For All You Conspiracy Nuts

timb2

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So are you saying the limo driver was in on it?

Here's my issue with a lot of these theories. You've posted videos about various possibilities. The limo driver, the "Umbrella Man," the CIA/Military, etc. You believe in the fairly improbable theories yet toss aside the physical evidence. I mean, in the link you posted above, the author believes that the Zapruder film was tampered with.
Yes The Zapruder film has been tampered with.
*You see the man near the end of the video on the lawn,his legs split apart in just one frame. That means the film has been spliced.
*Witnesses said the limo stopped even Officier Hargis one of the motorcycle cops and yet in the Zapruder they try to make it look like it wasn't. Watch the driver and the passenger secret service agent and they will jerk forward because the driver Bill Greer put on the brakes hard,yet they try not show it. Ok you are going 10mph and the driver and passenger move forward as of a hard brake.

*So Demohrenschildt just decides to blow his brains out before he has to testify. Same Demohrenschildt who wrote Bush Sr. who he was friends with and Bush happen to be CIA Director at the time where Demohrenschildt wanted all this to just go away.

*Just coincidence that David Ferrie dies one week after the news media breaks he is a witness for Jim Garrison

Oswald is carrying Ferrie's library card in his wallet and yet Oswald is a commie as Ferrie is a right wing nut who hates communist.Yet Ferrie has known Oswald since he was 15.

Demohrenschildt is a rich right wing capitalist who just wants to hang out at Oswald's place who is a left wing commie who only makes $1 dollar an hour at his new job at the TSBD.

* Claw Shaw just decided to write Oswald & Ferrie names as guests in message book in his home for no reason.

*Bannister just happens to flip out and assault his work partner Jack Martin the night of the assassination.Where Oswald just happen to work in the same building as Bannister & Ferrie

*Jack Ruby just happens to know Ferrie & Jim Braden . Ferrie is from New Orleans and Braden is from California and Ruby is from Dallas and Ruby & Braden just happen to be near HL Hunt the day before who meets with LBJ that night before the assassination.

DW Byrd just happens to hate JFK with a want ad For Treason that he posted that day in Dallas Morning News and he just happens to own the TSBD where Oswald gets a job a month before.But Byrd loves LBJ and is big donor for his library.

Oswald just for some reason decided when he was arrested in New Orleans for The Fair Play for Cuba incident. Who does Oswald call for his one call in jail?? Did he call his wife? No. Did he call his lawyer? No. He called the head of the New Orleans FBI and he was out of jail in hour and 30 minutes.

*Ruby kills Oswald because he loved JFK but he was a campaign volunteer for Nixon from earlier years.

LBJ is in Dallas

Nixon just happens to be in Dallas

Hoover just happens to be in Dallas

Bush Sr. just happens to be in Dallas.



I MEAN WHAT WAS I THINKING???? IT MUST HAVE BEEN JUST OSWALD. A LONE NUT. NOT A CONSPIRACY... OK you guys have convinced me.


Well the physical evidence you say.....

You mean like Oswald can get 3 shots off in 8 seconds while experts shooters can't while Oswald was a crappy shooter? Oswald then can wipe the rifle down and go to the other side of the 6th floor while dodging books scattered in stacks without knocking stuff over while wiping the gun down and hiding it, and then go down 4 flights of stairs and 4 extended walkways between each floor in 90 seconds without the 2 ladies on the stairs walking during their lunchbreak seeing him either coming from the 2nd floor entering to the 6th floor or exiting the 6th floor and get to the 2nd floor breakroom where Oswald was seen 6 minutes before the shooting by 3 other employees. and at the 2nd floor coke machine getting a coke before the manager and the cop come busting in?

Physical evidence like JFK's brain is missing?

LBJ who was a lawyer knowing he shouldn't get the limo and Connolley's suit cleaned before an investigation? That physical evidence?

Physical evidence like a bullet can hit multiple times and come out looking like it was pristine?

Physical evidence like Jim Braden changing his story why he was at Dal-Tex and the guy who drove Braden takes off when he sees his buddy Braden being arrested?

Physical evidence like the Altgens photo showing a rifle muzzle sticking outside the window behind the fire escape of the Dal-Tex building?

Physical evidence of David Ferrie's library card in Oswald's wallet?Yet David Ferrie saying he didn't know Oswald yet Oswald was in his Civil Air Patrol Cadet program and in the same building in New Orleans?

Physical evidence of the Zapruder Film being spliced and not shown to the public till 1976?

Physical evidence that David Ferrie was is Texas where Ferrie admits but says he was in Houston talking to a skating rink owner Chuck Rolland of how to open and install a skating rink in New Orleans,yet Rolland does not remember Ferrie or even knowing him??

Physical evidence that David Ferrie penned two suicide notes the night he died but his autopsy said he died of natural causes???

No Conspiracy....
 

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The protection detail in Dallas didn't do anything different than what they had done in the past. This is because it's what the President wanted. He even wanted the motorcade to stop at red lights when he visited New York because he was keenly aware of the criticisms about how his motorcade disrupted traffic. Prouty would have you believe different but notice the people in the windows. The first is his visit to Ireland and the second a visit to Hawaii.

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Who runs the media? Who had power over the Warren commission? Who has power over the secret service, Dallas Police, or the military/cia?

So literally dozens of people, if not hundreds, were involved int he cover up and no one said a word? Got it.
 

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The protection detail in Dallas didn't do anything different than what they had done in the past. This is because it's what the President wanted. He even wanted the motorcade to stop at red lights when he visited New York because he was keenly aware of the criticisms about how his motorcade disrupted traffic. Prouty would have you believe different but notice the people in the windows. The first is his visit to Ireland and the second a visit to Hawaii.

