Fisher - Are Cowboys Too Optimistic On Dez Surgery?

[MRV52]

Really Fisher? Come on every athlete is different and recovers differently. Julio Jones looked pretty good to me last night.

 

[CCBoy]

Not true.
This frx has almost nothing to do with range of motion.
It simply needs to fully heal before weight-bearing stress is exerted, like lateral movements.
Of course, those cuts and spins and quick stops are the bread and butter for a WR, so they just have to wait and not come back too soon.
The Cowboy Docs won't let that happen and jeopardize the post-season.

You go, Doc...but my question would be this: Does this factor move wide receiver up very high for next year's draft?

 

[Doc50]

The opinion of someone "in the medical field" is about as valid as a fan's opinion about his football team, for the most part. The difference between Joe Schmuck's quality of treatment for an injury and a world class athlete's quality of treatment for the same injury is night and day in most cases, both in terms of the treatment itself and the ability of the injured to recover. Having said all of that, the team will do what is in the team's and Dez's best interest in regards to his return. They will not rush him back, even one day too soon.

The quality of care or type of repair is the same for everyone with this fracture. While he is an elite athlete whose body is healthy and should heal optimally, the risk of prolonged complications is a bit higher, due to the player's tendency to stress it too soon.

He's gonna have to cool his jets for a while.

 

[Plankton]

At this point, I don't expect to see Bryant back until at least mid-November.

Time for Escobar to step it up. I can see the Cowboys going to more 2 TE sets along the lines of the Patriots when they had Hernandez and Gronkowski on the field at the same time (a little different since Hernandez was more of an H-back). I think that this is the best shot the Cowboys have at creating mismatches.

 

[LandryFan]

The quality of care or type of repair is the same for everyone with this fracture. While he is an elite athlete whose body is healthy and should heal optimally, the risk of prolonged complications is a bit higher, due to the player's tendency to stress it too soon.

He's gonna have to cool his jets for a while.

I understand your stance on this and appreciate your response. If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that if I get an identical injury and go to my physician/surgeon to get it fixed there is no difference in the quality of treatment I would get as opposed to the quality of treatment Dez got...I'll certainly take your opinion over mine, but based on what you're saying, all doctors/surgeons/aftercare are created equal...am I misinterpreting? If that's the case, then the Cowboys are paying probably paying premium $$ for standard care...doesn't make sense to me.

 

[perrykemp]

I understand your stance on this and appreciate your response. If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that if I get an identical injury and go to my physician/surgeon to get it fixed there is no difference in the quality of treatment I would get as opposed to the quality of treatment Dez got...I'll certainly take your opinion over mine, but based on what you're saying, all doctors/surgeons/aftercare are created equal...am I misinterpreting? If that's the case, then the Cowboys are paying probably paying premium $$ for standard care...doesn't make sense to me.

[Not a Doctor] My read of his statement is that there isn't much different that can do for an athlete than a normal person off the street in the case of a small broken bone in the foot.

Basically, it doesn't matter who you are -- they cut it open, they insert the screw, the close it up, and wait for the bone to heal.

 

[T-RO]

Cowboys always under estimate the time frame

Agreed. And Jones has also been known to come out and say, "It's nothing...He'll play next week..." right after a major injury that knocks somebody out for quite sometime.

 

[Doc50]

I understand your stance on this and appreciate your response. If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that if I get an identical injury and go to my physician/surgeon to get it fixed there is no difference in the quality of treatment I would get as opposed to the quality of treatment Dez got...I'll certainly take your opinion over mine, but based on what you're saying, all doctors/surgeons/aftercare are created equal...am I misinterpreting? If that's the case, then the Cowboys are paying probably paying premium $$ for standard care...doesn't make sense to me.

Of course, his access to aftercare and follow-up and personal rehab would be more comprehensive, but a lot of that quite frankly is babysitting.

The procedure itself, in the hands of a skilled surgeon, is held to the highest standards -- not by JJ, but by state medical boards and licensing organizations and by courts of law. If the surgeon is unskilled or inattentive, he will end up parting ways with his livelihood and most of his investment portfolio.

