Fish: What if it's Gibbs, not Bijan Robinson?

[CATCH17]

That is like saying why spend a first round pick on an OL when you can just get a guy to block in the 6th round, if that’s what you want.

Clearly, the first round guys are a lot better players.

I believe there is a very big difference between Gibbs and backs that can be had in the mid-rounds, obviously, or you’re right… I wouldn’t want to spend a late first on him. What Gibbs has in his physical traits and what he has with his vision and instincts, isn’t an easy combination to find, IMO.

But, I understand that you don’t want to use a first round pick on him, and I understand why. It is something that you aren’t alone on, for sure.

It is something that I agree with much of the time. However, in this case, I just think he’d be worth the pick.

I’m ready to find out what the team is actually going to do. They very well might agree with you.

I just know that after our playoff game players and fans were screaming that we need more playmakers.

You add Jamyr Gibbs and you’ve done that.

When Alabama couldn’t get anything going they turned to that guy and he was instant offense.

He’s a potential Chris Johnson / Jamaal Charles type of electric player and at times we desperately need that.

Pollard can definitely be that guy but do you really want to pay him and if he goes down then what? Back to a sluggish run game?

 

[AsthmaField]

YOu cant run your drafts based on what Philly might do. They have the #1 Oline in the NFL and a much more complete offense. WE cant afford to burn a first round pick on a back. STill need to fix the Oline.

Or what Buffalo might do. If you think someone might pick your guy right after you trade back, then yeah, you absolutely take that into account, or you’re going to lose your guy.

It has nothing to do with the fact that Philly is a division rival. It has everything to do with losing your target.

If you have a few guys that you like, then sure, trade back some… but if it’s one guy that you are targeting, and you think Buffalo right after you will take him, then you don’t trade back.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Deuces dad is a key scout for the Cowboys. I fully expect them to find a way to take him late.

People compare him to Sproles, but I don’t believe Vaughn is as game changing as Sproles was.

I hope they can. Living in Kansas and seeing him play, he is electric with the ball in his hands.

The Sproles comparison will always be there because they both went to K-St. Vaughn isn't Sproles but he's close.

Here is an idea. Use Vaughn as your return guy and get a true WR to take Turpin's roster spot.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Lol @ carry the load.

Nobody cares about that anymore.

Christian McCaffrey can’t carry the load anymore and he was just traded for a kings ransom.

Jamyr Gibbs is a guy that can score from anywhere on the field with just a simple dump off.

When Dak Prescott is your QB then a guy like this who you can get the ball to easy is invaluable.

You don't draft a first round player for 15-18 plays per game. If that's the trend in NFL as you are insinuating, then all the more reason not to draft RB in the first round.

 

[CATCH17]

You don't draft a first round player for 15-18 plays per game. If that's the trend in NFL as you are insinuating, then all the more reason not to draft RB in the first round.

He’ll get more then 15-18 plays a game.

15-18 Carrie’s a game he will not but 15-18 touches he should after his rookie year.

15 -18 Carrie’s is carrying the load now days.

We don’t have an elite QB so an explosive run game and great blocking is what’s going to have to carry us because Dak has proven for 7 seasons he can’t do it with his arm come playoff time.

Bryce Young is the #1 pick in the draft and all that guy did was check the ball down to Gibbs.

You guys want a ho hum TE to check it down to? I’d rather check it down to this guy.

 

[BlindFaith]

1st round picks should be a combination of elite measurables and elite production. Throw in a track record of not being injury prone, hard worker, good character etc.

Gibbs, to me, is one of few guys who check off those boxes. He may be a bit lite, but he will add some weight over time. He replaces Pollard next year.

End of round 1 seems like the sweet spot for drafting tier 1 rbs. Gives you that 5th year option. Then you move on. Second, high dollar contracts for a back simply dont work out.

I really like Forbes as well. Give him a year under Gilmore.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Or what Buffalo might do. If you think someone might pick your guy right after you trade back, then yeah, you absolutely take that into account, or you’re going to lose your guy.

It has nothing to do with the fact that Philly is a division rival. It has everything to do with losing your target.

If you have a few guys that you like, then sure, trade back some… but if it’s one guy that you are targeting, and you think Buffalo right after you will take him, then you don’t trade back.

You said if we dont take them Phily will at 30. So your sending mixed messages here.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

He’ll get more then 15-18 plays a game.

15-18 Carrie’s a game he will not but 15-18 touches he should after his rookie year.

15 -18 Carrie’s is carrying the load now days.

It's not about carries with him..........touches. 15-18 carries + 5-8 pass-receiving targets = 20-26 touches

 

[Chuck 54]

Many of you hated the Tyler Smith pick last year because of everything you read and heard….not a first rounder, too many holding penalties, poor technique. Now everyone loves the pick.
Yes, I get that we all have an opinion. My opinion is the only players I would want at #26 is an OL or a CB.
I don’t like the LBs or the DTs or the TEs or the WRs in round 1. My favorite TEs are Musgrave and Washington.

But whomever the Cowboys select in round one, even a RB, I’ll be excited about because they’ve studied the players more than any of us, understand the scheme fits and offensive plans better than any of us, and they’ve earned that right in recent drafts.

 

[CATCH17]

1st round picks should be a combination of elite measurables and elite production. Throw in a track record of not being injury prone, hard worker, good character etc.

