Former Patriots Video Assistant Speaks!...Pats taped Rams walkthrough before SB?

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Nors;1937532 said:
Whats ironic is that only the Patriots have ever figured out how to do this. Rest of NFL is so snow white and clean. I'm starting to side with the Cheatriot haters/.

Didn't Commanders pull this crap in 1970's?
I don't think you know what "ironic" means.
 

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ologan;1937528 said:
And I coulda swore I saw film of him driving a BIG Ryder truck up next to the World Trade Center on 9-11-01!

BB and Pioli are behind getting all illegal immigrants into this country, were at Waco, AND Listen to Rock and Roll records.......

btw - Tomasse is a joke Boston writer trying to make a splash.
 

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Nors;1937536 said:
BB and Pioli are behind getting all illegal immigrants into this country, were at Waco, AND Listen to Rock and Roll records.......

btw - Tomasse is a joke Boston writer trying to make a splash.

And Jose Canseco's book was full of total lies.
 

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speedkilz88;1937531 said:
Just wishful thinking Nors. Have you ever had a conversation without coming up with some far out rediculous statement?

No you point blank made that statement off topic insinuating personal harm. Glad to hear you were just hopefull that harm might come my way.

Enjoy the Super Bowl tomorrow. It's just a game.
 

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speedkilz88;1937513 said:
Whoever said, "Cheaters never prosper" doesn't know a hill of beans.

The Cowboys cheated before our game against the Bills in Atlanta and prospered.

Good point.
 

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Nors;1937539 said:
No you point blank made that statement off topic insinuating personal harm. Glad to hear you were just hopefull that harm might come my way.

Enjoy the Super Bowl tomorrow. It's just a game.
You are just one miserable human being aren't you Nors. Maybe you should lighten up and actually realize the world does not revolve around you, no matter how much you want it to. It was a joke because you brought up all these bad things/tragedies that had nothing to do with this thread. (Which was off topic) HOW IRONIC!
 

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Nors;1937532 said:
Whats ironic is that only the Patriots have ever figured out how to do this. Rest of NFL is so snow white and clean. I'm starting to side with the Cheatriot haters/.

Didn't Commanders pull this crap in 1970's?
You have point...but I always found it amazing that the Patriots were always one step ahead in strategy and game planning. Belicheck is a good coach but the way they are always one step ahead...you have to wonder about these allegations.
Throw in the fact that the league has a double standard as far as the fines and suspensions. If you are not a Patriot fan you have to hate this team and the organization as a whole.
A lot of teams cheat but did the Patriots take it to another level?
These guys were accused many times by different teams that they were video taping there signals. They were warned by the NFL. Then they were finally caught red-handed. For a team that was warned the punishment that Goodell handed down did not fit the crime in my opinion.
They lose thier 1st round pick with Belicheck not being suspended...weak!
The fine should have been that they lose thier highest 1st round pick, which ever that may be, and Belicheck gets suspended for games.
The punishment was weak and now the evidence has been destroyed...Wilfork fined 4 times but still gets to play. It's a double standard.
 

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SuperCows5Xs;1937334 said:
Well you've gotta love Arlen Specter's timing in all this too, being Superbowl week.:(

Between this and the baseball steroid stuff, you've got to wonder why these guys don't have anything better to do.

Imagine the free time the must have without a war and declining economy.
 

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SuperCows5Xs;1937334 said:
Well you've gotta love Arlen Specter's timing in all this too, being Superbowl week.:(

Wow...as stated in another thread he sent a letter to the Patriots back in November(and maybe one more later?). He gave them a chance to talk early and they ignored him.
 

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abersonc;1937333 said:
This is such a non-story.

He's saying nothing but "pay me for the real story" and guys who have been writing about the Pats for weeks on end now have run out of stories so they run this

It was my understanding that he wants money/protection from the legal ramafications that inevetably will come from the Pats/NFL.

I agree it's a non-story because the evidence (if any) has been destroyed.
 

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SuperCows5Xs;1937334 said:
Well you've gotta love Arlen Specter's timing in all this too, being Superbowl week.:(

I believe Specter sent a letter on November 15th and Goodell got back to him on January 31st.

So whine if you want to about Goodell.
 

