Feels like our legacy is dwindling

[Diehardblues]

We're close to being a team that sucked as long as they were good. Some would say we have already reached that point.

So no, in my opinion there is no legacy left. We aren't just getting there. Oh, and by the way, a 12-5 season with a one and out means the team sucks. Not reaching an NFCCG for several decades means they are crap. Just to make that clear for the homers.

While I’d agree with this era , you never can take away the legacy of previous eras.

 

[J_Allen]

Then you trust this front office to find a cant miss QB in the draft?

They've been shown to draft pretty well.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Rusty I never want to discourage our great young fans of this generation . Even around the younger kids in our family I try to refrain from my very critical analysis.

They still see me as the greatest Cowboy fan they know with my lifetime of memorabilia from the glory eras with Super Bowl banners , ticket stubs and programs along with autograph photos and framed jerseys.

But they know I’m not happy with Jethro and what our franchise has become this era while still rooting our team on never missing a moment.

I also remind them that there is never any guarantee in success. And like my father told me in those early years as a kid that anyone can root for a winner , that it builds character to stay loyal to a losing or dormant team.

It will also make you appreciate one day reaching the pinnacle again if it ever comes while enjoying whatever success comes along. Look at how those Detroit fans relished in having some success this year. They have been waiting all of my life. That’s true joy that didn’t end winning a championship.

That’s what true diehard fandom is all about. Unfortunately right now we have much working against us with our dysfunctional ownership.

Personally I’m still proud of the franchise and teams we had in those years and eras. You can’t ever take that away. And I’m somewhat impressed with this unorthodox organization were even able to field a 12 win playoff team. It could be much worse.

I’m also a lifelong Baylor fan and we’ve never competed for a National Championship in football. Only won a handful of conference titles. Went 50 years in between one. There’s no shame in rooting and supporting a team that doesn’t have a lot of success especially if it’s your Alma Mater or local team. That’s simply what good loyal fans do.

Yes, and I've chosen and will continue to choose to be loyal to the Cowboys.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

And this year, I'm not sure that the Chiefs can save us. Nor am I sure it's best for our team long term.

It doesn't make a difference. Jerry doesn't care.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

https://www.liveabout.com/nfl-champions-1920-present-1335977
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_National_Football_League_championship

From 1950 to 1965, the Browns won 4 titles and lost 5 title games.

Now the Browns are a league wide joke. Cowboys have kind of been there for a while, we just didn't know it. The Paul Brown Browns were only 15 years or so before the Landry Cowboys, which was 40 to 50 years ago.

Nobody cares about the Browns anymore. That's what's going to happen when Stephen takes over and the old time fans die off unless they start winning again. Our legacy is tied to 2 coaches and that's becoming ancient history.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Would you have thought they would win another Super Bowl in the final Tom Landry years or that first year with Jerry and Jimmy? If you did you were one of the very few

All teams go through periods like that. I thought we'd eventually get good again. Fast forward to now. Jerry has convinced me that this is as good as it gets. I'm more demoralized now than I was back then. Maybe it was because I was younger. I know don't think I'll ever see the Cowboys win another SB.

 

[LonnieElam]

Ah, so you're the kid we have to protect with the language filters, huh?

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Ah, so you're the kid we have to protect with the language filters, huh?

No, I don't need language filters. Not sure where this is coming from.

Nobody cares about the Browns anymore. That's what's going to happen when Stephen takes over and the old time fans die off unless they start winning again. Our legacy is tied to 2 coaches and that's becoming ancient history.

I could see this happening. The question then becomes, does Stephen sell the team or fold the team?

 

[Setackin]

Boycott​

 

[blueblood70]

For me, at least the Eagles got there. We haven't been there. I want to see us get beyond the NFCD at some point.

Dude it's not for you all of us want that but there is no at least they got there I get what you're saying but it was short lived and they lost... I would love to get to that area but there aren't a lot of teams that are doing this all in thing that are making these giant moves it's usually the teams with the most money in the salary cap the most draft picks that take the highest risk and those are usually the teams that are on the bottom not on the top it is very unusual to do what the Rams and Eagles did....

