Extreme Skins... WOW!

[firehawk350]

Not denying that, however if our offense played like they're capable of playing in that game you would need a hell of a lot more then 12 points to win
Your D played one of it's best games of the season we didn't if you think that was as good as last years team was capable of playing you're delusional

If both our team bring their A game we'll win simple as that, it's not always going to be like that but that's the way it is right now, no shame in admitting that

I like the way the Skins match up with Dallas. I really think the OL for Dallas (even if Free isn't a downgrade from Flozell who wasn't exactly great the past two years) has fallen off a bit and early camp reports are exactly promising either. Colombo has lost a step and he'll have problems with Carter off the edge (Alexander is supposed to be looking great too). Free might not have too much problem with a speed rush but the word I've heard is he has a problem with strength and having Haynesworth and Orakpo (who benches over 500 lbs) isn't exactly a match-up that favors Dallas. You'll have a hard time keeping us out of your backfield.

On defense, most of the match-ups favor Dallas but I did some research (it's a bit dated) and Shanahan has typically done well against the NFC East. I don't know if Devin Thomas has really turned the corner or if Terrance Austin is just a practice player, but we have talent on offense and probably one of the best offensive minds in the game.

I am not saying we should walk, but what I am saying is I don't think it's as open and shut as you think it is.

 

[Mansta54]

I like the way the Skins match up with Dallas. I really think the OL for Dallas (even if Free isn't a downgrade from Flozell who wasn't exactly great the past two years) has fallen off a bit and early camp reports are exactly promising either. Colombo has lost a step and he'll have problems with Carter off the edge (Alexander is supposed to be looking great too). Free might not have too much problem with a speed rush but the word I've heard is he has a problem with strength and having Haynesworth and Orakpo (who benches over 500 lbs) isn't exactly a match-up that favors Dallas. You'll have a hard time keeping us out of your backfield.

On defense, most of the match-ups favor Dallas but I did some research (it's a bit dated) and Shanahan has typically done well against the NFC East. I don't know if Devin Thomas has really turned the corner or if Terrance Austin is just a practice player, but we have talent on offense and probably one of the best offensive minds in the game.

I am not saying we should walk, but what I am saying is I don't think it's as open and shut as you think it is.

The entire post....

 

[VACowboy]

I like the way the Skins match up with Dallas. I really think the OL for Dallas (even if Free isn't a downgrade from Flozell who wasn't exactly great the past two years) has fallen off a bit and early camp reports are exactly promising either. Colombo has lost a step and he'll have problems with Carter off the edge (Alexander is supposed to be looking great too). Free might not have too much problem with a speed rush but the word I've heard is he has a problem with strength and having Haynesworth and Orakpo (who benches over 500 lbs) isn't exactly a match-up that favors Dallas. You'll have a hard time keeping us out of your backfield.

On defense, most of the match-ups favor Dallas but I did some research (it's a bit dated) and Shanahan has typically done well against the NFC East. I don't know if Devin Thomas has really turned the corner or if Terrance Austin is just a practice player, but we have talent on offense and probably one of the best offensive minds in the game.

I am not saying we should walk, but what I am saying is I don't think it's as open and shut as you think it is.

Washington will be better, no doubt, but I'm not buying the idea that they overmatch Dallas' offense in game one. Carter played his way out of SF because he couldn't handle the 3-4 OLB position, and the rest of the team will be playing its first game in a brand new scheme. I don't know where you got the idea that "camp reports aren't promising" for the Dallas OL. Free has looked excellent going against two of the premier pass rushers in the league, actually showing great punch in the running game. Alex Barron has been almost as good. Colombo has lost a step? Based on what, the NFC divisional game in which he returned before his injury was fully healed? Kosier graded out as Dallas' best OL last year and has done nothing in camp to make anyone think he won't play well again in the upcoming season. Gurode and Davis went to the Pro Bowl blocking for an offense that ranked second in the League in yards gained, and nothing in camp has indicated that they are any different a year later. On the other side, Dallas returns a unit that provided one of the best pass rushes in the game and allowed the second fewest points during the regular season. They'll go against an offense with no WR's, old RBs and a rookie tackle, groomed by another new coach bringing another new scheme. It'll be Sunday of opening night in DC, and the Skins always play Dallas well, so I don't expect a cake walk. But one thing I do not see is a good matchup for Washington, anywhere.