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Nors;1937532 said:
Whats ironic is that only the Patriots have ever figured out how to do this. Rest of NFL is so snow white and clean. I'm starting to side with the Cheatriot haters/.

Didn't Commanders pull this crap in 1970's?

That's why everyone wants this to go away. Obviously others have done it, but Belicheat took it to a different level and this allegation about taping their walk through goes way beyond any other allegation which only involved taping the other team during a game.
Is there any doubt the Pats taped the rams that season in their regular season game when the Rams won and handled the Pats easily?
 

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Nors;1937536 said:
BB and Pioli are behind getting all illegal immigrants into this country, were at Waco, AND Listen to Rock and Roll records.......

btw - Tomasse is a joke Boston writer trying to make a splash.

Face it, your team cheated and now is being called to task. Like the 1919 Black Sox this will put a blemish on them forever, I'm absolutely giddy now !
 

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Nors a lot of teams did it.......a lot of times tried it and stopped, like the Cowboys under Jimmy Johnson.

When the league found out, they warned all the teams.....which team continued to do it, the Patriots. They basically slapped the NFL across the face and chose to do as they pleased.

Belichick was an inferior head coach...he needed an edge or he was going to lose his job in NE the way he did in Cleveland. So he started cheating......his team was beginning to win, no one was any the wiser, so he continued.........and continued. All those players he brought in, he gave them the keys to spygate....and allowed them to flourish in his system of answers.

It is no wonder when playing the Patriots this decade, they always seem to be in the right place at the right time.....It is as if they are in the opponents huddle (well they are).

Then there is the love by the league. The Pats almost never get called for offensive holding. Their defense is allowed to be overly physical to down right dirty. They are allowed to cheap shot opponents with little to no recourse from the officials or league over this time span. Tom Brady is treated like a demi-God.....you cannot get near him or touch him without being flagged.....the league even busted out some obscure rule just for him and the Pats.....a play that has probably happened a hundred or so times since the rule was put into the books, and this is the first mention of it? The NFL has gift wrapped the Patriots Dynasty for them.

Then after Pats are caught on tape cheating........after they have made a mockery of Goodell.....he gives them a slap on the wrist, and makes himself look all the more like a court jester than he already was. Wade Wilson (a coach) gets suspended for 4-5 games for taking something for his health problem.......but the Pats completely destroy the integrity of the game for the Millennium and they get a slap on the wrist. This is what the fine should have been

Draft - Pats lose all 1st day picks and are banned from trading into the first day.
Kraft - Fined $500,000
Belichick - Fined $250,000 and suspended for 2 games without pay

And for added measure.......the 3 forfeited picks (SFs 1st, NEs 1st, and NEs 2nd) are placed into a lottery, where 3 lucky teams out of 31 will win the picks.

But it is over now....the Pats got away with murder.....as they murdered the integrity of the game......Goodell is in Kraft's back pocket and on his payroll. All the Chowds are foaming at the mouth at the greatness of their Pats....about their perfect season....blah blah blah

I am more convinced than ever that the Millennium Pats couldn't hold a candle to the 60s Packers, 70s Steelers, 80s Niners, or 90s Cowboys.......4 franchises that didn't have to cheat to win....

How Bout Dem Cheatriots
 

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Biggems;1937574 said:
It is no wonder when playing the Patriots this decade, they always seem to be in the right place at the right time.....It is as if they are in the opponents huddle (well they are).

So have they done it in the seventeen games after they were caught?

Had they collapsed and posted a five hundred season all of your points would be valid. But they didn't.
 

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Alexander;1937577 said:
So have they done it in the seventeen games after they were caught?

Had they collapsed and posted a five hundred season all of your points would be valid. But they didn't.
No, but they didn't have Randy Moss and Wes Welker in that past, either. But in any event, nobody is saying they aren't a good team. The Raiders could likely cheat and it wouldn't do them much good. It's the marginal edge it gives you that helps.
 

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Belicheck not being suspended was ridiculous.
The team was warned...and they still were caught red-handed.
Belicheck claimed he misunderstood the rule...yeah right!
You were warned several times.
Nobody has even mentioned about the mysterious things that happen when you play in New England and suddenly you lose communication with the sidelines or the pressbox. That has been monitored by the league after several teams made allegations about the times they lost communication.
If it was one thing you could dismiss it...but it's not.
They just keep piling up.
 
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