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Hostile;2818118 said:You've got to quit sending those lying things out man.
You saying I'm not a dead ringer for George Clooney? Boy, you think you know a guy.
Hostile;2818118 said:You've got to quit sending those lying things out man.
birdwells1;2818109 said:This makes you sound really dumb.
Rosemary Clooney. Clean your ears out.bbgun;2818125 said:You saying I'm not a dead ringer for George Clooney? Boy, you think you know a guy.
:laugh2:theWave21;2818143 said:Yes it does mean something. It means when a team has an elite wide receiver, defenses must gameplan to stop him. This should create opportunities for others on the team, if the scheme is a good one. Didn't really see that down the stretch.
Teams that didn't gameplan to stop TO, like the 49ers as mentioned earlier, he lit them up and the offense rolled. If defenses can line up with 8 in the box this year, it's season over! If Roy can't beat single coverage like last year, it's season over! If Jason Garrett didn't make changes this year, it's season over! Having an elite receiver like TO makes everyone else's job easier, just remember that.
theWave21;2818143 said:Yes it does mean something. It means when a team has an elite wide receiver, defenses must gameplan to stop him. This should create opportunities for others on the team, if the scheme is a good one. Didn't really see that down the stretch.
Teams that didn't gameplan to stop TO, like the 49ers as mentioned earlier, he lit them up and the offense rolled. If defenses can line up with 8 in the box this year, it's season over! If Roy can't beat single coverage like last year, it's season over! If Jason Garrett didn't make changes this year, it's season over! Having an elite receiver like TO makes everyone else's job easier, just remember that.
Hoofbite;2817690 said:Probably a good thing that wasn't what I was doing.
Just pointing out the games where he "disappeared".
ScipioCowboy;2818147 said:Interesting theory. Reality tells a different story, though.
Not only did the Cowboys have an "elite receiver like TO" last season, they had TO himself. However, contrary to your conjecture, he didn't make anyone's life easier. Quite the opposite, actually -- he made everyone's life more difficult by being a whiny, divisive snit.
Furthermore, the Cowboys last season possessed every quality you enumerated yet it was still "season over!"
birdwells1;2818188 said:This more of an indictment of the OC than it is TO. With TO you were practically playing 10 against 9 and we still couldn't beat it.
theWave21;2818152 said:I blame Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett more than anyone else for last year. Especially Garrett. When the players say other teams had their scheme figured out, it's over.
I'm not naive enough to think that TO's whining didn't cause problems, because it did, but i'm simply saying that life might be more difficult without him.
birdwells1;2818188 said:This more of an indictment of the OC than it is TO. With TO you were practically playing 10 against 9 and we still couldn't beat it.
Post of the day.ScipioCowboy;2818256 said:I have yet to give my full opinion on TO's departure, and you've provided me an excellent opportunity.
TO remains a good receiver; however, early last season, it became obvious he had lost the ability to beat double teams and press coverage consistently. The Green Bay Packers were the first team to expose this age-induced deficiency in TO's game; with safety help over the top, Charles Woodson jammed TO at the line, and he was held to a meager 2 receptions for 17 yards.
However, the Cowboys showed patience against Green Bay. Despite little offensive success early in the game, they were persistent with their running game -- Marion Barber and Felix Jones -- and relied on Miles Austin, who made two big plays downfield. The Cowboys pulled away in the final quarter, and won by a healthy margin.
The following week, Washington employed the same strategy, jamming TO at the line with safety help over the top. Unfortunately, the Cowboys did not demonstrate the same patience they had in the previous game: They ran the ball only 8 times; failed to give Felix Jones a single carry; and, did not incorporate Miles Austin until it was too late.
Did Garrett suddenly forget how to utilize his abundance of weapons? Of course not. He was trying to placate his mercurial but vociferously selfish wide receiver, who, despite being thrown to 20 times during the game, still managed to complain about a lack of opportunities. From there, the offense went on a downward spiral.
Unquestionably, TO creates opportunities for other players. But he must be willing to let other players take advantage of those opportunities and share in his spotlight -- especially when his skills are clearly detiorating.
You see, football is not only about gaining a strategic advantage. It's also about gaining a psychological advantage. By scheming to completely remove TO from ball distribution, opponents knew he would eventually combust and consume the entire team with his ire and discontent.
In order to become a balanced offense and utilize every weapon at their disposal, Jason Garrett and the Dallas Cowboys must be patient -- as they were against Green Bay. Unfortunately, TO was not going to let them be patient.
ScipioCowboy;2818256 said:I have yet to give my full opinion on TO's departure, and you've provided me an excellent opportunity.
TO remains a good receiver; however, early last season, it became obvious he had lost the ability to beat double teams and press coverage consistently. The Green Bay Packers were the first team to expose this age-induced deficiency in TO's game; with safety help over the top, Charles Woodson jammed TO at the line, and he was held to a meager 2 receptions for 17 yards.
