FileSonic disables file sharing in wake of MegaUpload arrests

[Zaxor]

I’m not completely sold that loss of revenue can be tied to file-sharing. Perhaps is due to the crap music that’s put out nowadays—a direct result of the corporate music scene.

While I agree about a lot of crap music today... I can easily see the loss of revenue now the sum may be up for debate.

 

[iceberg]

I hear ya my friend loud and clear...and it isn't fair to the artists not one doubt about that...but again at what point is the line drawn and if someone rips it and sends it ...was it any different for those in the postal business when the telegraph came online and "digitalized" mail... using technology shouldn't be a crime... and again lending of stuff has always been from mankind's beginning to present day so how can you stop the lending of media...If you make it an exception and have special rules than others will want that exception also because fair is fair.

but this problem is way over my paygrade... I haven't the foggiest of a clue to set it right but I fully understand both sides and in this instance they are both right imho.

my guess is the next step is if you want it, you "subscribe" and get it all. access to what you want to watch or listen to is the real question moreso than ownership.

i told a friend of mine that years ago and he spent the night pounding on physical things and stressing ownership and pretty much told me i was stupid.

i think he's starting to see what i mean.

it will be like a monthly bill and you watch what you want, listen to what you want to listen to. how the $ gets divided up will be like radio, who got the most plays/hits.

 

[Zaxor]

my guess is the next step is if you want it, you "subscribe" and get it all. access to what you want to watch or listen to is the real question moreso than ownership.

i told a friend of mine that years ago and he spent the night pounding on physical things and stressing ownership and pretty much told me i was stupid.

i think he's starting to see what i mean.

it will be like a monthly bill and you watch what you want, listen to what you want to listen to. how the $ gets divided up will be like radio, who got the most plays/hits.

great idea bro I hope it works out that way...now off topic I got a link for ya that you might like

http://www.tg4.ie/en/tg4-player/tg4-player.html

click on this show Tigh an Cheoil it is episode 6 (2 part) the language is Galic the music is old Irish and scottish celtic music... I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

 

[JustDezIt]

hopefully none of you guys owned vcrs or cassette players and copied copyrighted property. hope you sent your nickel every time you played that song you got from the radio.

 

[iceberg]

hopefully none of you guys owned vcrs or cassette players and copied copyrighted property. hope you sent your nickel every time you played that song you got from the radio.

yea, cause if you did it once, you can never stop doing it can you.

again, the whole cassette argument is butt-nugget stupid. like i said, the entire digital distribution makes piracy a MUCH bigger issue than you are trying to make it be.

if you bypassed all i said on it, go back and read. NOT the same comparison at all, but hey - it makes modern day pirates feel better when they argh at the old timers.

 

[Dallas]

hopefully none of you guys owned vcrs or cassette players and copied copyrighted property. hope you sent your nickel every time you played that song you got from the radio.

Somebody didn't even read the thread.


typical...





of the user

 

[JustDezIt]

yea, cause if you did it once, you can never stop doing it can you.

again, the whole cassette argument is butt-nugget stupid. like i said, the entire digital distribution makes piracy a MUCH bigger issue than you are trying to make it be.

if you bypassed all i said on it, go back and read. NOT the same comparison at all, but hey - it makes modern day pirates feel better when they argh at the old timers.

i will admit i got a lil bit bored reading on about page three, so i might have missed some things. but ill stand by if downloading a song is stealing, taping a song from an open source. Mediocre artists have suffered because they put out mediocre product and people are no longer forced to pay 20 bucks for the three songs they like on the CD. Are there not still multimillionaire music artists? Whats the going rate for a top of the line movie star? 20-25 million a movie? did avatar make a billion dollars? not to mention that the artists never made their money off the physical product anyways. i'm not going to argue oer the legality or morality of it, to each his own. my point is, i never thought when i was a kid an borrowed the jetsons meets flinstones movie vhs from my neighbor, that he taped off tv, that i was a thief or a pirate.

Put out high quality product, you'll make yours regardless of file sharing.

 

[Dallas]

i will admit i got a lil bit bored reading on about page three, so i might have missed some things. but ill stand by if downloading a song is stealing, taping a song from an open source. Mediocre artists have suffered because they put out mediocre product and people are no longer forced to pay 20 bucks for the three songs they like on the CD. Are there not still multimillionaire music artists? Whats the going rate for a top of the line movie star? 20-25 million a movie? did avatar make a billion dollars? not to mention that the artists never made their money off the physical product anyways. i'm not going to argue oer the legality or morality of it, to each his own. my point is, i never thought when i was a kid an borrowed the jetsons meets flinstones movie vhs from my neighbor, that he taped off tv, that i was a thief or a pirate.

Put out high quality product, you'll make yours regardless of file stealing.

You break the law based on w/e justification you can think up to MAKE YOURSELF feel better about BREAKING THE LAW.

