For Those Who Would Have Sold The Draft to Get Crabtree

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Dawgs0916;2857917 said:
Its really either people think hes the next coming, or the never was.

It's going to be the latter. I have no idea where a Randy Moss comparison fits with him. That couldn't be more wrong and polar opposite from what he is. Even you have to admit that. He's not a burner. He will never stretch the field like Moss. He's a possesion reciever at best. If anything he's a Roy Williams/Boldin reciever. He'll probably end up like Mike Williams though:cool:

To the person who said Crabtree is the next Randy Moss...FAIL.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2857939 said:
It's going to be the latter. I have no idea where a Randy Moss comparison fits with him. That couldn't be more wrong and polar opposite from what he is. Even you have to admit that. He's not a burner. He will never stretch the field like Moss. He's a possesion reciever at best. If anything he's a Roy Williams/Boldin reciever. He'll probably end up like Mike Williams though:cool:

To the person who said Crabtree is the next Randy Moss...FAIL.

Randy Moss couldn't be further away from the type of receiver Crabs is.

Boldin was a great comparison. That is who he most reminds me of. Except with 10x the college pedigree, spread or no spread.

I think he probably compared him to Moss as in the fact he will take the league by storm and dominate off the bat. If I had to guess anyway, because that is a horrible comparison.
 

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Punk, idiot, who'll be a huge pain in the ***, ala TO, even if he racks up 12,000 yards, he still won't be worth his tude. Just a punk, through and through. He was obviously raised terribly wrong.
 

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Dawgs0916;2857917 said:
Its really either people think hes the next coming, or the never was.

Too true.

For what's it is worth, Lubbock news just reported that people are saying that his agent and the 49ers are not even close to making a deal.
 

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Big Dakota;2857962 said:
Punk, idiot, who'll be a huge pain in the ***, ala TO, even if he racks up 12,000 yards, he still won't be worth his tude. Just a punk, through and through. He was obviously raised terribly wrong.

Im just going to hold my tongue.

You wish you knew him personally to be able to make claims like those. Go back to your vanilla life, and find someone else to judge.

If you were being sarcastic and I couldn't tell, I apologize, but I doubt that is the case. To say that type of stuff without knowing someone is just disgusting.
 

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TheCount;2856999 said:
That's what I agreed to? It's not a con to negotiate a contract, no one has a gun to their head. Stop being so dramatic.

In the business world contracts like these get executed on a regular basis, there's no outrage there. It's not like NFL contracts are funded with tax payer dollars or anything. If the 49ers don't want to pay it, they don't have to.

No, because Jerry just built the modern day Roman Coliseum with 100% of his money.

NFL franchises are given tax incentives and money out of taxpayers pockets directly. Every stadium being built in the United States for the NFL gets taxpayer assistance not to mention governmental assistance in the form of eminent domain for land acquisitions.

NFL contracts are in part funded with tax payers $$$. Make no mistake about it.
 

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SaltwaterServr;2858099 said:
No, because Jerry just built the modern day Roman Coliseum with 100% of his money.

No he didn't... not even close...
 

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i hope nobody signs any of these stupid *** rookies, they are a bunch of jokes. go figure, these players make me sick.
 

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Dawgs0916;2857875 said:
The quality of QB he will have in SF will be about the same he had at Tech.

I think the quaity of the QB in SF will be much better (at the pro level) than the one he had a Tech. Your boy is going to have a great career once he learns the nuances of how to handle press coverage and the pro game in general. His skills and physicality are made for the next level.
 

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monkey;2857906 said:
If he just wants to play, then he needs to fire his agent and signed the contract. I don't know Crabtree, but in general I find the whole "it's the agent" argument doesn't hold much water when the agent is your employee. .

