Exclusive Interview With Matt Johnson

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No you don't have the slightest idea. And in fact both players and coaches thought highly of him the year before last. Now whether or not he can get it back is another thing.

Ah, another one of those you don't know that deals.

Doubled down with the classic the coaches like him.

Fine. Meet me back here when I'm right and his career flames out.
 

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Not sure I recall seeing such negativity towards a young player who wants to be good at a position of relative need. And it's not just the injuries that people don't like about him. He's young. He might help us. He grew up in a Cowboy house idolizing Darren Woodson. There's nothing not to like other than having an emotional investment in the pretense that you know something the rest of the world does not.
 

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Ah, another one of those you don't know that deals.

Doubled down with the classic the coaches like him.

Fine. Meet me back here when I'm right and his career flames out.

No again you're wrong. I said I don't have any idea what he can do and neither do you. He may pass away quietly, be a decent sub or become a starter. You're so into your doom and gloom thing you can't even read beyond that. It all gets filtered into the you're on my side or you're one of those polyanna's. Love you dude but your schtick gets old at times.
 

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And not a single one of those fans ever mentioned him prior to that draft.

He became a small school steal the moment the Cowboys drafted him. I have no respect for that.

Do you have respect for anything? :D

I am a positive person and I am willing to give the kid a chance even though, as you say, he was not well-known nor was he highly regarded by most NFL draft experts. Personally, though, I am not expecting anything from him.
 

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Not sure I recall seeing such negativity towards a young player who wants to be good at a position of relative need. And it's not just the injuries that people don't like about him. He's young. He might help us. He grew up in a Cowboy house idolizing Darren Woodson. There's nothing not to like other than having an emotional investment in the pretense that you know something the rest of the world does not.

You call it negative. I call it an honest evaluation of his lack of ability.

Why the heck would I care who he grew up idolizing? How is that relevant as to what kind of player he is? Your own defense of him shows why you can't be taken seriously. If this kid was a Commander you wouldn't think anything of him at all.
 

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No again you're wrong. I said I don't have any idea what he can do and neither do you.

Yes I do. He can flame out of the league like the 4th round reach he was.

You can pretend I don't know. You can even tell me the coaches like him. I'll manage to recover and be right about him. There is no chance that I'm wrong. I know a stiff when I see one.

He may pass away quietly, be a decent sub or become a starter. You're so into your doom and gloom thing you can't even read beyond that. It all gets filtered into the you're on my side or you're one of those polyanna's. Love you dude but your schtick gets old at times.

Schtick. Calling bad players bad players, apparently.

Hey, how come I don't use this same "schtick" on Wilcox?
 

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Ah, another one of those you don't know that deals.

Doubled down with the classic the coaches like him.

Fine. Meet me back here when I'm right and his career flames out.

Or, if he pans out, you'll be the first to admit it the way you did with Hatcher and Bernadeau? Got it.

And it usually does mean something when coaches like a young player. I don't know why you pretend it does not, except that it runs counter to your pretense in trashing Matt Johnson in this case.
 

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You hear the same thing every year about horrible Cowboys who have no business being in the league.

You don't know that.

The coaches like him.

Why the hate for one of our players?

Same crap I read about Phil Costa.
 

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Or, if he pans out, you'll be the first to admit it the way you did with Hatcher and Bernadeau? Got it.

And it usually does mean something when coaches like a young player. I don't know why you pretend it does not, except that it runs counter to your pretense in trashing Matt Johnson in this case.

Hatcher? Did you create a situation in your mind when I said Hatcher couldn't play?

Bernadeau? You are that desperate to bring up a guy who held down the fort filling in for the guy they signed to replace him? What is Bernadeau now? Some great starting G in this league?
 

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You call it negative. I call it an honest evaluation of his lack of ability.

Why the heck would I care who he grew up idolizing? How is that relevant as to what kind of player he is? Your own defense of him shows why you can't be taken seriously. If this kid was a Commander you wouldn't think anything of him at all.

I don't believe you have any evaluation at all of Matt Johnson's ability. None. And it's not the kid's fault if he were overdrafted.

Of course I have hopes for him only because he's a Cowboy right now. So what? I have hopes for all our players. I don't have particular expectations for the player. Hopes and expectations are different, Risen.
 

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Hatcher? Did you create a situation in your mind when I said Hatcher couldn't play?

Bernadeau? You are that desperate to bring up a guy who held down the fort filling in for the guy they signed to replace him? What is Bernadeau now? Some great starting G in this league?

Ah. There we go. Predictable.
 

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And not a single one of those fans ever mentioned him prior to that draft.

He became a small school steal the moment the Cowboys drafted him. I have no respect for that.

