Ex-Virginia Tech quarterback donates $10K to families

[AbeBeta]

Was it 10,000 dollars for each victim/family? 10 grand won't cover the funeral cots for all those people...I wonder if VTech will also put up some money for this unforseen tradgedy..Either way, it was a nice gesture by Vick, though if he gave more that would have been nice. (Not that I rate his worthiness by money given, but rather that funerals are so expensive and I don't think the families should have to pay for them.)

From a fundraising standpoint you don't want one person to give a HUGE amount -- that sends a message that the everday Joe shouldn't bother with a donation. Lots of people want to send in money b/c it makes them feel a little better to contribute. I assure you there is no way that there is going to be a problem raising money here.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Guys let's not go too far into a religious discussion...

 

[spindoc]

Wonder how many of the ones finding fault are "christian."

They would have seen the woman with two coins of very little value at the temple and said "keep your change, hag."

It's not about showy displays.

Love Vick or hate Vick, you don't need to bring a specific religion into this thread. Also, you may want to delete your analogy, since you just made your opponent's argument that Vick should have given more. Note: the biblical reference states that a poor woman gave two small copper coins (one penny) for offering. This act on her part meant much more than the rich people's offerings because the penny was all she had.

 

[iceberg]

Was it 10,000 dollars for each victim/family? 10 grand won't cover the funeral cots for all those people...I wonder if VTech will also put up some money for this unforseen tradgedy..Either way, it was a nice gesture by Vick, though if he gave more that would have been nice. (Not that I rate his worthiness by money given, but rather that funerals are so expensive and I don't think the families should have to pay for them.)

funerals can be around $5k and up, give or take depending on a lot of factors. recentely our family lost my grandmother and mother within the span of 4 days and the one thing that hurt the most was when outside members of the family started bickering about money and inheratance.

people died and lives were forever changed and all some people can do is rag on those trying to put some positive light on a terrible situation. they can - they're safe. they weren't a part of that tragedy and no emotional ties otherwise. maybe it even for some sad reason makes them feel better about themselves if they can put themselves into a "superior" light.

i'm out. i'm too tired of the shortsightedness of some a-holes who only want to see the worst in people and spend their lives complaining yet doing nothing for anyone but themselves.

biggest problem with our society today - illustrated by those ragging on vick.

grow up people.

 

[COWBOYSNUM1]

Wonder how many of the ones finding fault are "christian."

They would have seen the woman with two coins of very little value at the temple and said "keep your change, hag."

It's not about showy displays.

What does the fact of someone being a christian or not have to do with them being wrong for finding fault? If they are christians, does that mean they are more wrong?

 

[AbeBeta]

Guys let's not go too far into a religious discussion...

I actually don't think their discussion is off-base at all -- there are a number of moral judgements being thrown around and this seems one of the few times that such a discussion is relevant.

 

[superpunk]

Love Vick or hate Vick, you don't need to bring a specific religion into this thread. Also, you may want to delete your analogy, since you just made your opponent's argument that Vick should have given more. Note: the biblical reference states that a poor woman gave two small copper coins (one penny) for offering. This act on her part meant much more than the rich people's offerings because the penny was all she had.

It meant alot because her motivation was pure. Noone here is qualified to read Vick's motivation.

What does the fact of someone being a christian or not have to do with them being wrong for finding fault? If they are christians, does that mean they are more wrong?

If they don't believe in Christ, then the illustration wouldn't be very relevant, would it?

 

[WoodysGirl]

I actually don't think their discussion is off-base at all -- there are a number of moral judgements being thrown around and this seems one of the few times that such a discussion is relevant.

Not necessarily, but we'll see.

Your opinion is noted, though.

 

[joseephuss]

From a fundraising standpoint you don't want one person to give a HUGE amount -- that sends a message that the everday Joe shouldn't bother with a donation. Lots of people want to send in money b/c it makes them feel a little better to contribute. I assure you there is no way that there is going to be a problem raising money here.

I was just about to write the same thing.

Also, by Vick, his foundation and The United Way announcing this, it doesn't just encourage others to donate, it encourages them to donate to this specific charity. That way people donating can avoid some fly by night donation scam. I bet it wasn't Vick's own idea to announce this. People in his foundation and The United Way probably encouraged him to make it public to make it more beneficial to raising money.

Now Vick is screwed. If he does donate more money people will criticize him for only doing it in response to earlier criticism of being cheap.

No good deed will go without being scoffed at.

 

[DasTex]

Don't get yours -- he's not going to make anywhere near that amount of cash outside of football -- he'll likely live on that for the rest of his life.

He make 100 mill over his lifetime, you'll make 2 mill, unless you get a better job

Again, make your check out for $200 -- or actually more, since you think he didn't give enough.

