For The TO Fans... A Highlight Video

[khiladi]

that's all well and good but an "elite" player shouldn't need to be schemed into being effective.

Tell that to Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin when Dave Schula was our OC... Tell that to them when Bruce Coslett was OC of this team. I guess we didn't need a change in the schemes of our defense to suit our players like Ware, for him to get over 20 sacks? Why does Romo need a running game? Why are we scheming now for Romo, if an elite player should perform no matter the scheme? The fact is TO performed in the 'scheme' that wasn't suited to his talents, which is a testimony to his abilities. You people like he was garbage last year. Well, if he was garbage then the rest of the offense was even worse, from the OL to the second-string receivers to Crayton. Hell, even Witten's production dropped off.

The issue has nothing to do with scheming a player to be effective, it has to do with utilizing your talent to what suits them.

 

[khiladi]

You can have either WR right now.

Owens or Fitzgerald?

Who would you take?

If you say Owens I will break my ribs laughing.

If Garrett is the OC, the question is really mute. Teams would just double Fitzgerald just like they did TO, and Garrett wouldn't be able to adjust. The Arizona Cardinals haven't done crap for years, even with Larry, and all of the sudden people think he would take the Cowboys to the top? The Cardinals were tanking at the end of last season offensively, and the only reason they actually played well in the play-offs is because their OC actually went back to running the ball. The Cardinals adjusted their play-calling. Last I checked, the Cowboys still have to deal with the same issues, among them, the fact that Garrett can't devise schemes to keep the pressure off of Romo to even throw it to Larry...

Wow... Larry can make some amazing catches in double-coverage... Doesn't mean it happens all the time or it would be a consistent thing...

 

[khiladi]

If TO played for Philly last season, he would've had at least 1200 yards and 12 td's, even with his "declining skills". The reason would be that Andy Reid is brilliant when it comes to creating schemes to get a guy open. This is where our Offensive Coordinator let us down last year. A simple scheme that some of our players even hinted at was figured out by the league last year. I hope he's adjusted this off-season.
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And that is the real reason why this team crapped... It is funny that TO gets all the blame, but when people want to blame Romo and everybody else, suddenly injuries or the fact that the OL can't block are the issue... Even Garrett's pathetic game-calling is attributed to trying to force the ball to TO... As if the OL not blocking somehow only affects Romo and the rest of the team, but not TO...

 

[Juke99]

That #9 guy at QB looks pretty good in this tribute.

 

[Hostile]

If Garrett is the OC, the question is really mute. Teams would just double Fitzgerald just like they did TO, and Garrett wouldn't be able to adjust. The Arizona Cardinals haven't done crap for years, even with Larry, and all of the sudden people think he would take the Cowboys to the top? The Cardinals were tanking at the end of last season offensively, and the only reason they actually played well in the play-offs is because their OC actually went back to running the ball. The Cardinals adjusted their play-calling. Last I checked, the Cowboys still have to deal with the same issues, among them, the fact that Garrett can't devise schemes to keep the pressure off of Romo to even throw it to Larry...

Wow... Larry can make some amazing catches in double-coverage... Doesn't mean it happens all the time or it would be a consistent thing...

:laugh2:

I would have made money if I had bet what tack your answer would be. You are so predictable it's hilarious.

 

[khiladi]

It is easy for the TO-haters to paint the picture as Tony Romo versus Terrell Owens, because Romo is the franchise QB that the Cowboys have finally found... It is easy even nor Stephen and Jerry to paint it as such, because that is what the people want to here.

But the dispute throughout the year was between Jason Garrett and TO.

 

[khiladi]

:laugh2:

I would have made money if I had bet what tack your answer would be. You are so predictable it's hilarious.

I would replace the term 'predictable' with 'consistent'... So what if the answer was what you were expecting? That doesn't take anything away from the argument and the two issues are mutually un-related.

BTW, weren't you one of those that said this offense would be un-stoppable with Roy Williams added to the roster?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

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That was nice.
Saw some REAL good teammate comradery there. Anyways.

The vid just reminds me of how we could have done something with TO while he was a Cowboy. Not because of TO but with TO.

Organization let us down. Then TO let us down. Both at fault.

 

[DallasEast]

You can have either WR right now.

Owens or Fitzgerald?

Who would you take?

If Garrett is the OC, the question is really mute.

I would pay Quarterback Coach good money for him to reply, "JASON GARRETT'S IN YOUR HEAD!!!11!"

:laugh2:

 

[Apollo Creed]

That #9 guy at QB looks pretty good in this tribute.

Same thing I was thinking.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

You can have either WR right now.

