dez, He had Ware through the years. He produced one winning season with some of the best talent on this team in forever.

He had a historically bad defense and guys with Cheetos bags stuffed in their shorts playing significant roles. Is leaving out contrary evidence a tic or something?
 

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Garrett has got to go if the Cowboys are serious about winning a Super Bowl before Romo finishes his career. You can't expect Romo to play a full season and we've seen how inept we're right without him. We need to bring in a coach with some level of competence and some semblance of an offensive scheme that doesn't require everything to be perfect and every player on offense healthy to be able to be efficient.

What!!!! you sound real foolish right now
 

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He had a historically bad defense and guys with Cheetos bags stuffed in their shorts playing significant roles. Is leaving out contrary evidence a tic or something?

He has a pretty good defense and is supposed to be an offensive minded coach. He can't muster up one game plan to win minus his starting QB? Others have.
 

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Keep in mind that Cassel was PUSHED/RUSHED into duty after, what, two weeks here?
Had Cassel been in training camp and begun the season here I am sure he luck would be better.

The plain truth is that teams such as the Patriots can plug in players and succeed, heck, even without Brady at times.
Other teams like the Cowboys have never mastered the craft of bringing in a emergency QB (esept for the Jimma Johnson era) and see him succeed.
It all boils down to a team that unravels when its starting QB is lost for 6-8 games. And that points to a lack of leadership from the top, and I mean Jason Garrett and not Jerra.
Jason Garrett as a assistant coach. Yep.
Jason Garrett as a HC. Not even at the college level. He's the kind of HC that a player can disrepect to his face and get away with it and then Jason say, he say "he's a passionate player. He's an intelligent player and a leader."
In high school, that is the kind of coach we'd call a weenie, yet everybody want to be in his phys ed class or history class cause we knew we could thow gum at him when his back was turned and he never esploded at us.

This is a joke right
 

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He has a pretty good defense and is supposed to be an offensive minded coach. He can't muster up one game plan to win minus his starting QB? Others have.

And who have they played? And who else have they had missing? These variables alter the equation. In Dallas' case they make the entire exercise pointless.
 

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Who are you? Have you always been this way? Do you always feel the need to control how people think? How was your childhood?

And when you say "everyone needs to stop analyzing everyone and everything" does that mean everyone can analyze everyone as long as they don't analyze everything or they can analyze everything as long as they don't analyze everyone?

Can god make a rock so big he cant move it?

what is the meaning of life?

why?

what time is it? why do we keep time? Why is there still daylight savings time?

where am I?

Ooh look!...a cookie!!

damn sugary cereals.
 

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A team that has subsequently gone 4-1 and was missing half their team in their three losses. Something about oversimplification.

You can make all the excuses you want. Our HC needs to put a few wins together under adversity. So far hasn't done it.
Now the boss is saying it's unacceptable. I hope that puts a little fire under his butt.
 
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My consistent position is that to make any judgements without all the available evidence is futile. The absences are too significant to provide an accurate result and the only available evidence had the opposite result.

That doesn't excuse the losses. It doesn't mean that it's ok. It doesn't mean that it won't submarine a promising season. It just means that any decision based on those returns is one made without all the information. Or basic logic.
 

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My consistent position is that to make any judgements without all the available evidence is futile. The absences are too significant to provide an accurate result and the only available evidence had the opposite result.

That doesn't excuse the losses. It doesn't mean that it's ok. It doesn't mean that it won't submarine a promising season. It just means that any decision based on those returns is one made without all the information. Or basic logic.

1000x this.
 

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1000x this.

That's cute, both of you are making excuses for this atrocity.

Oh no we don't have a starting quarterback guess what?

The Steelers didn't either and won two games.

They just lost their star running back too.

Don't hear their fans crying and whining about injuries.

Injuries are apart of the game. You gotta find a way to preserve and win. That's what championship teams do and it's clear this team is so far away from that.
 

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That's cute, both of you are making excuses for this atrocity.

Oh no we don't have a starting quarterback guess what?

The Steelers didn't either and won two games.

They just lost their star running back too.

Don't hear their fans crying and whining about injuries.

Injuries are apart of the game. You gotta find a way to preserve and win. That's what championship teams do and it's clear this team is so far away from that.

When did the Steelers play a game without their QB and star running back?

It didn't happen.

Did you also happen to see the Steeler offense go to crap once Bell was injured?
 

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That's cute, both of you are making excuses for this atrocity.

Oh no we don't have a starting quarterback guess what?

The Steelers didn't either and won two games.

They just lost their star running back too.

Don't hear their fans crying and whining about injuries.

Injuries are apart of the game. You gotta find a way to preserve and win. That's what championship teams do and it's clear this team is so far away from that.

They actually haven't had a game without both. The whole point is that nothing is, or can be clear under present circumstances. Oversimplification is easy. There's an easy way and the right way, but they're usually not the same.
 
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