Ex-Virginia Tech quarterback donates $10K to families

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BlueStar22;1462050 said:
the idiocy in this thread throwing Vick under the bus is sad.

its even more idiocy to glorify somebody for throwing pocket change around and using it as a publicity stunt

the guy has a 130 million contract and even if he paid the entire 10k himself (and most likely didnt if you read the article) it amounts to a whopping 300 dollars and change per family...

he's still a punk

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dbair1967;1462236 said:
its even more idiocy to glorify somebody for throwing pocket change around and using it as a publicity stunt

the guy has a 130 million contract and even if he paid the entire 10k himself (and most likely didnt if you read the article) it amounts to a whopping 300 dollars and change per family...

he's still a punk

David

When setting up a foundation to help families you normally do make it publicly known, if it is not it is hard to raise money if no one knows about it.
 

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respect for certain posters in this thread...

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Yeah, all you Vick supporters are right. He didn't have to do anything. The $10,000 was a a solid gesture.

But...

Then again, he didn't need to buy these cars either.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/10/06/024213.html

Michael Vick - Rides to Match His Success

Star quarterback Michael Vick's personal fleet has grown to include a bevy of exclusive cars and SUVs. Rattling them off with joy, he says, "I've got the Bentley Flying Spur(msrp - $170,000), the Bentley Coupe (msrp - $170,000), a Benz 500 (msrp - $56,000) and a 2006 Navigator (msrp - $55,000)." Happy to share his passion, Vick also states that his mom now has more cars than he does, including a Chrysler 300 and a Cadillac XLR convertible.

And that was from 2006.

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So to all the people bashing me for original comments. Calm down, my thoughts weren't to bash the guy for being the worst person on the planet because he only gave $10,000, but in reality I think he could have offered something more. A recent trend among high rolling athletes has been to pay for the cost of the funerals. Maybe Vick and some other alumni can get together and pay for the burial services.
 

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That's quite a fine post of sophistry you have there DCFanatic.

Unfortunately, there is no relation between how he spends money on himself or on others. It's his money, he has no obligation to give any of it to anything. Any amount he does give is commendable.

Just because he bought 100k cars doesn't mean that he has to match that for a charitable donation.
 

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Crown Royal;1462221 said:
Let's say I make 100k per year (I don't). If I give $100 to the families of VT (and BTW - I won't be giving a dime), by the logic in this thread, I am not giving enough. How much should I give? 1000.00? 10000?

What percentage of one's income is morally required to be given?

If Vick didn't give a penny it doesn't matter. He isn't morally obligated to do so.

You make no sense. He put it out there that he was donating. He is a VT alumni, you are not. He's a famous athlete who will make over $100,000,000 in his career, you will not.

Besides. The people saying he should have done more are entitled to their opinions. They want to voice opinions about what Mike Vick does, not you.

You are nothing, he is a Super Star in the sports world, lol.
 

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Some of you should be downright embarrased by your opinions. This is a positive act by Vick for his alma matter. Those who criticize his efforts need to step up and make a similar contribution. Either that or just shut up.
 

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dcfanatic;1462550 said:
You make no sense. He put it out there that he was donating. He is a VT alumni, you are not. He's a famous athlete who will make over $100,000,000 in his career, you will not.

My point is that if I made 100k, the proportion of me giving 100.00 would be the same thing. I was pointing out that he isn't OBLIGATED to give ANYTHING. That's why it was a CHARITABLE donation. No one has ANY RIGHT to claim that he didn't give ENOUGH. It is HIS money to give.

Besides. The people saying he should have done more are entitled to their opinions. They want to voice opinions about what Mike Vick does, not you.

And I am voicing my opinion of how wrong your opinion is. Voice on.

You are nothing, he is a Super Star in the sports world, lol.

Oh. So being a superstar means that you can judge on how much they are obligated to give. Get real.
 

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superpunk;1462551 said:
Not that again. :laugh2:

Wow - took me a bit to remember this reference.

That was a cool thread. By far the best thread that thread starter ever made.

Greatest. Hijack. Ever.
 

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Darren Hambrick wants to know.

What do charity mean?

