For Those Who Would Have Sold The Draft to Get Crabtree

[YosemiteSam]

Was he drafted #3? Nope, then shut up and take #10 money. You are what you are. You would have been drafted #3 if the guy at #3 thought you were worth it. Obviously he though someone else was more worthy of that pick. You weren't worthy of 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 either.

 

[Doomsday101]

Allow me to be the first to say I think Crabtree has bust written all over him.

I think the guy is going to be a heck of an NFL WR. I also think he will not get what he wants and will get signed sometimes during camp.

 

[TheCount]

And then Crabtree sits out.

How does that benefit the 49ers, the league or the fans? Or even Crabtree, who may lose a year of his career because he decided he was worth more than anyone else thinks he is and is too young and stupid to know any better (not to mention probably being pushed by an agent with no regard for any of the above)?

And stop making normal business analogies, the NFL is not the same as insurance company or a bank. Goldman Sachs isn't told which top accountant they are allowed to hire and top accountants aren't told which firm they are allowed to sign up with. If Crabtree doesn't want to sign with the 9ers they can't just go get the next best guy, they are screwed.

The NFL is the same as any other business. Contracts are drawn up, executed and funded. The rules that are in place were put in place by the NFL and it's Players Union to manage the various franchises.

The fact that we love Football so much doesn't change the reality that it is, in the end, just a business.

 

[DFWJC]

Was he drafted #3? Nope, then shut up and take #10 money. You are what you are. You would have been drafted #3 if the guy at #3 thought you were worth it. Obviously he though someone else was more worthy of that pick. You weren't worthy of 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 either.

Ya got that right.
It's a negotiating ploy by his agent....trying to eventually get #6 or 7 money.

The draft just worked out wrong for Crabtree.
**KC passed on Curry and took Jackson
**Seattle (who may have taken MC) then happily snagged Curry
**Then the Jets moved up in the 5 hole, so Cleveland didn't take him at 5.
**Then the Raiders were, well the Raiders, and took at WR not nearly as good as MC (orHarvin or Maclin possibly)
**Both the Bengals and Raiders passed on a great OT prospect in Monroe...so the Jags took him instead of MC.

Pretty comical really...but that is how it fell and you live with it.

 

[sonnyboy]

There will be a rookie cap coming in with the next collective bargaining agreement. Pretty much, the veteran players agree with the sentiment expressed here that these rookies don't deserve these paydays just on spec.
The NFLPA will use it as a bargaining chip in the negotiations, but they'll give it up. There will be a rookie cap of some sort.

Otherwise, the argument here seems to be between 'He's stupid to do this' (which imo is true), and 'He's completely within his rights to try it' (which is also pretty much true).

Can't imagine this isn't going to 'cause some ill will for Crabtree though.

This is what really ticks me off. When a union uses an issue such as this as a bargining chip when the issue clearly has benefit to both the union/players and the owners.

Same deal in Baseball with steriod testing.

The NFL Players Union is just being pig headed about this. A rookie cap offers far greater benefit to the majority of the players than it does the owners. Yet the union insists on using it as a bargining chip.

NFL's hard cap is what it is. Teams are paying out what they are paying out. How much is allocated to rookies has zero impact on their bottom line.

 

[5mics]

I agree there should be a rookie cap because these guys shouldn't be able to even have the shot to come in and demand contracts that are bigger than players who've already proven they can actually play at the NFL level.

That said I can't exactly hate on people for trying to get all the money they can, when they can, because it's what everyone does, just on different scales.

I mean if you're out searching for a job and have applied at 4 different companies, all doing the same type of work, you're not going to join the company paying the least simply because you haven't proven yourself with that place yet. You're going to sign for the absolute most you can get, out of which ever of the 4, and be quite pleased with yourself for doing so. It's just the vast majority of us don't have the ability to do that in terms of millions of dollars at a time.

I figured something THIS logical would get over-looked. There, at least one person has paid attention & agrees w/ your point!

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Allow me to be the first to say I think Crabtree has bust written all over him.

He will be a MAJOR bust. We're talking Mike Williams here..Spread offense recievers just don't translate to the NFL. Wes Welker is the only one I can think of and he is a completely different type of reciever. Crabby's stats were inflated since Harrell threw the ball 60 times a game. He's a little diva and that foot problem is concerning. This just set back the Niners another 5 years.

 

[Dawgs0916]

Allow me to be the first to say I think Crabtree has bust written all over him.

Blah blah blah. Your definitely not the first to say it, so i hope you wear your shoulder out patting yourself on the back.

But the brightside is that you wont have to be the first one to eat crow when he does what he's capable of doing.

 

[Dawgs0916]

He will be a MAJOR bust. We're talking Mike Williams here..Spread offense recievers just don't translate to the NFL. Wes Welker is the only one I can think of and he is a completely different type of reciever. Crabby's stats were inflated since Harrell threw the ball 60 times a game. He's a little diva and that foot problem is concerning. This just set back the Niners another 5 years.

LMAO. I can't get over people on here talking like they know players personally

 

[SLATEmosphere]

LMAO. I can't get over people on here talking like they know players personally

When there's multiple reports from multiple sources then ya I tend to listen. Anyone hear about Maclin being a diva?