And I realized the 49ers have made some decently big moves but the thing they locked in the most is they tripped over their quarterback they did not make a smart choice drafting Trey Lance with three first round picks and they got lucky they had just accidentally stumbled upon Brock Purdy that was not a plan and without him I guarantee none of the other moves work as well as it is right now it's the whole thing that matters..

And like I said the Cowboys have made those types of moves in the past or at least similar outside of Christian McCaffrey but he alone is not got him in the Super bowl that would be finding your quarterback and then having a defense and all the other stuff and yes I hope that they make some more moves this year they don't need to be a bunch of moves maybe one bigger move in free agency and truly drafting best player available in getting studs this year versus trying to fill role plays when you're a 12 win team picking at the bottom of the draft it's very difficult to find those players and I believe they thought that getting role players future players for depth was more important and maybe that was a misstep now that we have hindsight to look at it...

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I know I'm 31, so I probably don't know as much about the Cowboys legacy as many of you. I was around for the Cowboys SBs in the 90s, but I was too little for the sport at the time. That said, this has been a rough season for me as a Cowboys fan. I'm always going to be a Cowboys fan, and it pains me to say what I'm going to say.

It feels like our legacy is dwindling. You might be asking what legacy I'm referring to. It's the legacy that we were a franchise that could match talking points with the 49ers and Steelers. The Steelers passed us years ago, and that was a blow to our legacy over them. Now, the 49ers are threatening again (lost their two previous attempts) to pass us. Meanwhile, Kansas City, should they win, will be at 4 and beginning to threaten our 5. I think I'm forced to (and will) pull for Kansas City to try to protect our 5 and being level with SFO, but I'm really hoping the 49ers don't have 3rd time's the charm to pass us. It feels like it'd shred what's left of the Cowboys legacy if they do the unthinkable this year. Maybe I'm off base, but it's just how I feel about this matchup. I don't know if any of you feel a similar sentiment to me.

Plus, I'm not sure how Jerry would respond. He didn't do much when Pittsburgh passed us. Will he respond if SFO does? He hasn't done much with how they've beaten us in our 3 previous encounters. I sense that them winning would probably hurt Jimmy a lot because it feels like it'd undo a bit of what he built in the early 90s. Will it hurt Jerry the same?

I suppose, and this is just me feeling my sentiments that I feel like sharing here on this forum, maybe it can cause some last bit of healing between Jerry and Jimmy? If SFO does the unthinkable, could it cause Jerry to turn to Jimmy for advice? Can Jimmy become somewhat of a GM? He seems to like McCarthy. Maybe Jimmy can be a helping hand for Jerry? Will Jerry respond at all if SFO does the unthinkable? All I know, from the time I realised that the Cowboys were likely playing the Packers in the playoffs, this has become one of the most painful seasons as a Cowboys fan for me. The 49ers winning this SB would hurt a lot to me. I have absolute disdain for them because of our rivalry with them. I just wish that Jerry had that same disdain.

What do you all think of the current developments? Do any of you feel a similar sentiment? Does our legacy matter to Jerry at all? Sure, he wins in Forbes. But this should be a matter of pride in what he's built. He probably doesn't have long to live. Is he now going to watch the very team he tried to beat after the 80s ruin what's left of his legacy? Could this force a change?

what legacy? for 28 years we have been one of the worst performing post season teams in the league. literally. the 90s and 70s are too far back for some to even remember. some of the fans weren't even born then.

 

[OmerV]

It's probably a lot of the older fans. If Jerry doesn't change course, this won't stay the case much longer. Frankly, with the Taylor Swift craze, I can see a team like KC overtaking us there. I can see a scenario where, in 5-10 years, we are no longer in the top 5 most popular teams.