This behavior is RAMPANT in our society and why our country is going down the toilet. This is an entitlement behavior right here folks, don't think it is anything other than that. You don't "think" you are hurting the industry therefore its ok to do so?

Wrong!!!

Hey folks....I feel Avatar made enough money therefore I FEEL like stealing it for my own use. Who cares if its copyright material? I want what I want.

This behavior goes way beyond just copyright infringement. This sort of behavior manifests into anything being open season, just as long as DezDoZIt feels its his god given RIGHT to take it.

That's a spooky response...sad to say...

 

[iceberg]

i will admit i got a lil bit bored reading on about page three, so i might have missed some things. but ill stand by if downloading a song is stealing, taping a song from an open source. Mediocre artists have suffered because they put out mediocre product and people are no longer forced to pay 20 bucks for the three songs they like on the CD. Are there not still multimillionaire music artists? Whats the going rate for a top of the line movie star? 20-25 million a movie? did avatar make a billion dollars? not to mention that the artists never made their money off the physical product anyways. i'm not going to argue oer the legality or morality of it, to each his own. my point is, i never thought when i was a kid an borrowed the jetsons meets flinstones movie vhs from my neighbor, that he taped off tv, that i was a thief or a pirate.

Put out high quality product, you'll make yours regardless of file sharing.

let me tell you about faktion.

[youtube]RDoSLlmYyd4[/youtube]

this was one of the first major bands i started working with. great bunch of guys who were signed by roadrunner and hit the road with the likes of hinder and rev theory.

one night i was talking to marshall before they went on locally and he said while on tour people would come up to him and ADMIT they were stealing their music.

this music cost them a ton in studio time and money. it's an investment to be sure and a very risky one just to get noticed, much less paid.

much less earn the respect to buy their work vs just take it cause you like it.

before long roadrunner drops faktion citing low sales. if all the people who downloaded their music actually bought it, they'd still be around.

back then you couldn't "steal" nearly as easily but hey, people love to run to that connection cause stealing is stealing. of that i don't disagree, but the level that the digital age makes it easy, this is NOT the same comparison. in 1988 i don't think i could even hit what, 14.4 on a modem?

million dollar artists. well this lets you bypass reality and go straight to fantasy land. now many artists do you think make millions in sales these days?

i'll wait - name some that are not part of pop culture and we'll talk.

this is not "back then" this is today and a whole new world. every comparison i see people make to the 80s just tells me how stupid they are in 2012.

 

[bbgun]

LOL @ the people who are trying to rationalize outright theft. "They wouldn't let me test drive the game, so naturally I had to steal it. There was no other way!" I'm no stranger to illegal downloads either, but at least I know what I am.

 

[iceberg]

LOL @ the people who are trying to rationalize outright theft. "They wouldn't let me test drive the game, so naturally I had to steal it. There was no other way!" I'm no stranger to illegal downloads either, but at least I know what I am.

bb and i strongly agree on something.

i need a shower. >g<

 

[JustDezIt]

You break the law based on w/e justification you can think up to MAKE YOURSELF feel better about BREAKING THE LAW.

This behavior is RAMPANT in our society and why our country is going down the toilet. This is an entitlement behavior right here folks, don't think it is anything other than that. You don't "think" you are hurting the industry therefore its ok to do so?

Wrong!!!

Hey folks....I feel Avatar made enough money therefore I FEEL like stealing it for my own use. Who cares if its copyright material? I want what I want.

This behavior goes way beyond just copyright infringement. This sort of behavior manifests into anything being open season, just as long as DezDoZIt feels its his god given RIGHT to take it.

That's a spooky response...sad to say...

sharing is caring.
i honestly dont care if i am hurting the industry or not.
this is the reason our country is going down the drain?
and to say that this manifests itself into worse behavior is ludicrous.
been about ten years of downloading now, bout time i graduate to burglary.
better log off cz cause you are affiliated with a site that posts " " for cowboys fans unable to access otherwise.
and if you ever, ever taped ANYTHING, jump off that high horse, thief

 

[iceberg]

sharing is caring.
i honestly dont care if i am hurting the industry or not.
this is the reason our country is going down the drain?
and to say that this manifests itself into worse behavior is ludicrous.
been about ten years of downloading now, bout time i graduate to burglary.
better log off cz cause you are affiliated with a site that posts " " for cowboys fans unable to access otherwise.
and if you ever, ever taped ANYTHING, jump off that high horse, thief

we're on a high horse while you say it's your right to steal?

get off the cross man, we need the wood. winter is coming.

my "holy hell idiots are alive and well" list grew today.

seems you went from "if it's good and quality people will buy it" to "i don't give a damn about you, i'm taking it".

the lord must love fools cause he put a lot here.

 

[Dallas]

LOL @ the people who are trying to rationalize outright theft. "They wouldn't let me test drive the game, so naturally I had to steal it. There was no other way!" I'm no stranger to illegal downloads either, but at least I know what I am.