 

[Ren]

I like the way the Skins match up with Dallas. I really think the OL for Dallas (even if Free isn't a downgrade from Flozell who wasn't exactly great the past two years) has fallen off a bit and early camp reports are exactly promising either. Colombo has lost a step and he'll have problems with Carter off the edge (Alexander is supposed to be looking great too). Free might not have too much problem with a speed rush but the word I've heard is he has a problem with strength and having Haynesworth and Orakpo (who benches over 500 lbs) isn't exactly a match-up that favors Dallas. You'll have a hard time keeping us out of your backfield.

On defense, most of the match-ups favor Dallas but I did some research (it's a bit dated) and Shanahan has typically done well against the NFC East. I don't know if Devin Thomas has really turned the corner or if Terrance Austin is just a practice player, but we have talent on offense and probably one of the best offensive minds in the game.

I am not saying we should walk, but what I am saying is I don't think it's as open and shut as you think it is.

I find it somewhat surprising that Skins fans are hearing about our o line struggles in camp when we ain't, Free got beat twice during the first few practices and since then i've not heard anything besides he run blocks good, not hearing anything is usually a good thing when you consider some of the guys he goes up against daily like Ware. Colombo sure didn't look like he had lost a step before the injury and it was clear as day that he wasn't healthy when he came back so the jury is still out on him. Barron is impressing the coaches not heard anything more then that about him either so i assume he's doing good as well

I just want to know where you are getting all these report from saying Free is having a hard time and Colombo has lost a step cause i honestly haven't seen any negative reports on our o line since like day 1 of came when Free got beat twice.

On the flip side i'd be shocked if a rookie LT playing his very first NFL game has any success at all against arguably the best pass rusher in football, Brown might have his hands full with Spencer as well, not to mention Ratliff who always seems good for 2 sacks when we play you guys.

Our skill position players on offense are just better then what you have, only position i'd give you an edge is TE because you're 2 deep. It's not 2006 any more so i've got to go with us at RB too, WR isn't even worth mentioning and QB since i'm feeling generous is a toss up

I don't think our o line is anything special but it's better then yours, who's for the most part completely unproven

On D i'd give us the edge on Dline our guys have played in this system for years and Ratliff is one of the best in the business. LB us again, DBs toss up, we got the edge at CB you have a slight edge at S

I don't really see all the match ups that favor you at all apart from maybe Orakpo on Free since he's somewhat of an unknown

If both teams play their best game we win this 10 out of 10 times, but it's Skins/Cowboys so it's never that simple. We'll see soon enough how it plays out but i have every reason to feel confident going into this game with the team we have. We're just better, there's a pretty huge talent gap between our teams right now.

 

[The Ominous]

Dillusional Skins fans. Every year it's the same crap with a different color and odor.

"But this year we have..."

"But NOW this year we have..."

ad nauseum.

I don't give a damn about the scores or what happened. You guys got swept last year and I don't see that changing in 2010.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Can't this offseason end already.

We are all clamouring for that Sunday Night matchup.

Let's settle it on the field.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I like the way the Skins match up with Dallas. I really think the OL for Dallas (even if Free isn't a downgrade from Flozell who wasn't exactly great the past two years) has fallen off a bit and early camp reports are exactly promising either.

Link?

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I can understand the Skins fans being optimistic. I'd be optimistic if I were them also. Hell, they just got their "Parcells" that we waited for for years. Unfortunately, they got their Drew Bledsoe, too. Don't get me wrong, McNabb is a better QB at this stage of his career than Bledsoe was when he came here. But, the fact remains that, he's on the wrong side of his career and he's not good enough to overcome a poor offensive line or carry a Pro Bowl backfield from 2005.