And older fans passing it down to their kids. But yeah, that will start fading with time unless the team takes another step from getting to the playoffs to seriously competing in the playoffs. The media keeps a lot of it fueled.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Boycott​

the ardent fans may do this. but they are not the ones who bring in the money. the fringe, casual fans who support the team and care about the experience more than the results are the ones that bring in the money. that's who Jerry caters too. not you. not me. not some of the older and ardent fans on this board. as one of them said, he doesn't spend any money on cowboys anyway. so Jerry doesn't care about him.

 

[LonnieElam]

No, I don't need language filters. Not sure where this is coming from.

They say this is a family-friendly site, where even posts with filtered words get deleted (which makes ZERO sense), but you're more than likely the youngest one here. There are no 8 year olds here that don't need to read bad words.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Interesting question that I have not understood until now
Are the fans a fan of the franchise from the time they have been a fan or the entire history?

That's up to the fan. I have no major problem with Cowboys fans that ignore or mostly ignore the Landry years as long as they acknowledge that those were the basis for being America's Team, and don't try to claim the Jones years were better.

Though personally I judge teams by their entirety...

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Exactly, and you'd think he'd do everything possible to achieve this with the amount of extra money he'd make.

As long as it's under his control, though. That's the thing, his ego won't let him do what's really necessary, until the elusive SB win comes around again.
At that point, if he's still around, I suspect he'd hire a general manager since he'd have "proved his point"...

 

[Cowboys5217]

how do quantify that? How much more were the 1980's trying than today team?

I lived through and watched both. I never, ever got the impression that the Cowboys weren't serious back then like I do today. The game passed up Landry and the Cowboys finally fell off after such a long time as a contender.

What we have today is not a serious football franchise. It's just a media company.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

They say this is a family-friendly site, where even posts with filtered words get deleted (which makes ZERO sense), but you're more than likely the youngest one here. There are no 8 year olds here that don't need to read bad words.

I think there are a few younger ones on here, but it just goes to show the state of this team that those of us in my age range are fewer and farther between now.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Dude it's not for you all of us want that but there is no at least they got there I get what you're saying but it was short lived and they lost... I would love to get to that area but there aren't a lot of teams that are doing this all in thing that are making these giant moves it's usually the teams with the most money in the salary cap the most draft picks that take the highest risk and those are usually the teams that are on the bottom not on the top it is very unusual to do what the Rams and Eagles did....

And I realized the 49ers have made some decently big moves but the thing they locked in the most is they tripped over their quarterback they did not make a smart choice drafting Trey Lance with three first round picks and they got lucky they had just accidentally stumbled upon Brock Purdy that was not a plan and without him I guarantee none of the other moves work as well as it is right now it's the whole thing that matters..

And like I said the Cowboys have made those types of moves in the past or at least similar outside of Christian McCaffrey but he alone is not got him in the Super bowl that would be finding your quarterback and then having a defense and all the other stuff and yes I hope that they make some more moves this year they don't need to be a bunch of moves maybe one bigger move in free agency and truly drafting best player available in getting studs this year versus trying to fill role plays when you're a 12 win team picking at the bottom of the draft it's very difficult to find those players and I believe they thought that getting role players future players for depth was more important and maybe that was a misstep now that we have hindsight to look at it...

I get what you're saying, but even in the last offseason after Zeke got cut (which I had no problem in it of itself), I was raising concerns about our run game. I had concerns that Pollard wouldn't be enough. The LB group was thin as it was. I was wanting them to beef up the Lb group a bit more, and I wanted the best running back they could get. Fast forward to now, I hope shutting down the run when we are on defence and beefing up our running game is a priority this offseason. Every QB needs a reliable running game. Look at the Chiefs this year. Especially with their WR issues, they wouldn't be where they are now without Pacheco.

 

[Rockport]

All teams go through periods like that. I thought we'd eventually get good again. Fast forward to now. Jerry has convinced me that this is as good as it gets. I'm more demoralized now than I was back then. Maybe it was because I was younger. I know don't think I'll ever see the Cowboys win another SB.

Bitterness has changed this dudes life.