Owens or Fitzgerald?

Who would you take?

If you say Owens I will break my ribs laughing.

Even I would take Fitz. Better hands, no drama and a superfreak.

 

[Hostile]

I would replace the term 'predictable' with 'consistent'... So what if the answer was what you were expecting? That doesn't take anything away from the argument and the two issues are mutually un-related.

BTW, weren't you one of those that said this offense would be un-stoppable with Roy Williams added to the roster?

I wouldn't. It doesn't fit at all.

Yes, but we never saw that given all of the other injuries. Let me remind you. Kosier, Witten, Adams, Barber, Jones, and Romo. 6 key players on Offense hurt and the main guy, the trigger man, at less than 100% is impossible for any team.

 

[khiladi]

I wouldn't. It doesn't fit at all.

Yes, but we never saw that given all of the other injuries. Let me remind you. Kosier, Witten, Adams, Barber, Jones, and Romo. 6 key players on Offense hurt and the main guy, the trigger man, at less than 100% is impossible for any team.

I thought it was because we were forcing the ball to TO or his eroding skills? Now your telling me it is impossible any team could have won, which means it would be impossible even if, TO was the good guy, cheering on the locker room, didn't have eroding skills or we had LF instead of him.

Understand the meaning of the word 'consistency' next time..

 

[Apollo Creed]

I wouldn't. It doesn't fit at all.

Yes, but we never saw that given all of the other injuries. Let me remind you. Kosier, Witten, Adams, Barber, Jones, and Romo. 6 key players on Offense hurt and the main guy, the trigger man, at less than 100% is impossible for any team.

But even with those cold harsh facts staring a 35 year old man dead in the face, it was still all about him.

 

[adbutcher]

Tell that to Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin when Dave Schula was our OC... Tell that to them when Bruce Coslett was OC of this team. I guess we didn't need a change in the schemes of our defense to suit our players like Ware, for him to get over 20 sacks? Why does Romo need a running game? Why are we scheming now for Romo, if an elite player should perform no matter the scheme? The fact is TO performed in the 'scheme' that wasn't suited to his talents, which is a testimony to his abilities. You people like he was garbage last year. Well, if he was garbage then the rest of the offense was even worse, from the OL to the second-string receivers to Crayton. Hell, even Witten's production dropped off.

The issue has nothing to do with scheming a player to be effective, it has to do with utilizing your talent to what suits them.

You make a great argument. However, I am done looking backwards I just hope boy genius and the rest of the team can step it up. Also, I hope TO don't have a great season this season, I don't think that I could stand it personally.

 

[Hostile]

I thought it was because we were forcing the ball to TO or his eroding skills? Now your telling me it is impossible any team could have won, which means it would be impossible even if, we suppose for the sake of argument that TO was the good guy, cheering on the locker room. Suddenly, it's the injuries that caused this offense, including Roy Williams, to fail.

Understand the meaning of the word 'consistency' next time..

Show me where I have been on the "forcing the ball to TO bandwagon."

I'll wait while you search in vain.

Swing and a whiff.

 

[Hostile]

But even with those cold harsh facts staring a 35 year old man dead in the face, it was still all about him.

Your point will be completely ignored.........and it shouldn't be.

 

[khiladi]

Show me where I have been on the "forcing the ball to TO bandwagon."

I'll wait while you search in vain.

Swing and a whiff.

To quote Hostile:

They called his number more than enough for a guy with eroding skills.

Now they don't have to worry about that, Buffalo does.

Besides the fact you completely ignored the point, which is you stated it is 100 percent impossible for any team to win with those injuries, which means a team with LF couldn't even win, let alone TO...

 

[Hostile]

To quote Hostile:

That isn't the same thing. I have consistently said the collapse was due to injuries. Saying he got his number called "more than enough" is not saying them calling his number is the reason this team collapsed.

Nice try. Swing and another whiff.

 

[khiladi]

That isn't the same thing. I have consistently said the collapse was due to injuries. Saying he got his number called "more than enough" is not saying them calling his number is the reason this team collapsed.

Nice try. Swing and another whiff.

Let me repeat for you your own words:

Show me where I have been on the "forcing the ball to TO bandwagon."

Your statement that I brought asserted two things:

1. They called his number more than enough.
2. His skills were eroding.

That in a nutshell is exactly what you asked for... I swung and not only hit a home-run, it was a grand slam that went out of the ball-park...

Besides the fact, that I asserted many things in that post, among them a direct remark against the claim that he was a locker-room cancer and it affected the team, and with him gone they can get back to winning. And I really don't think I need to do a search for that one.