Flozell Adams vs. Doug Free

[Eskimo]

LOL @ not wanting to strip down just a few of the obvious irrelevant statistics due to the "slippery slope" argument, only to then dive belly first on a Clark Griswold-greased snow sled down the incline.

Total yards? Dallas. More productive QB? Dallas. More productive receivers? Dallas. More productive rushing game? Dallas.

But yeah, they obviously have a much better offense and we can only hope to achieve such dominance through better drafting.

Whatever. Good night.

This game is all about points - yards mean much less than points. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand football at all. SD scores nearly a touchdown more per game than us - case closed. They have a much better offense than us.

Good night indeed.

 

[Eskimo]

I not running Hurd outta town - I just think he will get a offer we will not match - I like to get a PR an KR plus a WR that can take Crayton's place when his deal is up

I'd like to keep Hurd since he knows the offense, plays ST well, Romo is comfortable with him when he comes in the game. He also won't be a UFA at the end of the season so why are you so worried about us losing him? (In the uncapped year you have to have completed 6 years in the league to be a UFA, not four years as was the case previously).

So Hurd and Austin should both be here next year. I don't know how much they will be paid. I wouldn't be surprised if we work out some sort of a 1 year offer for Austin to let him prove himself for awhile longer before we give him a big 5 or 6-year deal.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Dont get too attatched to players.

I love MB3, but history would indicate hes got a handful of years left.

I appreciate Spears, but wont cry if hes not re-upped.

Flo should be cut next year. Theres no cap so this is your chance to get out before he falls off the cliff.

Many LT's can do what this Flozell does. Make rushers run around you and hope Romo makes him miss.

 

[Eskimo]

Dont get too attatched to players.

I love MB3, but history would indicate hes got a handful of years left.

I appreciate Spears, but wont cry if hes not re-upped.

Flo should be cut next year. Theres no cap so this is your chance to get out before he falls off the cliff.

Many LT's can do what this Flozell does. Make rushers run around you and hope Romo makes him miss.

Flo is pretty marginal these days. If Bledsoe were the QB presently he would have probably given up 15 sacks before the end of the season. If you look back at how few sacks he was responsible for when Bledsoe was here you get a quick idea of how much better he was back then. Last year he allowed 7.5 sacks and this year so far he has allowed 7 sacks according to one site that trackes these things. In his good year in 2003 he allowed only 4.5 sacks against Bledsoe. In 2007 (his contract year) he allowed only 3.5 sacks. It looks like he has definitely slipped towards mediocrity the last couple of years despite having one of the most elusive QBs in the game.

Interestingly, they have Columbo only giving up 1 sack, Kosier 2 sacks, Davis 4 sacks, Free 1 sack. I assume some of the others were more along the lines of team sacks or charged against RBs or TEs.

 

[burmafrd]

until he got injured Flo was as good in 2008 as he was in 2007. This is the first year that while healthy he looks like he is slipping. He is still a top 15 LT and maybe close to top 10. Free has proven nothing at LT and for that keep claiming he will play better there then at RT you can bleat all you want but until he actually does it it means NOTHING. You can talk about muscle memory, or whatever. Until he does it none of it means a thing. Last year even a one armed flow with an infected hand was playing all the time instead of them giving Free even a couple of snaps. So I rather doubt that Free has gotten so much better in less then a year that he can play LT easily. Certainly he has improved- but I really doubt he has improved THAT Much.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

IMO, Free is a slightly above averege at either tackle spot right now. He'll never posses the strength required to be a great RT, but with some more work in the weight room, he can become a pro-bowl level LT. His biggest weakness is these speed rushes who "can't bull rush," set you up all game, getting you off balance, then bull rush you to the QB.

 

[theogt]

This game is all about points - yards mean much less than points. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand football at all. SD scores nearly a touchdown more per game than us - case closed. They have a much better offense than us.

Good night indeed.

It's interesting that you feel that way about scoring. Because your original point was that they had a better top pair of receivers than us.

Well, our top two receivers have scored nearly twice as many touchdowns as their receivers (17 to 10).

You tried to indirectly slam Roy Williams and got burned for it.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It's interesting that you feel that way about scoring. Because your original point was that they had a better top pair of receivers than us.

Well, our top two receivers have scored nearly twice as many touchdowns as their receivers (17 to 10).

You tried to indirectly slam Roy Williams and got burned for it.

At this point of the season I think the Dallas offense matches up quite favorably to San Diego's.

San Diego has had the advantage of Norv Turner. And while I'm not big on Norv as a coach, I think he can still school Jason G. on how to run an offense... At least up to what we saw in the New Orleans game, which was one of the best game plans I've seen in a while.

In addition, it took until the 5th game of the season for the best receiver on the Cowboys to get any meaningful snaps.

But like I said as of right now, I think both offenses are very good.

 

[jobberone]

I'd have to give the nod to SD due to points scored but either offense is pretty good. There's not a lot of difference. We just need to work on scoring the ball more. In the past we scored nearly 80 pts per 1000 yds of offense. We're not at that level right now but easily could be.

 

[burmafrd]

gotta give the edge to Norv, both as OC and HC.