You are 100% right. There is nothing to support the hype and hopes that surround him other than a you tube clip showing a few good plays. He has done nothing since being drafted to support the hype. Fans want the safety position fixed and he is nothing more than a hope. There is no on field production that supports any argument that he is some great talent that has been snake bitten with injuries. You tube clips are very misleading.
 

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Do you have respect for anything? :D

I am a positive person and I am willing to give the kid a chance even though, as you say, he was not well-known nor was he highly regarded by most NFL draft experts. Personally, though, I am not expecting anything from him.

I don't know of anyone outside of the Cowboys organization, a team that is woefully mismanaged without true talent evaluators at the top, that has anything positive to say about Matt Johnson. Most didn't even have him as a priority free agent after the draft.

This kid has Jerry stank all over him. That pick was so bad that I would immediately fire whoever was the driving force behind it. By a raise of hands, who thought Matt Johnson was a 4th round value? Okay, you're all fired.
 

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You are 100% right. There is nothing to support the hype and hopes that surround him other than a you tube clip showing a few good plays. He has done nothing since being drafted to support the hype. Fans want the safety position fixed and he is nothing more than a hope. There is no on field production that supports any argument that he is some great talent that has been snake bitten with injuries. You tube clips are very misleading.

Someday you'll have to point out re this hype you guys keep alluding to. I haven't seen any of it. I've seen guys hoping a small school guy the team liked enough to overdraft pans out. And can't imagine why any Cowboy fan in the world who's not defending a backwards agenda for some inexplicable reason--having a problem with that.
 

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Yes I do. He can flame out of the league like the 4th round reach he was.

You can pretend I don't know. You can even tell me the coaches like him. I'll manage to recover and be right about him. There is no chance that I'm wrong. I know a stiff when I see one.



Schtick. Calling bad players bad players, apparently.

Hey, how come I don't use this same "schtick" on Wilcox?

You don't know because the rest of the reasonable entire world doesn't know. So how is it you know the unknowable. If you want to argue his likelihood of being a starter this year is on the lower side rather than the higher side then I'm with you.

There is one thing to consider. He's been kept around with talk of hoping to get him back when a scrub would have been cut long ago. All that means is they 'think' they see something worth keeping around. Not that's not a lot but it's a helluva lot more than your take on the matter.....which is generally your take on everything.

The failure rate for all players drafted or acquired in any manner is higher than the success rate. So you can be right betting on wrong here more often than not. It doesn't make you a prognosticator of any sort.

No one knows if Wilcox is going to be a player either. He has skills only more apparent than Johnson because nobody has seen Johnson play....not of any import. You don't have to be the best athlete on the field or even at your position to be a great safety. And I don't have the slightest idea how Johnson plays athletically or in any other way compared to Wilcox or any other player.

I wouldn't bet a plug nickel on his success but that's because I have no data. And neither do you oh great Swami. Have a good one!
 

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You are 100% right. There is nothing to support the hype and hopes that surround him other than a you tube clip showing a few good plays. He has done nothing since being drafted to support the hype. Fans want the safety position fixed and he is nothing more than a hope. There is no on field production that supports any argument that he is some great talent that has been snake bitten with injuries. You tube clips are very misleading.

I'm consistent. They aren't. Had anyone drafted Matt Johnson in the 4th round I would have laughed at how bad the selection was. They would too with the exception of one team. Matt who? LOLz. But since it's the Cowboys it becomes some hidden small school gem that everybody thought so much of they felt the need to never mention him prior to the draft.

I must just hate him. Odd that I don't carry the same unjustified hate of J.J. Wilcox.
 

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This kid has Jerry stank all over him. That pick was so bad that I would immediately fire whoever was the driving force behind it. By a raise of hands, who thought Matt Johnson was a 4th round value? Okay, you're all fired.

And there we have it. It's weird, but at least we have it. This is the reason for all the hatred for this player. Makes a backwards kind of sense, at least.
 

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Someday you'll have to point out re this hype you guys keep alluding to. I haven't seen any of it. I've seen guys hoping a small school guy the team liked enough to overdraft pans out. And can't imagine why any Cowboy fan in the world who's not defending a backwards agenda for some inexplicable reason--having a problem with that.

I have a problem any time my team wastes a roster spot, and especially a draft pick, on a player who can't play.
 

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Ah, another one of those you don't know that deals.

Doubled down with the classic the coaches like him.

Fine. Meet me back here when I'm right and his career flames out.

Have you ever seen a coach come out and say that they screwed up after drafting/gambling on a small school nobody? I gave read coaches praising players right up to the day they cut them. I wish Johnson was a good player and the answer at the safety position, but he has done nothing to make me think he is.
 

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I have a problem any time my team wastes a roster spot, and especially a draft pick, on a player who can't play.

He was overdrafted. That's not his fault, and you don't know he can't play. He was also a fourth rounder.

To be clear, I'd have zero issues with you saying you had no expectations whatsoever for the player. But that's not what you're saying.
 
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