For All You Conspiracy Nuts

[Hardline]

 

[Hoofbite]

I'm pretty sure I saw an alien grey at work the other day.

 

[jimmy40]

conspiracy theories I believe

Patrick Ewing to the Knicks

that's about it.

 

[rynochop]

conspiracy theories I believe

Patrick Ewing to the Knicks

that's about it.

Ha..I'd forgotten about that, and yeah, that was a setup from the get go. I thought there was a ping pong ball conspiracy too one year..I'm too lazy to look it up

 

[timb2]

conspiracy theories I believe

Patrick Ewing to the Knicks

that's about it.

Watch as the guy putting them slams that one envelope to bend the corner and then watch Daniel Stern pick it up and first thing he does when picking it up is straighten that corner with his index finger

 

[timb2]

I hate to say this but I think the NFL has it's own rigged stuff. How do 2 expansion teams(Panthers & Jaguars) in their 2nd year with rosters full of scrubs and castoffs from other teams both make it to the NFC & AFC Championship game,one game away from the Superbowl???? It couldn't be to promote these franchises in these lower market cities????

Peyton Manning can barely throw for 30 yards and his pass is slow as a turtle race but the Broncos win the Superbowl and Peyton goes out a winner and no more critism about losing the Superbowl more than winning it as Peyton now goes out 2 for 2?

I question if DEFLATEGATE was really a diversion so the NFL did not have to talk about CTE or all the players beating up women that offseason. Ray Rice,Greg Hardy,and Junior Gallette and so on. I wonder if the NFL came to the Patriots and Brady and said we need a diversion and the payoff is another Superbowl win or two after things cool down???

I question if certain players for marketability go to certain franchises. Think Hurricane Katrina and the Saints have the 2nd pick in the draft. The best known name who everyone is saying is the next supertar is Reggie Bush. Texans pass on Bush and now the Saints get a marketing draw.

Do most black QBs get screwed over and can only go to lower marketable teams than the big powerhouse moneymaker name franchises(Note no one saw Dak Prescott coming this far last year being a 4th round pick) QBs are the face of that franchise,but also that city. So why does Mitch Trubisky go to Chicago after only 13 starts versus Deshaun Watson who had over 30 starts and been in the Championship game the last 2 years?.. Most fans are fairweather fans and not like us rabid guys who know the whole roster.Most majority only might know a name or two and not even sure what teams they play for???... It's like the black QB gets one chance and then they want to dump him if he falters.


Does the sports media hype the black players having off field baggage more than the white players? Yes you heard all through the draft Reuben Foster, Tim Williams, Gaeron Conley,but did you hear Garrett Bolles past???? All you heard is he had a rough childhood. How about others getting the same free pass they had a rough childhood ? Bolles did deal drugs,was in gangs,theft but you didn't hear it???

 

[arglebargle]

Not all conspiracies are equal.

Sometimes they are just confluences of interest or confluences of error. Sometimes just random. Sometimes they are just well hidden. But Batboy does not equal JFK, etc.

 

[timb2]

Has anyone seen the documentary "Waco The Big Lie"?

 

[timb2]

BBC reporting Building 7 has fallen before it happens. You can see Building 7 behind Jane Stanley. They cut away when the building does fall.

 

[timb2]

Fake Osama Bin Laden????

The top left one is from the video of Bin Laden admitting 911 . Top right is a known picture of Bin Laden before 911. You see how the eyes are different, the nose is more round on the left vs a long beak on the right.Also he is darker in the video vs the known picture. Also Bin Laden was left handed but in the video writes with his right hand,but when shooting a rifle he is shooting left handed in other videos.
http://911blimp.net/images/fake_osama_comparo1.jpg

 

[DasTex]

BBC reporting Building 7 has fallen before it happens. You can see Building 7 behind Jane Stanley. They cut away when the building does fall.

That one was pretty easily explained. 7 was in really bad shape and they were expecting it to fall at that point.

Why in the world would the "mastermind" behind this give reporters scripts??? That makes zero sense

 

[timb2]

That one was pretty easily explained. 7 was in really bad shape and they were expecting it to fall at that point.

Why in the world would the "mastermind" behind this give reporters scripts??? That makes zero sense

There is a reason the news is called programming. You flip through the news channels and every story is almost in order with all the major news channels. Building 7 has not fallen yet and they report it,why cut away then? They should just admit the news channel made a mistake. Plenty of times if someone goes off script the news wants to break away.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

Random thoughts:

- I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job due to the massive and complex logistics to pull it off meanwhile having the multiple thousands of individuals that it would take to simply shut their mouths.

