For all the criticism Dak Prescott gets

[817Gill]

Whether or not it was because of some other reason, "he's starting to figure it out"/"he has more freedom with his playcalling" etc., I don't know. But he's clearly not a fluke at this point. Nobody in the media is talking about him like he's a fluke anymore. He's legitimately taken seriously now. And I think it's time for Cowboys fans to hop on that bandwagon too.

That’s the crazy thing to me because the media has honestly stopped saying he couldn’t play, he is a legit NFL guy. Usually the media craps on our guys and the fans defend them, with Dak for some reason is the other way around.

 

[CowboyRoy]

i dont see it as a problem so much as growth. its up to the coaches to work with or against it. When Romo started, he was a gun slinger turned pocket passer. Some qbs can do taht, others cant. Dak is a mobile qb, play to his strenghts, gauage him ad work with it or get rid of him. I like him but for Dallas to advance it will take the team to help. This organization is nnot streamlined enough. I like some of the changes, but a lot more has to happen.

IT is growth. But that's why most young QB's are held back. Because they need to mature. YOUNG QB's are often an issue.

 

[Whirlwin]

His second season the entire offense was in turmoil. I don't think people realize how important it is have a unified locker room. Not that they weren't playing as a team it was just a lot of unknowns headaches back and forth because of Elliot. I like Prescott

 

[Whirlwin]

That’s the crazy thing to me because the media has honestly stopped saying he couldn’t play, he is a legit NFL guy. Usually the media craps on our guys and the fans defend them, with Dak for some reason is the other way around.

Romo was such a respected quarterback it was like how did this rookie come in and take over for him. I don't think he'll ever get his proper respect. Other than maybe a championship. And even then who knows who they'll give the credit to. I believe in Prescott I believe he's a winner can I trust him when he has the ball in his hands last

 

[Whirlwin]

Dak looked totally different after the Cooper trade.

I suspect he will put up big TD #s if we can find a TE to threaten the middle of the field

I think Jason Witten is going to be a safety net he's going to be a red zone machine this season I could be wrong but I totally believe he's going to make the difference. When we get into the red zone

 

[817Gill]

Yeah but even Brees and Rodgers need help. Their receiving groups are stacked. Brady is the one argument guys can make for not having elite options around him but he does have a elite head coach.

People forget Brees went 7-9 for 3 straight seasons, while Rodgers has missed the playoffs the last 2 years. These are established HOFers too.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I think Jason Witten is going to be a safety net he's going to be a red zone machine this season I could be wrong but I totally believe he's going to make the difference. When we get into the red zone

Let's hope cause we we're # 26 last season .....another reason why Dak is Great!

NFL Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only)
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Season:
Date:
Rank Team 2018
1 Pittsburgh 73.47% 55.56% 33.33% 80.00% 66.67% 53.03%
2 Kansas City 73.08% 80.00% 100.00% 72.73% 73.53% 45.28%
3 Cincinnati 71.11% 55.56% 0.00% 65.38% 78.95% 55.81%
4 New Orleans 68.42% 60.00% 40.00% 75.61% 60.00% 61.29%
5 Indianapolis 67.14% 53.85% 0.00% 80.00% 57.50% 40.00%
6 Cleveland 66.67% 50.00% 50.00% 64.00% 69.57% 48.72%
7 Seattle 65.52% 66.67% 66.67% 65.52% 65.52% 55.56%
8 LA Chargers 64.41% 75.00% 100.00% 64.00% 64.71% 46.81%
9 Arizona 64.29% 50.00% 50.00% 57.14% 71.43% 41.67%
10 Atlanta 64.00% 60.00% 75.00% 77.27% 53.57% 49.18%
11 Chicago 63.16% 55.56% 0.00% 65.52% 60.71% 60.61%
12 New England 62.86% 76.92% 100.00% 70.00% 53.33% 62.65%
13 Carolina 62.07% 44.44% 75.00% 57.58% 68.00% 51.79%
14 Green Bay 61.70% 55.56% -- 58.33% 65.22% 61.90%
15 Tampa Bay 60.00% 54.55% 75.00% 60.71% 59.38% 49.06%
16 Buffalo 59.46% 71.43% 100.00% 61.90% 56.25% 51.11%
17 Philadelphia 59.02% 71.43% 100.00% 55.17% 62.50% 64.06%
18 Denver 56.82% 50.00% 0.00% 59.09% 54.55% 39.58%
19 LA Rams 56.82% 50.00% -- 58.70% 54.76% 53.42%
20 Baltimore 55.74% 22.22% 50.00% 58.33% 52.00% 57.69%
21 Minnesota 54.00% 58.33% 100.00% 65.22% 44.44% 55.56%
22 Oakland 53.49% 50.00% -- 62.50% 42.11% 58.82%
23 Tennessee 53.19% 57.14% -- 57.69% 47.62% 54.55%
24 Detroit 53.06% 83.33% 100.00% 44.00% 62.50% 56.52%
25 Washington 52.50% 40.00% -- 52.63% 52.38% 54.35%
26 Dallas 51.79% 80.00% 100.00% 47.06% 59.09% 59.62%
27Miami51.61%50.00%50.00%58.82%42.86%52.63%
28NY Giants50.00%54.55%60.00%44.00%55.17%48.72%
29Houston50.00%50.00%50.00%52.94%46.43%52.38%
30NY Jets44.44%54.55%0.00%46.15%42.11%54.55%
31Jacksonville44.12%20.00%0.00%45.45%43.48%68.97%
32San Francisco41.18%27.27%60.00%42.31%40.00%47.06%