The Skins will be better this year, and that's something for their fans to hang their hats on. The whole "unlimited potential" angle is laughable, though. There are limits and they start and end with McChoke and an O-line that isn't night and day better than the unit that they sent out there last season. They did make some moves and they should be improved but there's a whole lot of question marks on the O-line.

I think one thing that will help is that the offense will be a lot less vanilla than with Zorn. Shanahan will mix things up and create room for his playmakers to make plays. I don't think it will vault them into the playoffs this year, but they'll be improved and a tough team to beat.

Please dont' ever compare McNabb to Bledsoe when he came here. McNabb is a much much much much muchhhhhhhhhhh better QB. He's still top 5 in the league until his play drops off significantly.. which i have yet to see. Its just laughable to compare him to our version of Bledsoe. As much as you probably hate him he's going to make that team alot better, combined with the new coaching staff i'd say they certainly have a chance to be a much better team this year.

Pretty sensible post for a Commanders' board if you ask me. Nothing too crazy.

And as one poster already said.. if you consider this post up against all of the "Dez Bryant.. the new Jesus Christ, savior of all humanity" posts i read here, it seems even more sensible. lol

 

[SacredStar]

Dillusional Skins fans. Every year it's the same crap with a different color and odor.

"But this year we have..."

"But NOW this year we have..."

I agree, it's getting old....really old.

And Commander fans, please try not to pipe up Haynesworth-less. The guy was a major disappointment last year, a total non-factor. And you're all proclaiming Orakpo an all-star when the guy has not played a down in a pro game yet. Crikeys, the guy could be just average or a bust....ask Tony Mandarich about that.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I agree, it's getting old....really old.

And Commander fans, please try not to pipe up Haynesworth-less. The guy was a major disappointment last year, a total non-factor. And you're all proclaiming Orakpo an all-star when the guy has not played a down in a pro game yet. Crikeys, the guy could be just average or a bust....ask Tony Mandarich about that.

Huh?? Orakpo was in the Pro Bowl last year dude.. as a rookie no less. lol

 

[arglebargle]

Nor should that December game have been close, considering the pee wee leauge offensive line we trotted out there

In round 1, our D played one of the best games of the season, without Haynesworth. If not for 2 awful kicks by Suisham, the Commanders win that game.

We beat you at the 'Our kicker is worse' game. We had Folk and Suisham!

I think Shanahan will do better with the Commanders because he's tough, and he's got the stones to make Snyder butt out. (And for his sake, hopefully he got that in writing) Still his talent evaluation is suspect, and his teams have bailed on him before.

McNabb's number has been written down here for a long time. The Cowboys know how to play him.

Of course, the first game of the season is always a more of a crapshoot, because no one's been dealing with the intensity level for half a year. And Skins-Cowboys games are always in question.

 

[SacredStar]

Huh?? Orakpo was in the Pro Bowl last year dude.. as a rookie no less. lol

Mean't Williams....thus the Mandarich comparison.

 

[Hostile]

In 2002, Dallas was 5-11 under Dave Campo. In 2003 Bill Parcells took virtually that same team to the playoffs and 10-6.

The Commanders added McNabb to Mike Shanahan. I think they have good reason for optimism. They are going to compete.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Please dont' ever compare McNabb to Bledsoe when he came here. McNabb is a much much much much muchhhhhhhhhhh better QB. He's still top 5 in the league until his play drops off significantly.. which i have yet to see. Its just laughable to compare him to our version of Bledsoe. As much as you probably hate him he's going to make that team alot better, combined with the new coaching staff i'd say they certainly have a chance to be a much better team this year.

Pretty sensible post for a Commanders' board if you ask me. Nothing too crazy.