However, the Cowboys showed patience against Green Bay. Despite little offensive success early in the game, they were persistent with their running game -- Marion Barber and Felix Jones -- and relied on Miles Austin, who made two big plays downfield. The Cowboys pulled away in the final quarter, and won by a healthy margin.
The following week, Washington employed the same strategy, jamming TO at the line with safety help over the top. Unfortunately, the Cowboys did not demonstrate the same patience they had in the previous game: They ran the ball only 8 times; failed to give Felix Jones a single carry; and, did not incorporate Miles Austin until it was too late.
Did Garrett suddenly forget how to utilize his abundance of weapons? Of course not. He was trying to placate his mercurial but vociferously selfish wide receiver, who, despite being thrown to 20 times during the game, still managed to complain about a lack of opportunities. From there, the offense went on a downward spiral.
Unquestionably, TO creates opportunities for other players. But he must be willing to let other players take advantage of those opportunities and share in his spotlight -- especially when his skills are clearly detiorating.
You see, football is not only about gaining a strategic advantage. It's also about gaining a psychological advantage. By scheming to completely remove TO from ball distribution, opponents knew he would eventually combust and consume the entire team with his ire and discontent.
In order to become a balanced offense and utilize every weapon at their disposal, Jason Garrett and the Dallas Cowboys must be patient -- as they were against Green Bay. Unfortunately, TO was not going to let them be patient.
Hostile;2818289 said:Post of the day.
ScipioCowboy;2818256 said:The Green Bay Packers were the first team to expose this age-induced deficiency in TO's game; with safety help over the top, Charles Woodson jammed TO at the line, and he was held to a meager 2 receptions for 17 yards.
While an interesting take, the season really didn't bear this out/ScipioCowboy;2818256 said:I have yet to give my full opinion on TO's departure, and you've provided me an excellent opportunity.
TO remains a good receiver; however, early last season, it became obvious he had lost the ability to beat double teams and press coverage consistently. The Green Bay Packers were the first team to expose this age-induced deficiency in TO's game; with safety help over the top, Charles Woodson jammed TO at the line, and he was held to a meager 2 receptions for 17 yards.
However, the Cowboys showed patience against Green Bay. Despite little offensive success early in the game, they were persistent with their running game -- Marion Barber and Felix Jones -- and relied on Miles Austin, who made two big plays downfield. The Cowboys pulled away in the final quarter, and won by a healthy margin.
The following week, Washington employed the same strategy, jamming TO at the line with safety help over the top. Unfortunately, the Cowboys did not demonstrate the same patience they had in the previous game: They ran the ball only 8 times; failed to give Felix Jones a single carry; and, did not incorporate Miles Austin until it was too late.
Did Garrett suddenly forget how to utilize his abundance of weapons? Of course not. He was trying to placate his mercurial but vociferously selfish wide receiver, who, despite being thrown to 20 times during the game, still managed to complain about a lack of opportunities. From there, the offense went on a downward spiral.
Unquestionably, TO creates opportunities for other players. But he must be willing to let other players take advantage of those opportunities and share in his spotlight -- especially when his skills are clearly detiorating.
You see, football is not only about gaining a strategic advantage. It's also about gaining a psychological advantage. By scheming to completely remove TO from ball distribution, opponents knew he would eventually combust and consume the entire team with his ire and discontent.
In order to become a balanced offense and utilize every weapon at their disposal, Jason Garrett and the Dallas Cowboys must be patient -- as they were against Green Bay. Unfortunately, TO was not going to let them be patient.
I never stated that the season was "lost" after the Washington game or "due to GB's coverage." I asserted that the offense became less effective once GB revealed TO's inability to beat press coverage consistently and TO began complaining about a lack of opportunities.McLovin;2818331 said:While an interesting take, the season really didn't bear this out/
- The season was not lost was not lost on the Washington loss or due to GB's coverage. GB got torhed. If Washington mimicked them, why didn't the same occur? If Garrett changed his play calling because of TO, then he is not a leader and showed it more in that game than any other. The Def was atrocious that game.
Although your other points are interesting, they have absolutely no bearing on my argument. I'm only addressing why the offense struggled and why TO's departure was necessary for the offense to improve.TO may have diminished some, but the offense as a whole underperformed except for FElix. Most due to the OC in my opinion, the remainder mostly from injuries and Romo "punts"
- Any game with Brad Johnson is a throw away. Who lobbied for him and thought he could drive the bus?
- The Az game was a special teams disaster. KO for a TD to open and a blocked punt for a TD to end it. Smatter in 3 sacks and 3 fumbles (4 and 4 if not for the tuck rule).
- Pitt game was a pick 6 for a TD.
- Baltimore was a Punt to RW11 picked by Ed Reed followed by a "punt" to TO before the half, :09 left, that led to 3 points. Then Hamlins little ole helped to seal it. If that INT before the half were a punt, the score likely could have been Dall up by 1pt before the 2 70yd TDS - different game nonetheless
Hostile;2818289 said:Post of the day.
LeonDixson;2818293 said:Plus 1!
bbgun;2818296 said:And there were a number of instances when he wasn't "pressed" at all.
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