 

[WillieBeamen]

And that being his worst season still had the team with a winning record and 1 game from the playoffs. It's a personal issue with the ones saying Dak is garbage and not his play.

Its really not a personal issue. Dak supporters like to blame everyone and everything for his poor play. Those who dislike him bring up his poor play and shortcomings and we are “haters”.

As for us “haters”, we are all Cowboys fans first. We want whats best and THE best for our team. Seeing QBs like Mahomes and Watson flourish while we need everything around our QB to be ideal for him to be effective is depressing. We couldve had Mahomes too.

Btw, I was a fan of Dak. I defended him up until around the mid-way part of 2017. I was cautiously optimistic about him but once I saw Zeke go out, and we proceed to lose three straight did it for me.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Its really not a personal issue. Dak supporters like to blame everyone and everything for his poor play. Those who dislike him bring up his poor play and shortcomings and we are “haters”.

As for us “haters”, we are all Cowboys fans first. We want whats best and THE best for our team. Seeing QBs like Mahomes and Watson flourish while we need everything around our QB to be ideal for him to be effective is depressing. We couldve had Mahomes too.

Btw, I was a fan of Dak. I defended him up until around the mid-way part of 2017. I was cautiously optimistic about him but once I saw Zeke go out, and we proceed to lose three straight did it for me.

that's not true. Every single Dak "supporter" has brought up points when he plays bad. And you proved my point when you said he lost 3 straight and you were done with him. Seems you didn't like him at all if it was 3 games that made you done with him. Now the haters on the other hand refuse to say anything good about Dak. Y'all blame him for things that's not his fault.

Mahomes had a great year no denying that and at this point he is better than Dak. I won't argue that. Watson hasn't done anything though. He also has the benefit of having Hopkins from day one and speedsters like Fuller. Dak has had garbage at receivers until the trade for Cooper. Dak has done something no QB in the history have done.......3 straight years to start a career with at least 22 passing TDs and 5 rushing TDs. Dak is also one of only 3 QBs to start a career with 3 straight seasons of at least 20 passing TDs.....the other two are Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. Dak isn't terrible and isn't garbage. He makes mistakes no doubt but he is a very good QB and top 12 in the league with a chance to move up.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

that's not true. Every single Dak "supporter" has brought up points when he plays bad. And you proved my point when you said he lost 3 straight and you were done with him. Seems you didn't like him at all if it was 3 games that made you done with him. Now the haters on the other hand refuse to say anything good about Dak. Y'all blame him for things that's not his fault.

Mahomes had a great year no denying that and at this point he is better than Dak. I won't argue that. Watson hasn't done anything though. He also has the benefit of having Hopkins from day one and speedsters like Fuller. Dak has had garbage at receivers until the trade for Cooper. Dak has done something no QB in the history have done.......3 straight years to start a career with at least 22 passing TDs and 5 rushing TDs. Dak is also one of only 3 QBs to start a career with 3 straight seasons of at least 20 passing TDs.....the other two are Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. Dak isn't terrible and isn't garbage. He makes mistakes no doubt but he is a very good QB and top 12 in the league with a chance to move up.

He has pretty much a zero chance to move up and he’s closer to a bottom 12 QB than a top. In fact when you remove the fluke 2016 that’s getting farther and farther in the rear view every day, that’s pretty much what he’s been.

 

[ak47kaehu]

Haven't people realized by now that his worst year (his 2nd), he had one of the worst receiving units in the NFL? An aging Jason Witten, a washed out Dez Bryant, decent Terrence Williams, Cole Beasley, Brice Butler, and Noah Brown. One of the most weaksauce receiving units I can think of. That list of names has no flash at all.

