Fellow "No Zeke at 4!" Posters: How will you react if it's him?

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Chuck 54

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You don't know what you're talking about.

Claiborne carried just as high of a grade in his draft as Ramsey does this year. You just think he didn't.

And guys like Trent Richardson and Blair Thomas carried grades similar to Elliott. There's no way you think Ramsey will be the bust that Mo has been. He could be, but no one is looking at him and making such a ridiculous comparison, Zeke could end up a burnout who goes bust because he'd rather party, but no one is predicting it
 

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Ill put my prediction against yours.

I predict Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner, and Elliott will all be very successful in the NFL.

Mo was a high ranked CB, but no one called him a generational athlete or accused him of being too physical at times.
 

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You don't know what you're talking about.

Claiborne carried just as high of a grade in his draft as Ramsey does this year. You just think he didn't.

I concur he was the top CB in his draft and I will admit I was pretty darned excited when that trade was announced cause I knew they were going with Mo "don't practice" Claiborne. The scouts and fans had him pegged wrong. Ramsey is a top talent but the Mo experience has me very pessimistic if he is the choice.
 

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You don't know what you're talking about.

Claiborne carried just as high of a grade in his draft as Ramsey does this year. You just think he didn't.

Claiborne was hurt his first several years.

Value is objectively measured by the market. The relative values of the position as held by clubs are evident. Your conflation of the the two positions as if its all or nothing is cute even if a typical oversimplification.
 

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Ill put my prediction against yours.

I predict Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner, and Elliott will all be very successful in the NFL.

Mo was a high ranked CB, but no one called him a generational athlete or accused him of being too physical at times.

I do remember them talking up his return abilities as well. The only thing he has consistently retuned to is the injury report.
 

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Yep and the playmaker is preaching that same tune. What scares me is all this Zeke and Ramsey smoke we are reading and hearing. Watch them take Bosa...maybe I should start a thread about what the non bosa crowd will do if he gets drafted....

That'd be the longest thread the site has ever had since there's only about 3 people on here who have Bosa as their first choice at #4.
 

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I concur he was the top CB in his draft and I will admit I was pretty darned excited when that trade was announced cause I knew they were going with Mo "don't practice" Claiborne. The scouts and fans had him pegged wrong. Ramsey is a top talent but the Mo experience has me very pessimistic if he is the choice.

I dug out an old 2012 draft guide magazine that says Claiborne projected as a better pro than ex-LSU teammate Patrick Peterson. Cue the laughter. These guys get paid to write this stuff.

To be fair, Mo hasn't really been healthy since Dallas drafted him (remember he came in with the wrist). He wasn't awful last year (regardless of what Pro Football Focus says) and maybe, just maybe, the Cowboys' refusal to give up on him gets rewarded in 2016.
 

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Yep and the playmaker is preaching that same tune. What scares me is all this Zeke and Ramsey smoke we are reading and hearing. Watch them take Bosa...maybe I should start a thread about what the non bosa crowd will do if he gets drafted....

Ramsey's the pick. If he's there at 4, it's a done deal. They can't help themselves.
 

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I dug out an old 2012 draft guide magazine that says Claiborne projected as a better pro than ex-LSU teammate Patrick Peterson. Cue the laughter. These guys get paid to write this stuff.

To be fair, Mo hasn't really been healthy since Dallas drafted him (remember he came in with the wrist). He wasn't awful last year (regardless of what Pro Football Focus says) and maybe, just maybe, the Cowboys' refusal to give up on him gets rewarded in 2016.

Nice I wanted to quote that as well as I did remember that talk but didn't feel like researching to back it up. Thanks for finding it and I get what your saying about Mo's health. Why about two years in I started calling him mo don't practice Claiborne. For comparison sakes I think Ramsey is a better athlete but Mo just proves the risk you take with some of these guys. I won't be upset if they go that way he just isn't going to have the impact Zeke will have.
 

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Ramsey's the pick. If he's there at 4, it's a done deal. They can't help themselves.

Well if that is true going to be interesting to see where he fits in. If they are thinking safety they can go that route with Joseph later on and still go impact with Zeke.
 

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I think drafting a RB to run behind this line at #4 is just a complete waste of resources. However, I also think this kid will be a really good back so I can't be mad at them for adding talent to the team. I just see about 4 or 5 other positions I would try to add talent to before I thought about a RB. But once he is a Cowboy, I will be in his corner and pulling for him to be the best RB ever.
 

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Elliot wouldn't be my first choice, but you have to admit that the model of a great RB running behind a dominant offensive line with a franchise QB and WR has traditionally been successful in Dallas whether that was the 70's, 90's or 2014.
 
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