Thank you BB. That's really all I am saying. You can't justify stealing.

Stealing is stealing is stealing.

No matter if its a pack of gum off the shelf of your local quick stop. You still will be stopped and taken aside by the police if caught.

You cant say..

"Well dang...there was 33 packs left. That's enough, so I took mine."

 

[JustDezIt]

let me tell you about faktion.

[youtube]RDoSLlmYyd4[/youtube]

this was one of the first major bands i started working with. great bunch of guys who were signed by roadrunner and hit the road with the likes of hinder and rev theory.

one night i was talking to marshall before they went on locally and he said while on tour people would come up to him and ADMIT they were stealing their music.

this music cost them a ton in studio time and money. it's an investment to be sure and a very risky one just to get noticed, much less paid.

much less earn the respect to buy their work vs just take it cause you like it.

before long roadrunner drops faktion citing low sales. if all the people who downloaded their music actually bought it, they'd still be around.

back then you couldn't "steal" nearly as easily but hey, people love to run to that connection cause stealing is stealing. of that i don't disagree, but the level that the digital age makes it easy, this is NOT the same comparison. in 1988 i don't think i could even hit what, 14.4 on a modem?

million dollar artists. well this lets you bypass reality and go straight to fantasy land. now many artists do you think make millions in sales these days?

i'll wait - name some that are not part of pop culture and we'll talk.

this is not "back then" this is today and a whole new world. every comparison i see people make to the 80s just tells me how stupid they are in 2012.

again, when did artists really ever make much off album sales? tour tour tour. keep making good music, keep touring, keep making good money.

for instance, take montel jordan. had 2 or 3 hits, 15 years ago. can still pull 20k a show. the executives are the ones losing out, the reason they are forcing 360 deals now so they can get a cut of the tour.

http://prettypolly.com/artist-availability.php#

 

[Dallas]

sharing is caring.
i honestly dont care if i am hurting the industry or not.
this is the reason our country is going down the drain?
and to say that this manifests itself into worse behavior is ludicrous.
been about ten years of downloading now, bout time i graduate to burglary.
better log off cz cause you are affiliated with a site that posts " " for cowboys fans unable to access otherwise.
and if you ever, ever taped ANYTHING, jump off that high horse, thief

Hahah you are welcome any ole time to make me jump off it. You are clearly wrong in this but refuse to call yourself a a thief because of it, yet you come back and spin on a hot plate to make it appear like you aren't doing anything wrong.

I already said I wasn't a saint way back in this thread. I know I was stealing and downloading when I was a runt, thus why I stopped when I did after viewing it in a different light. What I was doing was wrong and that it actually did bother me to know I was taking music/games/apps from someone who worked very hard for his/her material.

Since you aren't a creative person who gets his/her funds from that creativity, you cannot even comprehend the issue.

Its education and understanding really, something you clearly lack my friend.

 

[iceberg]

again, when did artists really ever make much off album sales? tour tour tour. keep making good music, keep touring, keep making good money.

for instance, take montel jordan. had 2 or 3 hits, 15 years ago. can still pull 20k a show. the executives are the ones losing out, the reason they are forcing 360 deals now so they can get a cut of the tour.

http://prettypolly.com/artist-availability.php#

you have no idea what you're talking about and are totally incapable of understanding the issue.

please go back to the kiddie pool.

 

[JustDezIt]

we're on a high horse while you say it's your right to steal?

get off the cross man, we need the wood. winter is coming.

my "holy hell idiots are alive and well" list grew today.

seems you went from "if it's good and quality people will buy it" to "i don't give a damn about you, i'm taking it".

the lord must love fools cause he put a lot here.

did i say it was my right? i said i really dont care what any of you think of me and i dont really care about the impact it has on the MPAA or the RIAA. you have the right to disagree, i wont hold it against you. smoking pot is illegal, but i dont call every pot smoker a dirtbag criminal who should be thrown in jail for peddling dope to our kids.

 

[JustDezIt]

you have no idea what you're talking about and are totally incapable of understanding the issue.

please go back to the kiddie pool.

please explain further oh knowledgeable one. you were affiliated with a band who didnt put out enough good music to sustain a fanbase - so its downloaders fault?

 

[iceberg]

did i say it was my right? i said i really dont care what any of you think of me and i dont really care about the impact it has on the MPAA or the RIAA. you have the right to disagree, i wont hold it against you. smoking pot is illegal, but i dont call every pot smoker a dirtbag criminal who should be thrown in jail for peddling dope to our kids.

so when do smokers also sell to kids?

the connections you make amaze me, but then again, most villiage idiots do.

i care about the impact is has on the overall industry and getting new bands to give a damn enough to make the investment to be the next generation of bas arse music.

you just wanna download and be happy. you go do that i'm done with you.