KJJ;3276958 said:
Look you're going to disagree with everything I say regardless of how right I am. I've seen this tactic before. LOL Are saying MartyB isn't immature and has lived up to his second round draft status? Go dance around those. :mchammer:
How do you know I am going to disagree with everything you say unless you already know you're always wrong?
After 2 years in the NFL you don't have the skins on the wall to say someone is a bust. Until you can show me some NFL credentials all you have is your opinion. I hate to break this to you Skippy, but that and a buck 25 will buy you a Coke.
I don't care about your definition of maturity. I don't care whether Martellus Bennett meets your standards of maturity or not. I am no fan of rap music, but he enjoys it. So what? I care about how his being on the football field affects the team. You may call that "Football Maturity" if you wish. If you can figure out how to look up the statistics one thing is going to be crystal clear if your eyes are open. The Dallas Cowboys Offense was more productive when Bennett was playing than when he wasn't.
That is a bust in your eyes? Then I say you need to open them.
The discussion wasn't about the entire 7 rounds of the draft it was about the "second round" and how poorly the Cowboys have drafted in that round the past 10 years.
I know that Skippy. That is why I made the comment that using one round of those Drafts is pigeonholing an empty argument. It completely ignores previous decades under the same management and is reliant upon very faulty premises. You forget to mention that many of the players we drafted are still in the NFL with other teams. A convenient oversight that I think is intentional bitterness due to head impaction in hindquarters.
Here's a little test for you. Ron Francis, Darryl Clack, Jesse Penn, Malcolm Moore, Victor Scott, Mike Walter, Jeff Rohrer, and Doug Donley.
Does that open your eyes? Or are you too baffled to have any idea what I am talking about? I will guess the latter. Those are the 2nd round picks of Hall of Famers Tex Schramm and Tom Landry in the 1980s.
Now before you try and spin control that I am dissing Landry and Schramm, just stop. I can show you great draft choices throughout the decade of the 80's just like I can the previous decade.
In other words, it was and is, a rather silly premise upon which to base anything.
Are you saying we haven't drafted poorly in the second round the past 10 years yes or no? When a team selects 9 players in a 10 year period picking between numbers 33-64 and selects only one solid player that's POOR drafting in a high round that has a alot of good players in it.
No, I totally reject your definition for the reason I stated above. I don't give two hoots in hell about one round of a Draft in a given decade. It doesn't prove one damned thing.
Did you know that the 2nd round is the round that most teams gamble? Of course you didn't. That is the round where teams will roll the dice on a guy who if he had stayed one more year in school might have been a 1st round talent. Not every gamble pays off. In the decade you are decrying as abject failure we have had several players who are pretty decent football players. It is ignorant to say that means failure.
Our first two picks in 2000 and 01 were disasters. They were our top picks and were FLOPS! Agree or disagree? Just answer the questions!
It's a very critical round when you're TOP picks are from that round like they were in 2000 and 01. It's a very critical round when you're owner is picking a QB with that pick to replace a hall of fame QB....NEXT!
Agree.
You might want to change your calendar though. 2000 and 2001 were a long freaking time ago. Oh and so you know, the exclamation point at the end of all your sentences makes the whole point look juvenile.
You can study and research for HOURS and it's still going to lead to your own personal opinion in the end. AdamJT13 didn't school me on anything that's just you making a delusional statement because you have a problem with me.
I have a problem with you? When did that happen? I must have been asleep. I don't even know who you are. I could be wrong but I think correcting you on who MB was is the first time I have ever conversed with you. Where I come from we call that an assist, not a problem with you.
Oh yeah, he schooled you badly. He provided input on every teams success or failure in the 2nd round in this decade using your criteria and he proved your analysis wrong. It is not my fault if you can't stand being contradicted. He took you out behind the woodshed. That's just the truth. He actually did research and you didn't. Therein lies the difference.
All he did was make a blanket statement regarding 19 teams that he never closely evaluated and compared to other teams including the Cowboys. LOL Most here know I'm telling it straight about MartyB and our second round draft selections the past decade.
Most here? Skippy, I don't see anyone agreeing with you or backing you up. I think you must be listening to voices in your head if you hear agreement.
I challenge anyone to argue that Bennett isn't immature and that our second round drafts the past decade haven't been bad.
I believe I already have.
Everyone who has an agenda against me will show up but they'll make sure to tap dance around these issues because it's an argument they can't win.
Holy cow, now people have agendas against you?
What I'm presenting are FACTS and the few who want to scream TROLL because they have no answers or the truth hurts can scream all they want. LOL
Actually you threw out a blanket statement and Adam responded with the facts.
He used "MB" and I thought he was referring to Barber. If you want to keep making an issue of it go right ahead. It's all you got! At least it gives you a way to divert from the questions I've cornered you with. LOL
Skippy, you're the one making an issue of it. The poster himself told he meant Bennett. Everyone got what he said except you. The rest of us have merely tried to explain it to you. You thought he meant Barber. You were wrong. Go ahead and say it. "I was wrong." It is crystal clear to everyone else.
You've been challenged with SEVERAL questions and I'll sit back and watch you try and tap dance around them. :shades:
If you are honest and smart, you will realize that I not only exposed the theory presented as worthy of being in a horse pasture, but I also gave you two avenues to study that will also slam the door on your pathetic argument.
I don't dance unless I enjoy the music Skippy. Your symphony was a screech, as in brought to a screeching halt by real facts. I was able to do it without exclamation points and I'm so clever emoticons too. Please tell me you aren't capable of researching the effectiveness of the Offense when Bennett is on the field versus when he is not and you want to continue getting your butt handed to you by this old man. I warned you that I was out of your league. You should have listened. This ain't my first rodeo.
How about you stay on track.