Gibbs, to me, is one of few guys who check off those boxes. He may be a bit lite, but he will add some weight over time. He replaces Pollard next year.

End of round 1 seems like the sweet spot for drafting tier 1 rbs. Gives you that 5th year option. Then you move on. Second, high dollar contracts for a back simply dont work out.

I really like Forbes as well. Give him a year under Gilmore.

Nick Saban said that Gibbs was the best best he’s ever coached at setting up blocks.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I know it's Fish but I've been asking the same question. I mean could he be the player they are hiding? He's such a great pass catcher that you could argue using him as an RB, slot receiver and/or WR. Imagine moving his kind of speed all around the offense.......with Pollard on the field. LOL, defensive coor would be like ........

Cowboys Draft RB Rumor: What If It’s Jahmyr Gibbs, Not Bijan Robinson?​

The Dallas Cowboys have been rumored to be interested in Texas Longhorns star Bijan Robinson, but what if Dallas takes a different running back in Alabama's Jahmyr Gibbs?

• ADAM SCHULTZ
• 19 HOURS AGO

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...-jahmyr-gibbs-not-texas-bijan-robinson-eagles

Another nothing article from Fish, who is floating a rumor based on some dudes mock

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Another nothing article from Fish, who is floating a rumor based on some dudes mock

I get that........but the NO ONE knows what teams are going to do. Here's Howie Roseman's response ........he's right, everyone is just guessing


The weeks leading up to the NFL draft are filled with lies, false flags and shell games as clubs try to jockey for positioning.
Amid the fibs told during each club's pre-draft press conference, Eagles general manager Howie Roseman offered the most honest quote of lying season.
"This is a huge game of poker, and all you want to affect is the outcome of your desired results," Roseman said Thursday. "Am I going to give you guys any answers today? No, not even a little bit. But I think the reality of it is anyone who's sitting there and saying, 'Hey, I know exactly what's going to happen at pick 11 or pick 12 or pick 6 or 20, it's all a guess."

 

[Beaker42]

Drafting Gibbs just makes a ton of sense.

Will be the reason we DON’T do it.

 

[KJJ]

Fish is terrible he predicted Zeke wouldn’t be released. The only way the Cowboys take an RB with their first pick is if Robinson is there.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Gibbs is an elite receiver. Elite speed on outside rushes. Has an extra gear at top that Pollard doesn’t. That’s no knock on Tony as he’s yet to be caught from behind.

He’s the X factor you put him out there and defenses don’t know to stop him.

He takes the screens, the tosses, runs routes etc.

If you watch film and Alabama struggled, they would give him the ball and he’d make plays.

Sure, but doesn't Archane provide almost the same thing as well? I mean, I like Gibbs, but, if a player like Mayer or Miller are on the board, I'm taking Mayer or Miller. I'd love it if we went Mayer, Becton, and Archane with our first 3. We'd have the best TE (who also serves as an extra tackle on running plays) to create the deadliest TE trio in the league, we'd have a NT that can shut down other running games, and then a 3rd round version of Pollard who provides very similar skills to Gibbs. Thus, we could still replace Pollard next season if needed, but we'd also be able to solve other problems too.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Will be the reason we DON’T do it.

That and Mayer makes a lot of sense too, knowing that Archane provides almost as much as he does.

 

[CATCH17]

Sure, but doesn't Archane provide almost the same thing as well? I mean, I like Gibbs, but, if a player like Mayer or Miller are on the board, I'm taking Mayer or Miller. I'd love it if we went Mayer, Becton, and Archane with our first 3. We'd have the best TE (who also serves as an extra tackle on running plays) to create the deadliest TE trio in the league, we'd have a NT that can shut down other running games, and then a 3rd round version of Pollard who provides very similar skills to Gibbs. Thus, we could still replace Pollard next season if needed, but we'd also be able to solve other problems too.

This is fair.

I don’t get how Achane is getting overlooked.

He’s not as smooth as Gibbs but is just as explosive.

 

[cowboyec]

1 or the other...i'd take bijan.
but gibbs is an excellent back.
explosive.
i'd love that pick.
but in my opinion...robinson is better.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

This is fair.

I don’t get how Achane is getting overlooked.

He’s not as smooth as Gibbs but is just as explosive.

Exactly, and he also provides, along with Tre Tucker from Cincy who I want in round 5/6, return options. How nice would it be to have Turpin, Archane, and Tucker as our returnmen?

 

[AsthmaField]

Sure, but doesn't Archane provide almost the same thing as well? I mean, I like Gibbs, but, if a player like Mayer or Miller are on the board, I'm taking Mayer or Miller. I'd love it if we went Mayer, Becton, and Archane with our first 3. We'd have the best TE (who also serves as an extra tackle on running plays) to create the deadliest TE trio in the league, we'd have a NT that can shut down other running games, and then a 3rd round version of Pollard who provides very similar skills to Gibbs. Thus, we could still replace Pollard next season if needed, but we'd also be able to solve other problems too.

No Achane doesn’t.

The only thing Achane has that Gibbs has is speed. His run instincts, vision and contact balance aren’t close to what you get with Gibbs. That’s not even talking about catching the ball, which Gibbs is exceptional at.

The ability to run fast does not make a RB a good player. Much of what makes a RB good is between his ears.