A botched surgery on a professional athlete would generate in an incredibly high settlement; only the best surgeons are willing to take that risk, but they certainly will not be following any technical advice from outsiders, including owners.

 

[Wayne02]

Right. The Packers won't get Jordy Nelson back at all this year and they are fine. Dez is a big loss, but the offense has enough playmakers that we will be okay.

The Packers still have Randall Cobb and Devante Adams.

 

[LandryFan]

[Not a Doctor] My read of his statement is that there isn't much different that can do for an athlete than a normal person off the street in the case of a small broken bone in the foot.

Basically, it doesn't matter who you are -- they cut it open, they insert the screw, the close it up, and wait for the bone to heal.

Understood. Thanks for responding!

 

[LandryFan]

Of course, his access to aftercare and follow-up and personal rehab would be more comprehensive, but a lot of that quite frankly is babysitting.

The procedure itself, in the hands of a skilled surgeon, is held to the highest standards -- not by JJ, but by state medical boards and licensing organizations and by courts of law. If the surgeon is unskilled or inattentive, he will end up parting ways with his livelihood and most of his investment portfolio.

A botched surgery on a professional athlete would generate in an incredibly high settlement; only the best surgeons are willing to take that risk, but they certainly will not be following any technical advice from outsiders, including owners.

Gotcha. Thanks for lending your expertise on the situation. Much appreciated!

 

[DTown214]

Ok I'm officially done listening to anyone about this injury. I just heard 18 weeks.

 

[texbumthelife]

I sincerely would not bat an eyelash if they put him on IR. He won't be back before week 8.

 

[Joe Realist]

The more I think about it, yes. He will miss at least half the season.

 

[EMMITTnROY]

Does anyone know the earliest that someone has come back from this injury?

 

[Doc50]

The more I think about it, yes. He will miss at least half the season.

That's realistic, Joe.

 

[mldardy]

Does anyone know the earliest that someone has come back from this injury?

Kevin Durant is the quickest one I've heard of but there was a re-injury

On October 12, 2014, Durant was diagnosed with a Jones fracture in his right foot and was ruled out for six to eight weeks.[63] He went on to miss the first 17 games of the 2014–15 season before returning on December 2 against the New Orleans Pelicans.[64] On December 18, he injured his ankle against the Golden State Warriors,[65] returning to action on December 31 against the Phoenix Suns to score a season-high 44 points.[66] He then sprained his left big toe in late January.[67] On February 22, he was sidelined again after undergoing a minor procedure to help reduce pain and discomfort in his surgically repaired right foot,[68] and on March 27, he was officially ruled out for the season after deciding to undergo foot surgery.[69] In just 27 games, he averaged 25.4 points, 6.6 rebounds and 4.1 assists per game.

 

[perrykemp]

Does anyone know the earliest that someone has come back from this injury?

It's a bit of trick question since what I think you really want to know is what is the earliest anybody has come back from this injury and not re-injured shortly thereafter.

I don't know. Good question.

 

[kramskoi]

3,581 yds and 28 TDs...one is in an Eagles uniform...the other looks to be on the shelf for 8 weeks and diluted for a few weeks after that. That is some serious loss of production from last year. The remaining guys have some big shoes to fill.

This may end up being the year where Romo either silences his most recalcitrant detractors, who cite a vaunted running game for his stellar numbers, or he regresses toward a slightly less heroic season.

 

[kramskoi]

At this point, I don't expect to see Bryant back until at least mid-November.

Time for Escobar to step it up. I can see the Cowboys going to more 2 TE sets along the lines of the Patriots when they had Hernandez and Gronkowski on the field at the same time (a little different since Hernandez was more of an H-back). I think that this is the best shot the Cowboys have at creating mismatches.

Linehan, at the very least, should experiment with this formation, which also adds versatility for running the ball...if the defense goes light, then run...heavy, then pass.