I think Prouty mentioned the protection after the death threats Kennedy was receiving. A plot to kill him in Chicago weeks before, and Miami days before.
 

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So literally dozens of people, if not hundreds, were involved int he cover up and no one said a word? Got it.

Yes John Wilkes Booth acted alone too? No atleast 8 known conspirators were involved in Lincoln's assassination.
 

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So literally dozens of people, if not hundreds, were involved int he cover up and no one said a word? Got it.

Sure, I guess if you don't care about your family members or your own life being taken out. To give a so called 'WORD' you have to have evidence to back it up. The so called smoking gun.
 

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Yes John Wilkes Booth acted alone too? No atleast 8 known conspirators were involved in Lincoln's assassination.

So because there was a conspiracy in a prior assassination makes it so for this one? Maybe the super sleuths in the 1800's were far more capable than folks 100 years later.
 

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Who runs the media? Who had power over the Warren commission? Who has power over the secret service, Dallas Police, or the military/cia?

You're talking in riddles.

And you're literally talking about 100's of people who would need to be involved to pull it off. And how do you recruit these people? How do know they'll all say "yes" to participating and that the one that says "no" doesn't spoil the plot?
 

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So literally dozens of people, if not hundreds, were involved int he cover up and no one said a word? Got it.
It is a waste of time. You have one quoting Wikipedia and Oliver Stone's completely fabricated JFK as sources of facts and another posting hack youtube clips by nuts looking to cash in on the conspiracy craze.
 

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You're talking in riddles.

And you're literally talking about 100's of people who would need to be involved to pull it off. And how do you recruit these people? How do know they'll all say "yes" to participating and that the one that says "no" doesn't spoil the plot?

lol. Or your reading ability is a riddle in itself. How DID they recruit the people involved in the plots to assassinate Castro?

Again, as for spoiling the JFK plot. What so called smoking gun evidence did they have coming out in the media (when they were alive to do so)?
 

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It is a waste of time. You have one quoting Wikipedia and Oliver Stone's completely fabricated JFK as sources of facts and another posting hack youtube clips by nuts looking to cash in on the conspiracy craze.

Or hacks as yourself posting about another form of media besides youtube, such as a book to read or movie to watch. Cashing in on the Oswald did it alone craze.
 

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LOL, so they killed all the loose ends, so who killed the people killing the loose ends? So they hired new people to kill the loose ends created by the ones who killed the first loose ends. But wait, now they have new loose ends.
 

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LOL, so they killed all the loose ends, so who killed the people killing the loose ends? So they hired new people to kill the loose ends created by the ones who killed the first loose ends. But wait, now they have new loose ends.

Why can't you answer what is the so called 'smoking gun evidence' that these loose ends possessed to go to the media?
 

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Or hacks as yourself posting about another form of media besides youtube, such as a book to read or movie to watch. Cashing in on the Oswald did it alone craze.
There is no craze for Oswald did it alone. Posner's book was an attempt to explain the facts from the theories. He went into great detail to tear apart the theories that have no evidence to support them. Parkland was a detailed account of that weekend, it wasn't an Oswald did it movie, but it does shed light on many of the things conspiracy nuts have been harping on for years.
 

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Why can't you answer what is the so called 'smoking gun evidence' that these loose ends possessed to go to the media?
What? That makes absolutely zero sense. You are the one talking about mysterious deaths and people being silent out of fear of getting whacked. I just pointed out the catch in that ridiculous theory.
 

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There is no craze for Oswald did it alone. Posner's book was an attempt to explain the facts from the theories. He went into great detail to tear apart the theories that have no evidence to support them. Parkland was a detailed account of that weekend, it wasn't an Oswald did it movie, but it does shed light on many of the things conspiracy nuts have been harping on for years.

lol. So no tv documentaries, no news programing, no books, or even the official report as the Warren commission stating that Oslwald did it alone.
 

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What? That makes absolutely zero sense. You are the one talking about mysterious deaths and people being silent out of fear of getting whacked. I just pointed out the catch in that ridiculous theory.

You are the ones saying 'why don't they come out', those that were involved in the plot. My point is come out with what? What exactly are they showing to the media? Why would the media take that over what the government has been saying since 1963 Oswald acted alone.
 

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lol. So no tv documentaries, no news programing, no books, or even the official report as the Warren commission stating that Oslwald did it alone.
Are you being this dense on purpose? In 54 years how many books, tv shows, or news reports have come out saying Oswald did it compared to the ones saying it was a conspiracy? Just what is the ratio? I'd venture it is in the 1000/1 conspiracy to official version range.
 

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The so-called strange behavior of the secret service post assassination is equally ridiculous. They were the first in the history of the branch to lose their charge. There was quilt, frustration, fear for the new President, and respect for Mrs. Kennedy's wishes all in play so it isn't difficult to see why they cleaned up the car and took JFK's body back to Washington.

You gotta feel for these guys. It was such an unenviable situation and something guys like Clint Hill have had to live with for their entire life. It had to be an incredible burden. These guys liked the President and his family and even covered for him, as did the media back in those days.

It is a waste of time. You have one quoting Wikipedia and Oliver Stone's completely fabricated JFK as sources of facts and another posting hack youtube clips by nuts looking to cash in on the conspiracy craze.

Folks will just believe what they want no matter how implausible or far fetched. It's just too hard to believe that one crazed man looking for attention could kill the most powerful leader in the world.
 
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