It shouldn't be any surprise why his sophomore campaign was a failure. The majority of the criticism he gets is for his 2nd year (or that 16 game streak from Atlanta 2017 game 9 through Tennessee 2018 game 8). After the Cooper trade, he starts putting up highlights and has his team back in good looking shape. I'm just really shocked Cowboys fans don't seem to recognize what clearly dragged us down in '17.....

I'm just thankful that these same fans arent the organizations decision makers.....

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Here's some more QB stats that will insure that Dak is GREAT and worth 30+ million a year.......TOP TEN for Dak !!!!
And all this greatness as he's at a disadvantage having to play with the BEST HB in the NFL and a 300 million $ offline.......

NFL Player Stats - Sacked
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Rank Player Team Pos Value
1 Deshaun Watson Houston Texans QB 65
2 Dak Prescott Dallas Cowboys QB 58
3 Russell Wilson Seattle Seahawks QB 52
4 Derek Carr Oakland Raiders QB 51
5 Aaron Rodgers Green Bay Packers QB 49
6 Eli Manning New York Giants QB 47
7 Josh Rosen Arizona Cardinals QB 45
8 Marcus Mariota Tennessee Titans QB 42
8 Matt Ryan Atlanta Falcons QB 42
10 Matthew Stafford Detroit Lions QB 40
10 Kirk Cousins Minnesota Vikings QB 40

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Rank Player Team Pos Value
1 Lamar Jackson Baltimore Ravens QB 15
2 Jared Goff Los Angeles Rams QB 14
3 Dak Prescott Dallas Cowboys QB 12
3 Derek Carr Oakland Raiders QB 12

 

[WillieBeamen]

that's not true. Every single Dak "supporter" has brought up points when he plays bad. And you proved my point when you said he lost 3 straight and you were done with him. Seems you didn't like him at all if it was 3 games that made you done with him. Now the haters on the other hand refuse to say anything good about Dak. Y'all blame him for things that's not his fault.

Mahomes had a great year no denying that and at this point he is better than Dak. I won't argue that. Watson hasn't done anything though. He also has the benefit of having Hopkins from day one and speedsters like Fuller. Dak has had garbage at receivers until the trade for Cooper. Dak has done something no QB in the history have done.......3 straight years to start a career with at least 22 passing TDs and 5 rushing TDs. Dak is also one of only 3 QBs to start a career with 3 straight seasons of at least 20 passing TDs.....the other two are Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. Dak isn't terrible and isn't garbage. He makes mistakes no doubt but he is a very good QB and top 12 in the league with a chance to move up.

See this is what im talking about. Thats another thing with Dak stans. Yall refuse to give credit to other young QBs (besides Mahomes). Yall hate on Wentz but if Dak had an MVP-like season like he did in 2017, yall would be all over his jock. And Watson hasnt done anything? All of Watsons numbers are better than Dak’s and was on the verge of surpassing Daks Rookie TD total in half the amount of games (he had 19 Tds in 6 games).

Now Dak had garbage receivers until the trade for Cooper? You do know Dez’ last 8 games of 2016 was on par/better than what Cooper did last season right?

Dez last 8 games in 2016:
43 catches
646 yards
8 Tds

Coopers 9 games in 2018
53 catches
725 yards
6 Tds

Literally no one on this site besides maybe Xwalker and Verdict said we had garbage receivers in 2016. That premise is fan-made fiction

 

[FiveTime]

that's not true. Every single Dak "supporter" has brought up points when he plays bad. And you proved my point when you said he lost 3 straight and you were done with him. Seems you didn't like him at all if it was 3 games that made you done with him. Now the haters on the other hand refuse to say anything good about Dak. Y'all blame him for things that's not his fault.

Mahomes had a great year no denying that and at this point he is better than Dak. I won't argue that. Watson hasn't done anything though. He also has the benefit of having Hopkins from day one and speedsters like Fuller. Dak has had garbage at receivers until the trade for Cooper. Dak has done something no QB in the history have done.......3 straight years to start a career with at least 22 passing TDs and 5 rushing TDs. Dak is also one of only 3 QBs to start a career with 3 straight seasons of at least 20 passing TDs.....the other two are Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. Dak isn't terrible and isn't garbage. He makes mistakes no doubt but he is a very good QB and top 12 in the league with a chance to move up.

Mahomes and Watson are both much better passers than Dak. In my opinion accuracy is a mental issue for Dak. When he doesn't think and just reacts he is pretty good. When he starts to analyse his accuracy is off. It's like a golfer thinking too much about swing techniques instead is where the ball needs to go.