 

[Eskimo]

It's interesting that you feel that way about scoring. Because your original point was that they had a better top pair of receivers than us.

Well, our top two receivers have scored nearly twice as many touchdowns as their receivers (17 to 10).

You tried to indirectly slam Roy Williams and got burned for it.

It wasn't really so much about RoyW as it was about their explosiveness and ability to put points on the board. I initially thought it was their receivers who did it but it turned out it was Jackson and Gates and not Jackson and Floyd. We need another explosive player to match up with them - for this season our best shot is Felix stepping up here. There have been some signs of increasing his use - if he gets that last little bit of burst back then maybe he can do that for us and put defenses in a bind.

Roy is someone I'll just have to get used to because Jerry probably isn't going to cut or trade him right after he did the same thing with TO - too much of a hit to pocketbook and ego.

For that reason, it is up to Felix to become that second explosive player we need.

 

[Eskimo]

At this point of the season I think the Dallas offense matches up quite favorably to San Diego's.

San Diego has had the advantage of Norv Turner. And while I'm not big on Norv as a coach, I think he can still school Jason G. on how to run an offense... At least up to what we saw in the New Orleans game, which was one of the best game plans I've seen in a while.

In addition, it took until the 5th game of the season for the best receiver on the Cowboys to get any meaningful snaps.

But like I said as of right now, I think both offenses are very good.

One of the best game plans you've seen managed to put up 24 points. I think NO gives up 21 ppg on average. If Folk makes that FG that gives us 27 points which is much more respectable being 6 points above average points NO has allowed this year per game. We'll have to see is Suisham gives us the consistency we have been seeking.

 

[Eskimo]

gotta give the edge to Norv, both as OC and HC.

I think most of the difference is Norv. If he were here he would be forcing teams to defend Felix and Austin. When teams overcommit there the ball would go to Witten and Roy who should be single covered all-game. I think we score 7 ppg more with Norv than we do with Garrett and that is a big difference in a league where games are so close.

 

[Eskimo]

I'd have to give the nod to SD due to points scored but either offense is pretty good. There's not a lot of difference. We just need to work on scoring the ball more. In the past we scored nearly 80 pts per 1000 yds of offense. We're not at that level right now but easily could be.

Our offense is really underperforming in the opponents side of the field. Part of the lack of points is Folk and part of it is penalties. Lately it just seems as though the points have been very hard to generate. If we could just add one more longish touchdown a game we would be where SD is right now.

 

[jobberone]

I think most of the difference is Norv. If he were here he would be forcing teams to defend Felix and Austin. When teams overcommit there the ball would go to Witten and Roy who should be single covered all-game. I think we score 7 ppg more with Norv than we do with Garrett and that is a big difference in a league where games are so close.

I won't argue with this. I do think Garrett can learn to do better. And he has in the past.

Nobody has yet to comment on a fact I keep throwing out there which is vitally important to us. We are not scoring near the 80 points per 1000 yds of offense. We did in 07. I haven't looked at SD but I bet they are near that goal.

We're getting the yards but not the points this year. Failure to score in the red zone is going to hurt our chances in the playoffs where games will likely be closer and opposing teams will likely convert more points per visit than not.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I won't argue with this. I do think Garrett can learn to do better. And he has in the past.

Nobody has yet to comment on a fact I keep throwing out there which is vitally important to us. We are not scoring near the 80 points per 1000 yds of offense. We did in 07. I haven't looked at SD but I bet they are near that goal.

We're getting the yards but not the points this year. Failure to score in the red zone is going to hurt our chances in the playoffs where games will likely be closer and opposing teams will likely convert more points per visit than not.

I agree, Jason Garrett needs to improve his play calling, specifically within the 20 yard line. Jason Witten should have more than 1 TD by now.

 

[Eskimo]

I won't argue with this. I do think Garrett can learn to do better. And he has in the past.

Nobody has yet to comment on a fact I keep throwing out there which is vitally important to us. We are not scoring near the 80 points per 1000 yds of offense. We did in 07. I haven't looked at SD but I bet they are near that goal.

We're getting the yards but not the points this year. Failure to score in the red zone is going to hurt our chances in the playoffs where games will likely be closer and opposing teams will likely convert more points per visit than not.

SD is scoring 28.7 ppg and gaining 359.8 yards

so (28.7/359.8)*1000= 79.8 points per 1000 yards

Dallas is scoring 22.9 ppg and gaining 394.5 yards/game

so (22.9/394.5)*1000= 58 points per 1000 yards

 

[jobberone]

I agree, Jason Garrett needs to improve his play calling, specifically within the 20 yard line. Jason Witten should have more than 1 TD by now.

I don't know if its Garrett or execution. I'd say both.

 

[Eskimo]

I agree, Jason Garrett needs to improve his play calling, specifically within the 20 yard line. Jason Witten should have more than 1 TD by now.

It is ridiculous that Garrett can't design plays to get the ball to Witten even though he has great hands, great size and can catch the ball in tight quarters. I've seen other TEs almost go down and setup like that are in the post in the NBA and scoring like that.

 

[casmith07]

Can't believe I started a 12-pager.

Lots of NFL scouts and coaches in here