- I've been back and forth about the Moon landing. Believed it. Disbelieved it. Now, I'm leaning towards disbelieving it.

- Bigfoot, as much as I want to believe, just cant possibly exist due to the size of that **'er and the lack of any real video evidence. If this was an marine animal, you could suspend doubt due to the hardships of gathering evidence, but a surface animal....7+foot/300lbs....with spottings in North America? BS.

Space Aliens that've visited us? No.

Our leadership didn't know about the Pearl Harbor attack ahead of time? Inconclusive.


JFK:

- I don't believe Oswald was the lone shooter or even acted alone (I don't even feel that he even fired a shot). How do you miss the first (easiest) of 3 shots and then follow up the next two, after cycling the dodgy Italian bolt, with pinpoint accuracy on a target moving away? He was not a marksman in the Marines, as advertised, and was either extremely genius or incredibly dumb with his decisions to mess around with Russia. IMO, evidence points to him being quite the dispensable individual.

- I didn't read the book about the SS in the rear with the M-16 that might've accidentally discharged, but it seemed plausible for about a day or two. Then, common sense and logic prevailed after watching the Zapruder film another 10-15 times.

- I've felt for a long time that, after watching the Zapruder film, the final kill shot didn't come from the back or back-right (LHO) but from the front or right-front. It just seemed so obvious from how his melon moved/exploded.

- My "theory" of where the kill shot came from? The storm drain. There's a discovery channel shill that made a whole episode 'debunking' it on the basis that he couldn't get a good visual maneuvering his big-*** camera lens out of the opening, but he failed to mention that the street had been repaved multiple times over the years and the road had risen as much as 3-4" inches from where it was in 1963.

- I believe there were multiple shooters involved with the instruction of, once the signal was given, they take one shot and then expeditiously exfiltrate the scene. LHO was not privy to much of this as he was likely one of the low-level players to be potentially sacrificed to cover the trail. TBH, there could've been multiple "fledglings" that were to meet in that theater after the assassination. An operation of that scale required a lot of moving parts (unlocking doors, staging materials, spotting, diverting, etc.) and depending on how things turned out, it was the un-luck of the draw who was destined to be scapegoated and shot near the theater or the next day by Jack "The Patriotic yet dumb American" Ruby (last minute clean-up guy courtesy of the Mafia).

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Our leadership didn't know about the Pearl Harbor attack ahead of time? Inconclusive.

Pearl Harbor is an interesting one.

While there were certainly parts of the military and the intelligence arm of the government that had more than a feeling something was going to happen, but it was more to the extent of "Yes the Japanese could hit us and we think it could happen here (PH)" but there wasn't a powerful enough group with enough knowledge to alert anyone to a Dec. 7th date and what was going to be involved.

The Japanese were very good at keeping this thing under wraps as big as it was. They also had some amazingly good luck on their side (which happens in warfare) and on the US side, there was some luck involved that kept the beat-down from being even worse.

 

[blindzebra]

Random thoughts:

- I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job due to the massive and complex logistics to pull it off meanwhile having the multiple thousands of individuals that it would take to simply shut their mouths.

- I've been back and forth about the Moon landing. Believed it. Disbelieved it. Now, I'm leaning towards disbelieving it.

- Bigfoot, as much as I want to believe, just cant possibly exist due to the size of that **'er and the lack of any real video evidence. If this was an marine animal, you could suspend doubt due to the hardships of gathering evidence, but a surface animal....7+foot/300lbs....with spottings in North America? BS.

Space Aliens that've visited us? No.

Our leadership didn't know about the Pearl Harbor attack ahead of time? Inconclusive.


JFK:

- I don't believe Oswald was the lone shooter or even acted alone (I don't even feel that he even fired a shot). How do you miss the first (easiest) of 3 shots and then follow up the next two, after cycling the dodgy Italian bolt, with pinpoint accuracy on a target moving away? He was not a marksman in the Marines, as advertised, and was either extremely genius or incredibly dumb with his decisions to mess around with Russia. IMO, evidence points to him being quite the dispensable individual.

- I didn't read the book about the SS in the rear with the M-16 that might've accidentally discharged, but it seemed plausible for about a day or two. Then, common sense and logic prevailed after watching the Zapruder film another 10-15 times.