And as one poster already said.. if you consider this post up against all of the "Dez Bryant.. the new Jesus Christ, savior of all humanity" posts i read here, it seems even more sensible. lol

McNumbnuts is top 5? Please

Manning, Brees, Brady, Roethlisberger, Romo, Rodgers, Favre, Rivers and maybe even Eli Manning are ALL better than McNumbnuts at this point in their career.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Romo also was injured in that first Commanders game and I think if he doesn't get injured, Dallas wins handily.

I think the Skins will be better. But, they are still the oldest team in the league and that's more likely to see them get injuries.

That's really been the tale of the tape for the team since Snyder has been there, old rosters. And usually it has bitten them in the arse.

Plus, say what you will about the Eagles but they've almost always made out far better on their trades with Reid there. So I'm thinking they let McNabb go to a divisional rival for a reason and it wasn't just for a 2nd rounder. They probably think he's done or at the very least they know how to stop him.

I think Shanahan has made some good moves. And he'll be tough because he is one of the best gameplanning coaches in the game. But, the moves on defense confuse me. Haslett's defenses in New Orleans were pathetic for the most part and then he went to the Rams and they were still pathetic. And he used the 4-3 in New Orleans and in St. Louis. Obviously, he has 3-4 experience with the Steelers, but something tells me he's a 4-3 guy if he ran it that long in New Orleans and then St. Louis.

I don't see McIntosh and Fletcher fitting into a 2-gap scheme. Carter tried the 3-4 once and wasn't good at it, although he's never scared me much to begin with. And still a lot of issues at safety, although I think Horton has some talent.

People do need to remember that Shanny's record in the last few years in Denver wasn't exactly stellar, and that's in the AFC West when you have 2 wins a year from the Raiders and at the time, Herm Edwards was your Chiefs coach.

I think the overall thing is that we've seen this before. The Commanders become the offseason champs, the experts tell us 'LOOK OUT FOR WASHINGTON!' and then they start off pretty well, but fizzle hard. After awhile we look like rubes for buying into this stuff.





3JACK

 

[RoyTheHammer]

McNumbnuts is top 5? Please

Manning, Brees, Brady, Roethlisberger, Romo, Rodgers, Favre, Rivers and maybe even Eli Manning are ALL better than McNumbnuts at this point in their career.

Based on what? Not statistics that's for sure..

Look at stats from the last 2 or 3 seasons and tell me McNabb's aren't right up there with the best.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

...and besides the stats, he simply wins football games. You realize how hard it is to pass the football when every single defense knows its coming? Andy Reid has never known the meaning of the phrase "running the football" and yet McNabb has still been so successful. How many QB's do you know in the last decade that led their teams to the playoffs like 8 of the 10 years? With 5 NFC championship game appearances? Half of those years with **** for WR's.

I'll take that QB anyday.

 

[Future]

They'll def be better, maybe 8-8 in Shanny's first year.

they won't win 6

 

[ajk23az]

Commanders will be a pretty decent team. 9-7. Their defense is always pretty stout and w/ McNabb at QB they definitely will have a somewhat better offense.

They always play the Cowboys tough even when Campbell was QB and I don't expect anything different week 1.

 

[The Ominous]

...and besides the stats, he simply wins football games. You realize how hard it is to pass the football when every single defense knows its coming? Andy Reid has never known the meaning of the phrase "running the football" and yet McNabb has still been so successful. How many QB's do you know in the last decade that led their teams to the playoffs like 8 of the 10 years? With 5 NFC championship game appearances? Half of those years with **** for WR's.

I'll take that QB anyday.

I take it you're a Commanders fan posing and roaming around with "ROYTHEHAMMER" and a Dat Nguyen sig.

Just like the DeadSkins, your act is tired and old. And honestly I don't give a flying piece of **** if you're a Cowboys fan or not, because in my eyes you aren't even close to one. Defending our enemies left and right. Oh, you live in Pennsylvania. Got it now.