 

[HungryLion]

The positive news is. Based on recent reports the Cowboys aren’t going to extend Dak this off season.

So, we will get one more season of data and to see if he continues to grow or not.

Whether you believe Dak is the guy or not, that’s not a bad thing.

If he puts together a full season performing more like the second half of 2018, than the first half. Then perceptions will change. And vice versa.


Worse case scenario is another inconsistent season.

 

[jnday]

Romo at 38 years old might not have made it but Romo in his mid 20's would not have been a worry. Dak can work on mechanics, timing, and footwork twelve hours a day, seven days a week. He is not going to suddenly become a proficient passer.

The Dak lovers overlook the fact that Dak had great college coaches. He was not able to improve his faults such as poor accuracy and poor pocket awareness. His coaches have tried since his high school days, but Dak is what he is. This is my problem with extending his contract. Resigning Dak is basically saying that the Cowboys are happy with mediocrity at the QB position. I am an old school type of fan. America’s Team can not have a mediocre QB. A constant presence at the Super Bowl and winning conference titles is the minimum that when it comes to expectations. Dallas has the talent to win a Super Bowl right now if they would get another QB.

 

[HungryLion]

The Dak lovers overlook the fact that Dak had great college coaches. He was not able to improve his faults such as poor accuracy and poor pocket awareness. His coaches have tried since his high school days, but Dak is what he is. This is my problem with extending his contract. Resigning Dak is basically saying that the Cowboys are happy with mediocrity at the QB position. I am an old school type of fan. America’s Team can not have a mediocre QB. A constant presence at the Super Bowl and winning conference titles is the minimum that when it comes to expectations. Dallas has the talent to win a Super Bowl right now if they would get another QB.

Offensive rookie of the year, and two pro bowls in 3 NFL seasons.

Dak must have learned something from his college coaches......

Doesn’t mean Dak doesn’t still have weaknesses. I just think if we are going to question his ability to improve with good college coaches, we should understand that he clearly learned some things from them and honed some type of skills to be where he is.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

The Dak lovers overlook the fact that Dak had great college coaches. He was not able to improve his faults such as poor accuracy and poor pocket awareness. His coaches have tried since his high school days, but Dak is what he is. This is my problem with extending his contract. Resigning Dak is basically saying that the Cowboys are happy with mediocrity at the QB position. I am an old school type of fan. America’s Team can not have a mediocre QB. A constant presence at the Super Bowl and winning conference titles is the minimum that when it comes to expectations. Dallas has the talent to win a Super Bowl right now if they would get another QB.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

See this is what im talking about. Thats another thing with Dak stans. Yall refuse to give credit to other young QBs (besides Mahomes). Yall hate on Wentz but if Dak had an MVP-like season like he did in 2017, yall would be all over his jock. And Watson hasnt done anything? All of Watsons numbers are better than Dak’s and was on the verge of surpassing Daks Rookie TD total in half the amount of games (he had 19 Tds in 6 games).

Now Dak had garbage receivers until the trade for Cooper? You do know Dez’ last 8 games of 2016 was on par/better than what Cooper did last season right?

Dez last 8 games in 2016:
43 catches
646 yards
8 Tds

Coopers 9 games in 2018
53 catches
725 yards
6 Tds

Literally no one on this site besides maybe Xwalker and Verdict said we had garbage receivers in 2016. That premise is fan-made fiction

We hate on Wentz because he is one of the most overrated QBs on this board and is soft as wet tissue. Watson hasn't done anything, i think he has a bright future but right now Dak has done more and he has Hopkins.

With Dez he was declining. He struggled beating corners one on one and was the main reason we didn't make the playoffs in 17 with his performance against the Seahawks in a must win game. Cooper hasn't even had a full season with Dak much less an off-season.

Not really sure where you are getting the whole not giving other young QBs any credit. I'm on record saying i would take Mayfield and Trubisky over Dak. Mahomes is a given. QBs like Watson have bright futures but i wouldn't take him over Dak. Goff? Rosen? Darnold? Jimmy G? Seriously, they aren't better than Dak.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Mahomes and Watson are both much better passers than Dak. In my opinion accuracy is a mental issue for Dak. When he doesn't think and just reacts he is pretty good. When he starts to analyse his accuracy is off. It's like a golfer thinking too much about swing techniques instead is where the ball needs to go.

I'm not going to disagree entirely about acvuracy at times but i see it different. It's when he is pressured he doesnt set his feet and throws off of one foot. Over all his accuracy isn't terrible like some say. He actually completes passes at a decent average. Mahomes I'm not going to disagree but i wouldn't want Watson over Dak, not at this point in their careers.