Ok, well first of all...I donate well over $200 to various organizations throughout the year...and thats not including my church. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back...but just trying to defend my stance since you've decided that for me to criticize him for the amount...I must atleast have given such and such amounts.

Second of all...life after football still includes endorsements, appearances, and all sort of others pathways to make money due to being a former NFL star.

Like I've said...it's great that he did donate and set up this fund...good for Mike Vick and GREAT for those victims of this terrible incident. However...10k is still nothing compared to what he banks a year.

 

[Crown Royal]

What does the fact of someone being a christian or not have to do with them being wrong for finding fault? If they are christians, does that mean they are more wrong?

I want to answer this so badly but Woody's Girl will ban me for insubordination to her commandments.

 

[spindoc]

It meant alot because her motivation was pure. Noone here is qualified to read Vick's motivation.

Yes and No. She gave everything, not what she could "afford" to give. IMHO, any donation is good.

Anyway, I'm sure we all have better things to debate... how about WR vs. CB vs. LB?

 

[AbeBeta]

Ok, well first of all...I donate well over $200 to various organizations throughout the year...and thats not including my church. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back...but just trying to defend my stance since you've decided that for me to criticize him for the amount...I must atleast have given such and such amounts.

You don't know that Vick hasn't as well - in fact, I'd expect that b/c of his income bracket, he's doing a ton of donation to other sources himself.

Second of all...life after football still includes endorsements, appearances, and all sort of others pathways to make money due to being a former NFL star.

Ok, card signings and Valtrex ads. What does that add? I will give him another 40k a year. That brings your amount down to like $175.

Like I've said...it's great that he did donate and set up this fund...good for Mike Vick and GREAT for those victims of this terrible incident. However...10k is still nothing compared to what he banks a year.

And if you set up a fund with a HUGE donation it sends a message that folks don't need to give b/c you've got it covered. Is that what you want to happen?

 

[iceberg]

Ok, well first of all...I donate well over $200 to various organizations throughout the year...and thats not including my church. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back...but just trying to defend my stance since you've decided that for me to criticize him for the amount...I must atleast have given such and such amounts.

Second of all...life after football still includes endorsements, appearances, and all sort of others pathways to make money due to being a former NFL star.

Like I've said...it's great that he did donate and set up this fund...good for Mike Vick and GREAT for those victims of this terrible incident. However...10k is still nothing compared to what he banks a year.

and what he banks a year isn't any of our business and should have on bearing on what his charitable moves are through the course of his life.

you want people following you around at church and tapping you on the shoulder going "dude, i know you can do better than this"...?

there is no hard and fast moral rule that you must donate "x" % of your money to be considered a "good" person. he's trying.

i just wish whiners would shut up and try also.

 

[smarta5150]

I cant believe this thread has gone another 5 pages with posters continuing to criticize Vick.

This is so sick its not even funny.

 

[Crown Royal]

Move to retitle this the Bolshevik thread.

 

[DasTex]

Ok, card signings and Valtrex ads. What does that add? I will give him another 40k a year. That brings your amount down to like $175.

On a lighter note...that was funny

 

[COWBOYSNUM1]

It meant alot because her motivation was pure. Noone here is qualified to read Vick's motivation.



If they don't believe in Christ, then the illustration wouldn't be very relevant, would it?

Actually, the illustration was irrelevant from the time it was posted. It was a sarcastic remarks that was thrown out at people because of their beliefs. People that call themselves christians should not be singled out like you were doing. This is a Football message board, religion should not have been brought in this discussion to begin with. JMHO

 

[Doomsday101]

Ok, well first of all...I donate well over $200 to various organizations throughout the year...and thats not including my church. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back...but just trying to defend my stance since you've decided that for me to criticize him for the amount...I must atleast have given such and such amounts.

Second of all...life after football still includes endorsements, appearances, and all sort of others pathways to make money due to being a former NFL star.

Like I've said...it's great that he did donate and set up this fund...good for Mike Vick and GREAT for those victims of this terrible incident. However...10k is still nothing compared to what he banks a year.

But what does the fact that he makes x amount of dollars have to do with what he gave? Also this is not the only donation Vick makes he has helped in other causes. He has a foundation for at risk youth and has donated for other causes recently helping the family of a fire fighter who was killed in Alt. There are many things that I'm willing to fault Vick for but this is not one of them.

 

[superpunk]

Yes and No. She gave everything, not what she could "afford" to give. IMHO, any donation is good.

Exactly. But it's not like all the donations of people who gave out of their surplus were invalid. Without special heart-reading goggles, like I said, noone can judge Vick with a clear conscience.

Anyway, I'm sure we all have better things to debate... how about WR vs. CB vs. LB?

There are threads for that.