- I've felt for a long time that, after watching the Zapruder film, the final kill shot didn't come from the back or back-right (LHO) but from the front or right-front. It just seemed so obvious from how his melon moved/exploded.

- My "theory" of where the kill shot came from? The storm drain. There's a discovery channel shill that made a whole episode 'debunking' it on the basis that he couldn't get a good visual maneuvering his big-*** camera lens out of the opening, but he failed to mention that the street had been repaved multiple times over the years and the road had risen as much as 3-4" inches from where it was in 1963.

- I believe there were multiple shooters involved with the instruction of, once the signal was given, they take one shot and then expeditiously exfiltrate the scene. LHO was not privy to much of this as he was likely one of the low-level players to be potentially sacrificed to cover the trail. TBH, there could've been multiple "fledglings" that were to meet in that theater after the assassination. An operation of that scale required a lot of moving parts (unlocking doors, staging materials, spotting, diverting, etc.) and depending on how things turned out, it was the un-luck of the draw who was destined to be scapegoated and shot near the theater or the next day by Jack "The Patriotic yet dumb American" Ruby (last minute clean-up guy courtesy of the Mafia).

The first shot was partially blocked by a tree and the traffic light and the bullet grazed the traffic light. Oswald 100% was the only gunman. Way too many people would have to have been involved for it to be a conspiracy. If you don't focus on the back and to the left motion in the Zapruder film and just focus on JFK, you can clearly see the results of a rear shot blowing a flap of skull out from above his ear. A shot from the grassy knoll would have hit Jackie too, the angle is all wrong for the head wound. Despite what we have heard the majority of witnesses heard 3 shots, multiple witnesses saw a shooter in the 6th floor of the TSBD. People saying that people running for the grassy knoll is proof of a shooter there is counter-intuitive because who would run toward someone shooting? Makes far more sense that they were running away from a shooter from behind.

The biggest issue is that there was so much in Oswald's past that could be viewed as suspicious that the Warren Commission did a poor job of explaining things, that and Johnson was so concerned of WW3 with Russia that they rushed through the process.

The other thing is the Warren Report is so big that nobody really read it except those looking to cash in on the doubts of the public. They would ignore the overwhelming evidence of Oswald's quilt and focus on minor inconsistencies in testimony that occur in every crime. As time passed the facts got so distorted by theories and out right lies...the zig-zag path of the so-called magic bullet is a perfect example...that people began to except the theories as fact. Throw in the complete fiction of Oliver Stone's fantasy JFK and the most outlandish theory became that Oswald acted alone.

And to make things perfectly clear, this is coming from someone who read every book after seeing the Zapruder film on Goodnight America and was certain that there was a conspiracy. But as time passed and after reading Case Closed, I am sure that they got it right. Oswald's fingerprints were all over the rifle and sniper's nest. All of the fragments in JFK, Conley, and the limo matched the rifle. There is no physical evidence of another shooter. The location of the wounds and the location of the limo at the time of the shots all point back to the 6th floor of the TSBD and nowhere else.

There were mistakes by witnesses, mistakes in the investigation, and a big mistake by not having a professional pathologist do the autopsy and that opened the door for doubts to creep in...then the money-grubbing nuts started writing books and the truth got further and further away.

 

[timb2]

Who Killed Seth Rich? You would think the DNC would be demanding to find out who killed a high DNC tech guy? Also why does Julian Assange want to know who killed Seth Rich is and putting up $20,000 for evidence of who the killer is? Rich wouldn't have been the l;eaker to WikiLeaks and not the Russians? Why hasn't the FBI checked out the DNC servers who the Russians supposedly hacked liked the DNC said?Why didn't James Comey say he had a conflict of interest in the probe of Hillary Clinton.?Keep believing whatever the mainstream media is spewing on Trump to distract

 

[timb2]

The first shot was partially blocked by a tree and the traffic light and the bullet grazed the traffic light. Oswald 100% was the only gunman. Way too many people would have to have been involved for it to be a conspiracy. If you don't focus on the back and to the left motion in the Zapruder film and just focus on JFK, you can clearly see the results of a rear shot blowing a flap of skull out from above his ear. A shot from the grassy knoll would have hit Jackie too, the angle is all wrong for the head wound. Despite what we have heard the majority of witnesses heard 3 shots, multiple witnesses saw a shooter in the 6th floor of the TSBD. People saying that people running for the grassy knoll is proof of a shooter there is counter-intuitive because who would run toward someone shooting? Makes far more sense that they were running away from a shooter from behind.