Funny you should ask.

char·i·ty /ˈtʃærɪti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[char-i-tee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -ties.
1. generous actions or donations to aid the poor, ill, or helpless: to devote one's life to charity.
2. something given to a person or persons in need; alms: She asked for work, not charity.


Granted, I got this from Dictionary.com.

And, since I don't have access to Webster's Abridged Dictionary for Athletes with $100 million contracts, I can't be sure if this applies to Vick.
 

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WoodysGirl;1461068 said:
The fact that he did something at all is something to be applauded. He didn't have to. And he also help set up a special fund for others to contribute to if they're so inclined.

Doesn't matter if he gave a $1 or a $100, he gave.

WORD!
 

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dcfanatic;1461052 said:
That's his weed money for the week. He could have done a little better than $10,000 in my opinion. The man signed a contract which guaranteed him $37 mil in bonuses and will pay him $130 mil if he fulfills the entire deal.


I thought the same thing, $10,000.00 woohoo.
 

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abersonc;1462556 said:
Some of you should be downright embarrased by your opinions. This is a positive act by Vick for his alma matter. Those who criticize his efforts need to step up and make a similar contribution. Either that or just shut up.

He could have made the donation silently, no one forced him to open his piehole and tell the world he gave $10,000.00.
 

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abersonc;1462556 said:
Some of you should be downright embarrased by your opinions. This is a positive act by Vick for his alma matter. Those who criticize his efforts need to step up and make a similar contribution. Either that or just shut up.


Thats the thing here....$1.00 would be close to being a similar contribution out of most of our pockets.

I'm not embarrased by my opinion on that...it's just stating a fact. It's great he set up this fund and put in 10k...but not so great when that man makes the kind of cash that he does with his contract and endorsements.
 

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superpunk;1462574 said:
Darren Hambrick wants to know.

What do charity mean?

Funny you should ask.

char·i·ty /ˈtʃærɪti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[char-i-tee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -ties.
1. generous actions or donations to aid the poor, ill, or helpless: to devote one's life to charity.
2. something given to a person or persons in need; alms: She asked for work, not charity.


Granted, I got this from Dictionary.com.

And, since I don't have access to Webster's Abridged Dictionary for Athletes with $100 million contracts, I can't be sure if this applies to Vick.

It says that they are supposed to give a certain percentage of their pay for charity, and that 10k isn't enough when a psycho goes on a killing spree at said athlete's alma mater.

It's like a universal law or something.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;1462580 said:
He could have made the donation silently, no one forced him to open his piehole and tell the world he gave $10,000.00.

Actually a high profile guy like Vick does more good if he makes his donation public because it sets a positive example and will spur others to donate.

This is about more than just the $ it is about getting others involved.
 

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numnuts23;1462583 said:
Thats the thing here....$1.00 would be close to being a similar contribution out of most of our pockets.

I'm not embarrased by my opinion on that...it's just stating a fact. It's great he set up this fund and put in 10k...but not so great when that man makes the kind of cash that he does with his contract and endorsements.

Folks are saying he's going to make 100 mill over the course of his career. Well guess what. Someone making 40K a year over a 50 year work career would make 2 mill.

So by that math you'd have to give 2% of 10k. That's $200 to you, not $1.00.
 

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dcfanatic;1461052 said:
That's his weed money for the week. He could have done a little better than $10,000 in my opinion. The man signed a contract which guaranteed him $37 mil in bonuses and will pay him $130 mil if he fulfills the entire deal.

so? what difference does it make what success he has in life? NO ONE said what he gives, if anything, has to be proportional to his income. this isn't "tithing" (sp?) for god sakes.

the man stepped up and tried to help. figures. there's always someone who'll look for the worst even in the best of gestures.
 

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abersonc;1462595 said:
Folks are saying he's going to make 100 mill over the course of his career. Well guess what. Someone making 40K a year over a 50 year work career would make 2 mill.

So by that math you'd have to give 2% of 10k. That's $200 to you, not $1.00.

Let me see:

50 yr. career vs. 12 yr. NFL career ......... I see your math...but don't get your logic :confused:
 
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