Spread offense recievers have never accomplished anything in the NFL. Crabtree won't be any different. Plus he'll probably hold out and throw away his 2009 season.

Where's Grahm Harrell??

 

[DFWJC]

Allow me to be the first to say I think Crabtree has bust written all over him.

No way.

But if holds out he will be handicapping a strong start.

They already have two good receivers--one old, but productive guy (Isaac Bruce) and one very talented young guy (Josh Morgan).

Still, unless he has a career threatening injury, I say he will be dominant by his third year.

 

[DFWJC]

When there's multiple reports from multiple sources then ya I tend to listen. Anyone hear about Maclin being a diva?

Spread offense recievers have never accomplished anything in the NFL. Crabtree won't be any different. Plus he'll probably hold out and throw away his 2009 season.

Where's Grahm Harrell??

Yeah, that Harrell was a heckuva WR! Sorry, just had to go there.

Crabtree has Brandon Marshall written all over him...just hope it's not off the field too.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Yeah, that Harrell was a heckuva WR! Sorry, just had to go there.

Crabtree has Brandon Marshall written all over him...just hope it's not off the field too.

Those system guys are all the same. Inflated stats. Mizzou,Florida,Texas Tech..all put out garbage NFL offensive products.

 

[Doomsday101]

Blah blah blah. Your definitely not the first to say it, so i hope you wear your shoulder out patting yourself on the back.

But the brightside is that you wont have to be the first one to eat crow when he does what he's capable of doing.

I agree. I think Crabtree is the real deal. I normally would not say that about most run and shoot or offense systems like Tech runs but Crabtree in my view is different. He has good speed, runs good routs and has very good strength. He is a difference maker. As for being a Diva, I don't know maybe he is as many other WR are.

I'm not even concerned about eating Crow. :laugh2:

 

[Dawgs0916]

When there's multiple reports from multiple sources then ya I tend to listen. Anyone hear about Maclin being a diva?

Spread offense recievers have never accomplished anything in the NFL. Crabtree won't be any different. Plus he'll probably hold out and throw away his 2009 season.

Where's Grahm Harrell??

I tried to go back and look through posts to see where Graham Harrell was mentioned, but I couldn't find it

Crabtree was a 4 star recruit coming out of high school, and played big time when it mattered, and dominated when it didn't as well.

How many WRs make that catch and run against Texas?

Played through injuries, even if it was going to hamper his preparations for the draft. It's funny because on campus he was never thought of as a diva.

It's funny that people start calling him one right before the draft.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I tried to go back and look through posts to see where Graham Harrell was mentioned, but I couldn't find it

Crabtree was a 4 star recruit coming out of high school, and played big time when it mattered, and dominated when it didn't as well.

How many WRs make that catch and run against Texas?

Played through injuries, even if it was going to hamper his preparations for the draft. It's funny because on campus he was never thought of as a diva.

It's funny that people start calling him one right before the draft.

I've seen plenty of recievers of his skill set come and go. He's nothing different from any other Texas Tech or Florida recievers. Jabar Gaffney was supposes to be the next big thing.

Find me one spread offense reciever that has succeeded in the NFL and I will gladly put my foot in my mouth.

 

[Dawgs0916]

I've seen plenty of recievers of his skill set come and go. He's nothing different from any other Texas Tech or Florida recievers. Jabar Gaffney was supposes to be the next big thing.

Find me one spread offense reciever that has succeeded in the NFL and I will gladly put my foot in my mouth.

He has the size and speed combination of Crabtree? Not to mention incredible strength. With the hands and route running ability that he has?

Please!

You already mentioned one success story with Wes Welker, so already your foot should be in your mouth, even though they are different styles of players.

But why is it Welker didn't have the numbers or overall success that Crabtree had at Tech? Because Crabtree is head and shoulders better!

And those other Tech WRs had NFL practice squad capable QBs, lol. Something Crabtree obviously didn't have

 

[SLATEmosphere]

He has the size and speed combination of Crabtree? Not to mention incredible strength. With the hands and route running ability that he has?

Please!

You already mentioned one success story with Wes Welker, so already your foot should be in your mouth, even though they are different styles of players.

But why is it Welker didn't have the numbers or overall success that Crabtree had at Tech? Because Crabtree is head and shoulders better!

And those other Tech WRs had NFL practice squad capable QBs, lol. Something Crabtree obviously didn't have

LOL Okay..you go to TT so you are set in your ways. We'll agree to disagree.

 

[AsthmaField]

I wonder what his justification is for asking #3 money? Because he was projected to be a top 3 pick? Because he thinks he's better than Heyward Bey?

It's just ridiculous. If you get picked 10th, then by God you get slotted between 9 and 11.

 

[NeonDeion21]

I've seen plenty of recievers of his skill set come and go. He's nothing different from any other Texas Tech or Florida recievers. Jabar Gaffney was supposes to be the next big thing.

Find me one spread offense reciever that has succeeded in the NFL and I will gladly put my foot in my mouth.

Lil Danny! :laugh2: oh wait..nevermind