The biggest issue is that there was so much in Oswald's past that could be viewed as suspicious that the Warren Commission did a poor job of explaining things, that and Johnson was so concerned of WW3 with Russia that they rushed through the process.

The other thing is the Warren Report is so big that nobody really read it except those looking to cash in on the doubts of the public. They would ignore the overwhelming evidence of Oswald's quilt and focus on minor inconsistencies in testimony that occur in every crime. As time passed the facts got so distorted by theories and out right lies...the zig-zag path of the so-called magic bullet is a perfect example...that people began to except the theories as fact. Throw in the complete fiction of Oliver Stone's fantasy JFK and the most outlandish theory became that Oswald acted alone.

And to make things perfectly clear, this is coming from someone who read every book after seeing the Zapruder film on Goodnight America and was certain that there was a conspiracy. But as time passed and after reading Case Closed, I am sure that they got it right. Oswald's fingerprints were all over the rifle and sniper's nest. All of the fragments in JFK, Conley, and the limo matched the rifle. There is no physical evidence of another shooter. The location of the wounds and the location of the limo at the time of the shots all point back to the 6th floor of the TSBD and nowhere else.

There were mistakes by witnesses, mistakes in the investigation, and a big mistake by not having a professional pathologist do the autopsy and that opened the door for doubts to creep in...then the money-grubbing nuts started writing books and the truth got further and further away.

OK I hope I am wrong here
I am going to tell who I believed took the killshot who killed JFK. Mary Moorman the lady in blue with a camera gun. I believe they're were probably atleast 3 to 4 shooters that day but the killshot who blew his brains out it lines up to her in the Zapruder video. Here is what I see.

*-The right side of JFK's head explodes so that is the exit wound.The entrance comes from the left. The TSBD is behind them so if it didn't come from her it went right over her head.
*Why does Mary Moorman want to get a picture of JFK's back of the head? You would want a picture of his face.
*Everyone thinks that shot was far away,but that sniper didn't even graze Jackie who is all over JFK in concern. I don't believe it was far away but close.
*Both her and Jean Hill are far from others and Hill is not even looking at the limo she could be looking to stop any other passerbys to get to close or a spotter
*No one would suspect a woman as the assassin. When you hear Assassin,sniper,killer you automatically think it must be a man not a woman.
*Moorman is standing awkward like a military standing rifle stance shooter does.
*The witnesses said the limo stopped and in the Orville Nix film you can see the limo's brakelights go on and who is it near it?
*Moorman she talked to local news stations and then for over 50 years has not said a thing about it to the news.never wrote a book or wanting to cash in on being a celebrity but just fade into the background
*She got out of giving testimony to the Warren Commission saying she had a sprained ankle and couldn't make it.You are the closest person to the shooting and the Nations Leader has been slained and a sprained ankle is going to hold you back.
*I belive what Lee Bowers said about the shots. He heard a 1st shot most likely the throat shot and then 2nd & 3rd within a spilt second from each other. I do believe there was a Grassy Knoll shooter and I suspect what Lee Bowers saw was a cop(aka Badgeman). Bowers knew this was dirty and probably went up to LBJ.

I hope I am wrong but that is who I suspect

Look for the angle of the shot and who had a clear shot

*



No way this pristine bullet hits JFK and Connolly multiple times without being scarred up
http://myamericanodyssey.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Pristine_bullet.png

 

[blindzebra]

OK I hope I am wrong here
I am going to tell who I believed took the killshot who killed JFK. Mary Moorman the lady in blue with a camera gun. I believe they're were probably atleast 3 to 4 shooters that day but the killshot who blew his brains out it lines up to her in the Zapruder video. Here is what I see.