It's not quite that easy. For starters, he has a contract with his agent. But yes, if there is an extended holdout, he may want to take the hit and get a new agent. Doing so this early in the game is completely unheard of. He hired the guy, so if he is a good "employer" he will let the guy do his job. At a later date, he can can him if he's not happy. As of now, there aren't too many #1s signed yet, so this point is moot.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2857939 said:
It's going to be the latter. I have no idea where a Randy Moss comparison fits with him. That couldn't be more wrong and polar opposite from what he is. Even you have to admit that. He's not a burner. He will never stretch the field like Moss. He's a possesion reciever at best. If anything he's a Roy Williams/Boldin reciever. He'll probably end up like Mike Williams though:cool:

To the person who said Crabtree is the next Randy Moss...FAIL.

He isn't anything like Moss. I said the best receiver since Moss. What I mean is he has all the intangibles...and when people talk about his speed, I giggle. Is that why when he was on the field he looked like a Pro playing against Highschoolers? He's got the strongest hands I've witnessed since Irvin....he doesn't let the ball come to him....he snatches it out of the air.
He is also a heck of a blocker also. He is the best receiver I've seen in college since Moss.

Did anybody ever think Mike Williams, was the best WR they had ever seen? The comparison is moot. Most people compare Crab to Andre Johnson.

Believe me Fitzgerald was a stud....he use to out jump everbody for the ball...that's still his game, great body control. Moss was just a skinny freak that could burn, out jump, and adjust to any ball. Calvin J was just a huge freakish athlete, unfortunatly he didn't have a QB at GT.

Crabtree is a little of all of them. You will see. I have NO doubt. And remember this kid should be going into his Junior season. He's not going to get 3rd pick money, but if he did.....he would be worth every penny.
 

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Michael Crabtree = Brandon Marshall ......on the field...if all goes right.
 

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DFWJC;2858191 said:
I think the quaity of the QB in SF will be much better (at the pro level) than the one he had a Tech. Your boy is going to have a great career once he learns the nuances of how to handle press coverage and the pro game in general. His skills and physicality are made for the next level.

I was being facetious since Slate was mocking Harrell being in the CFL...I know his QBs will be better, but they aren't exactly pro bowlers out there in SF.
 

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Dawgs0916;2858717 said:
I was being facetious since Slate was mocking Harrell being in the CFL...I know his QBs will be better, but they aren't exactly pro bowlers out there in SF.

Harrell>>>Shaun Hill.
 

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Doomsday101;2856805 said:
I agree there needs to be a cap on rookies. Having said that under the current rules there is not and if Crabtree want to hold out for a better deal then more power to him. Only issues I tend to have with players are with those already under contract who try and holdout. Once you sign the contract I do expect the player to honor that contract.

Hey Doomsday, I agree totally that there should be a rookie cap...I think most people have been saying that for years. However I completely disagree with your last statement about honoring contracts.

If contracts were guaranteed that would be one thing, but they are not, and as such owners can drop these guys at any time. That's why I never disagreed and only supported TO's actions in Philly.

Just my 2 cents.
 

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DFWJC;2858198 said:
It's not quite that easy. For starters, he has a contract with his agent. But yes, if there is an extended holdout, he may want to take the hit and get a new agent. Doing so this early in the game is completely unheard of. He hired the guy, so if he is a good "employer" he will let the guy do his job. At a later date, he can can him if he's not happy. As of now, there aren't too many #1s signed yet, so this point is moot.

I am sure there would be some legalities involved, but it is far from impossible. A good employer doesn't allow for his employee to go against his wishes in contract negotiation. If the agent is going against what he wants, then I would think it wouldn't be such a hard thing to fire him, regardless of the financial penalty. It just seems like an easy scapegoat for players/coaches (not trying to bust just on Crabtree) to say "I want to just play/coach, but my agent won't let me."

Sure, there aren't many first rounders signed yet, but there is a reason there is a seven page thread on him not signing and pretty much no talk of the others. FWIW, I read one article that speculated (yea, I know, just speculation) that many others are holding out waiting to see how Crabtree's situation goes.

And I'm not saying that Crabtree should be firing his agent, but given the negative coverage so far, the potential damage this does to your image, and people saying it is against his wishes, then it would seem prudent to consider that sooner rather than later.
 
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