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Typhus

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No. We can restructure his deal where we move $5 million (essentially the amount we'd save to cut him).

Well, technically, we could restructure him for more. He has a $10.9 million base, so if we cut his base down to $900,000, then we could turn the $10 million into bonus and prorate it over four years ($2.5 million per year). That would cut his cost next year from $16.75 million to $9.25 million ($7.5 million savings against the cap), but the cost to cut him the next year would increase to $13.5 million, still less than the $14.3 to keep him, so cutting him in 2024 would still be a salary cap savings, but not much.

However, if we made $7 million into bonus instead, then we'd have $5.25 move into the next three years (2024-26). That would mean 2023 reduces to $11.5, which is lower than what we'd save to cut him. Then if we cut him the next year we'd save $3 million against the cap.

We're still going to eat a lot of dead cap, but it just depends on when you eat it. If Elliott has a year like 2021, then you cut him and take the nearly $5 million in cap savings. If he plays the full year like he was before getting hurt last year, you can restructure knowing that you can save money in 2023 and still cut him in 2024 if you necessary at a cap savings. You could probably even re-sign Pollard with the amount saved restructuring Elliott. But I'm not expecting that. I expect us to either keep Elliott or Pollard depending on how they play.
Just dont understand why you want to keep investing in Zeke, hey great if you feel you cant replace him than I guess they might feel pressured into another cap dump.
There comes a time when you need to start addressing the position, esp when you got two RBs that can leverage you.
We can probably find a stop gap vet cut upgrade for RB3 still this year, but next draft this roster will need a 2/3rd round RB.
 

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It is beginning!
Me hopes arise and me frustrations subside!

Fish thinks Sequel Elliott may be seeing his last rodeo with the Cowboys. Yes, lads, click bait, but Fish has other nuggets.



Gimmie--- prediction win loss record this year?....mine is either 10-7 or 11-6....and i realize its optomistic
 

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That is your hope, but not likely. And again, it all depends on how efficiently he goes about his job. If its at 4 ypc like last year and the year before, that wont get it done.

Fact of the matter is the Cowboys have already mentioned that they were thinking about drafting RB's this year. Jerry can get real excited about his new toys and you know RB will be a big need going into the draft next year.

I would also love for someone to give us a scenario where restructuring Zeke's contract can even be done with a big savings. Is that even possible? I think any big savings would have to be an extension and I dont see the Cowboys doing that.

Its highly likely they cut Zeke and draft some new studs to take over.

your thoughts on current 3rd team Rico Dowdle?
 

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Just dont understand why you want to keep investing in Zeke, hey great if you feel you cant replace him than I guess they might feel pressured into another cap dump.
There comes a time when you need to start addressing the position, esp when you got two RBs that can leverage you.
We can probably find a stop gap vet cut upgrade for RB3 still this year, but next draft this roster will need a 2/3rd round RB.

Typhus what is your thoughts on 3rd team Rico Dowdle?
 

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Dowdle is next up on the hot seat.
Just call him bubble boy.
 

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Typhus what is your thoughts on 3rd team Rico Dowdle?
His lone highlight reel was a kick return, think it got called back.
Point being if you cant remember any significant moments than we need to find someone worthy.
We need the depth to say the least.
 

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His lone highlight reel was a kick return, think it got called back.
Point being if you cant remember any significant moments than we need to find someone worthy.
We need the depth to say the least.

he is not soft
 

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he is not soft
He is still on the roster, so I hope he can but Im just saying that he is no lock, there isnt a RB other than Zeke and Pollard that are locks on this roster.
Its wide open.
 

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10-7.
Two losses alone will come via the Eagles and TWT.

i have this feeling both TWT and Philly will have injury bug and on top of it not be able to get timing right between QB and receivers.....after i watched how Stephen Jones wrecked off season i had to go into

la la land .....where my best friend is Winnie the Pooh bear
 

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I hate math but 1000 yards divided by 17 games is 58 yards a game and 8 TD’s in 17 games doesn’t exactly conjure up memories of Gayle Sayers .

cute dog....i'll even bet he or she is a cowboy fan?
 

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i have this feeling both TWT and Philly will have injury bug and on top of it not be able to get timing right between QB and receivers.....after i watched how Stephen Jones wrecked off season i had to go into

la la land .....where my best friend is Winnie the Pooh bear
Is that the double platinum injury guarantee?
 

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That was last year he lost 10 lbs. He said nothing about this year.

Let's not quibble about the time frame -- as long as he reports in shape, it's ok with me.

I know you'd like to see him disappear but that's not happening. We need a 3rd RB, tho.
 

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Elliot's contract makes that a strong possibility. We'd save $5 million against the cap. If he somehow played a real high level, though, a restructure would also be a possibility. We could easily lower his cap hit by $5 million-plus and still be able to cut him in 2024 at a cap savings.
He knows this. If he stays healthy he will play hard. And if they restructure they maybe able to save a little more than 5 million.. I see a big year from him coming..
 

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Man you have no stones!!

NO WAY IS ZEKE HERE next year!

Heck, his ego alone would never allow it to happen. Zeke is so set on personal statistics that he would never stay here and share the load. 4 things would have to happen:

1. Zeke would have to have a monster season
2. Pollard would have to have a bad one and NOT resign
3. Zeke would have to take a monster pay cut
4. Zeke would have to accept that he will now be sharing carries in a RB by committee and wont be guaranteed the starting job

What do you think are the odds that all 4 of those things happen?
If Pollard has a good year in his limited role he will want a big paycheck. Not sure even if we cut Elliot if we would pay Pollard the money. Likely another 2-3 round draft. I think if Elliot does well we keep him another year. 5 million isn’t much savings if we can have a high level RB.
 

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If Pollard has a good year in his limited role he will want a big paycheck. Not sure even if we cut Elliot if we would pay Pollard the money. Likely another 2-3 round draft. I think if Elliot does well we keep him another year. 5 million isn’t much savings if we can have a high level RB.

Zeke is gone. Pollard I could really care less about. His career has largely been wasted. If they finally use him correctly and he blows up, then yah he will be over priced. Wouldnt that be just like the Cowboys eh? LOL

I dont think Pollard resigns either way. Would you resign with a team that basically let you rot on the bench while some slow, old RB played ahead of you?

I think we see a RB taken in the 2nd or 3rd round or two backs taken. Or we see Pollard and a 2nd rounder going into next season.
 
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