*-The right side of JFK's head explodes so that is the exit wound.The entrance comes from the left. The TSBD is behind them so if it didn't come from her it went right over her head.
*Why does Mary Moorman want to get a picture of JFK's back of the head? You would want a picture of his face.
*Everyone thinks that shot was far away,but that sniper didn't even graze Jackie who is all over JFK in concern. I don't believe it was far away but close.
*Both her and Jean Hill are far from others and Hill is not even looking at the limo she could be looking to stop any other passerbys to get to close or a spotter
*No one would suspect a woman as the assassin. When you hear Assassin,sniper,killer you automatically think it must be a man not a woman.
*Moorman is standing awkward like a military standing rifle stance shooter does.
*The witnesses said the limo stopped and in the Orville Nix film you can see the limo's brakelights go on and who is it near it?
*Moorman she talked to local news stations and then for over 50 years has not said a thing about it to the news.never wrote a book or wanting to cash in on being a celebrity but just fade into the background
*She got out of giving testimony to the Warren Commission saying she had a sprained ankle and couldn't make it.You are the closest person to the shooting and the Nations Leader has been slained and a sprained ankle is going to hold you back.
*I belive what Lee Bowers said about the shots. He heard a 1st shot most likely the throat shot and then 2nd & 3rd within a spilt second from each other. I do believe there was a Grassy Knoll shooter and I suspect what Lee Bowers saw was a cop(aka Badgeman). Bowers knew this was dirty and probably went up to LBJ.

I hope I am wrong but that is who I suspect

Look for the angle of the shot and who had a clear shot

*



No way this pristine bullet hits JFK and Connolly multiple times without being scarred up
http://myamericanodyssey.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Pristine_bullet.png

Jackie is between Moorman and JFK it is an impossible angle. There were no wounds on the left side of his head. His head was down and turned to the left. The bullet struck him just above the bony part at the base of his skull and came out just above his right ear and then two fragments of the bullet hit the chrome above the windshield and the windshield leaving a crack. The angle of his head and the angle from the TSBD line up perfectly for the kill shot.

The bullet wasn't pristine that is a myth, it was bent badly from striking Connolly's rib. The reason the tip wasn't more deformed was because it was travelling backwards when it struck Connolly's wrist. The Bullet hit JFK in the upper back came out of his throat and began to tumble. It struck Connolly going sideways as the long key-shaped wound under his armpit proves. It then struck his rib bending the bullet and while still tumbling came out his chest and was going backwards when it hit his wrist. The reason the test bullets were more deformed was because they were full powered shots striking a wrist bone straight on instead of a tumbling bullet that was going much, much slower after hitting clothes, skin, muscle, and bones of two men. There are test shots with reduced loads to compensate for the lost speed that came out looking far more like the magic bullet.

 

[SlammedZero]

I like some good conspiracy theories. I think it is fairly easy to shake out the ones that could have some backbone versus ones that you can immediately take with a grain of salt or easily dismiss.

The fun in them is anything is possible and that the truth is out there, somewhere.

 

[timb2]

Jackie is between Moorman and JFK it is an impossible angle. There were no wounds on the left side of his head. His head was down and turned to the left. The bullet struck him just above the bony part at the base of his skull and came out just above his right ear and then two fragments of the bullet hit the chrome above the windshield and the windshield leaving a crack. The angle of his head and the angle from the TSBD line up perfectly for the kill shot.

The bullet wasn't pristine that is a myth, it was bent badly from striking Connolly's rib. The reason the tip wasn't more deformed was because it was travelling backwards when it struck Connolly's wrist. The Bullet hit JFK in the upper back came out of his throat and began to tumble. It struck Connolly going sideways as the long key-shaped wound under his armpit proves. It then struck his rib bending the bullet and while still tumbling came out his chest and was going backwards when it hit his wrist. The reason the test bullets were more deformed was because they were full powered shots striking a wrist bone straight on instead of a tumbling bullet that was going much, much slower after hitting clothes, skin, muscle, and bones of two men. There are test shots with reduced loads to compensate for the lost speed that came out looking far more like the magic bullet.

* Look at the Moorman photo. Jackie is not blocking a possible headshot. Also closer you can separate as your target is closer.

* The pristine bullet should have been more damaged and it tumbled and bounced through bones. It is called the pristine bullet because it wasn't messed up.

*So 3 shots,so how did James Tague get hit by a ricochet at the underpass? That is 4 shots.

*Oswald knows David Ferrie and is located in the same building with different addresses and also former FBI Guy Bannister in New Orleans and that is not suspicious???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Banister


*David Ferrie knows Oswald and Jack Ruby

*Clay Shaw has in his house the names of Oswald & Ferrie as guest.

Jack Ruby loved JFK and that is why he shot Oswald but Ruby had been a volunteer for Nixon?

There is a conspiracy