For those that say no big deal with deflating a football

[CATCH17]

Never heard that.

All I do know is one of the greatest offensive teams, St. Louis, was shut down and the Rams players said the Pats knew every call and every play. I definitely never heard about a team doing that well in cheating.

They are now reapeat offenders and Known cheaters.

They were also getting mugged by the PAts DB's.

I felt like that had more to do with anything then knowing the plays.

 

[mahoneybill]

Nowhere did Rodgers say he has the lockeroom attendant put more air in the balls after they have been checked by the refs. He was merely stating that different QBs like the ball with different levels of air in them. There is a big difference in submitting balls to the refs that are at or over the edge and allowing them to fix or not fix them as opposed to turning in balls that meet the rules and them letting air out after they were checked by the refs. Huge, huge difference.

Thanks for the clarification. Thought it was otherwise, but wasn't able to find any info on his preference being " over the limit"

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

If we had our balls deflated a little do we go onto the NFC Championship game last season?

1. Does DeMarco fumble?
2. Does that ball come out of Dez's grip?

Never half understood the hate for the Pats. Don't we half better teams to hate on, like the Eagles and ***skins?

 

[Zekeats]

Never half understood the hate for the Pats. Don't we half better teams to hate on, like the Eagles and ***skins?

It's not hate but nice try.

 

[DogFace]

More or less...he said it was one of the first things he was taught while he was in KC.

That's not what STL said. They said the Pats knew checks that had been worked on in walkthrough.

Ok. They're cheaters and got caught. Again.

 

[Plankton]

That ball was wet and brand new. They changed the rules after that to allow teams to use their own broken in balls.

As for the QBs; some much prefer them highly inflated and some like them less inflated. More of a preference thing.

One thing that has always bothered me with regards to the Seattle debacle - if the ball was really as slick as it appeared, how was L.P. Ladouceur able to execute the snap to Romo flawlessly?

Not killing Romo here, but it begs the question.

 

[pansophy]

Turnovers are one of very few stats that highly correlates with wins. If a deflated ball makes it less likely to fumble (or throw an INT) then this affects every play of every game that the balls are deflated in a way that is highly correlated with winning games.

The more I think about that the more I think Brady and the Pats are getting off easy.

 

[DogFace]

One thing that has always bothered me with regards to the Seattle debacle - if the ball was really as slick as it appeared, how was L.P. Ladouceur able to execute the snap to Romo flawlessly?

Not killing Romo here, but it begs the question.

Because it was sitting on the ground. Not moving through the air.

 

[DFWJC]

One thing that has always bothered me with regards to the Seattle debacle - if the ball was really as slick as it appeared, how was L.P. Ladouceur able to execute the snap to Romo flawlessly?

Not killing Romo here, but it begs the question.

LP is pretty brilliant at his job. Plus, having time to place your hands on a ball before snapping it takes away the element of surprise, as he had plenty of time to grip it. Still, I really don't think they greased the ball or anything crazy like that.
It just looked like a new, non broken-in ball. The play still should have been executed, new/slick ball or not. It's just that beginning the next year, Dallas would have used their own broken-in kicking balls. We'll never know--who's to say the muff still wouldn't have happened. I doubt it, but we'll never know.

Also, no telling...a QB who just drove his team the length of the field to take the lead probably has worked up a nice sweat too. The odds of that same player being the holder on the kicking team is next to zero.

 

[CrownCowboy]

I have been hearing more people on TV and the radio keep saying that it really isn't a big deal that Brady deflated footballs and that it really didn't make a difference. I've never heard such crap in all of my life.

When it's warm and dry outside, the ball has alittle give in it and is easier to throw. When it's cold or wet outside, the ball hardens up and doesn't have that give in it which makes it harder to throw. Brady had the balls stolen and deflated to give him an advantage and he did it for the AFC Championship game and probably for years. It's really not that hard to grasp what that cheater did and now he is hasn't been cooperative.

It really is that simple.