Former Patriots Video Assistant Speaks!...Pats taped Rams walkthrough before SB?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So the filming made Andy Reid call a terrible game and McNabb choke on his own vomit?

They won against the Rams and Packers too by three points as well. How on earth do you think vinaterri got the reps hes got. It certainly wasnt for his average.

If it was just an isolated incident you might have a point. Its not.

 

[Boysboy]

So the filming made Andy Reid call a terrible game and McNabb choke on his own vomit?

Or for that matter-did the filming make Mike Martz to stubbornly stay pass happy when the Pats played nickel the ENTIRE game, BEGGING them to run the ball against them?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Or for that matter-did the filming make Mike Martz to stubbornly stay pass happy when the Pats played nickel the ENTIRE game, BEGGING them to run the ball against them?

I hope you guys realize that the benefit they would get is in their ability to score points. unless they were also stealing transmissions then its moot.

There offensive skill position players have been awful in the past. Deoin Branch and Antowain Smith being featured? Give me a break.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

the Pats should be stripped of 1st round picks for the next decade

taping a walk-through is incredibly stupid and unneccesary

"hey look, he's limping! let's target him"

the more things come to light, the stupider the Pats look, it's crazy

According to the Rams, the walkthrough was about plays they were going to use inside the red zone (which is typical for walkthroughs). So yeah, there's an advantage if you know that.




YAKUZA

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

According to the Rams, the walkthrough was about plays they were going to use inside the red zone (which is typical for walkthroughs). So yeah, there's an advantage if you know that.




YAKUZA

As a general rule, other teams practices are off limits to opposing teams. The fact they are defending them violating that is laughable. If you understand that watching another teams practice will give you an edge then youre stupid.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

According to the Rams, the walkthrough was about plays they were going to use inside the red zone (which is typical for walkthroughs). So yeah, there's an advantage if you know that.




YAKUZA

ah, well I didn't, thanks for bringing that to light though

 

[Boysboy]

I hope you guys realize that the benefit they would get is in their ability to score points. unless they were also stealing transmissions then its moot.

There offensive skill position players have been awful in the past. Deoin Branch and Antowain Smith being featured? Give me a break.

*shrugs* those Rams, Panthers, and yes, Eagles teams didn't have a whole lot of talent in their key skilled positions either.

The only reason why the Rams' D was competitive was b/c Lovie Smith was coaching them. Otherwise, they were a VERY undersized unit. Same with the Panthers-they had an incredible front 4, but only above-average LBs(other than Dan Morgan) and a very suspect secondary-ultimately, they gave up chunks of yardage in the middle of the field. And Steve Smith was really their only weapon on O. Ditto the Eagles-they happened to have some nice, padded stats due to having doomat division opponents, only to get exposed when us, the Giants, and Skins got significantly better.

BTW-what in the world happened to Kurt Warner? He comes to the Giants, and ultimately stinks it up after getting off to a fast start. He then goes to the Cards, and is only average(at best). So I guess opponents have been cheating on these teams too?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

ah, well I didn't, thanks for bringing that to light though

its them running through plays they gameplanned for. WTH do you think a walkthrough is? its a minipractice to fine tune before the game and you dont think thats going to help them?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

As a general rule, other teams practices are off limits to opposing teams. The fact they are defending them violating that is laughable. If you understand that watching another teams practice will give you an edge then youre stupid.

I wasn't defending them

I just didn't know that practicing end-zone drills was part of the walk-through, I thought all it was was them stretching and walking the field

 

[Bob Sacamano]

its them running through plays they gameplanned for. WTH do you think a walkthrough is? its a minipractice to fine tune before the game and you dont think thats going to help them?

calm down

I thought a walk-through was just a walk-through, I didn't know that they considered running plays as part of their walk-through, good Lord

I don't why you got the idea that I was defending the Pats

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

*shrugs* those Rams, Panthers, and yes, Eagles teams didn't have a whole lot of talent in their key skilled positions either.

The only reason why the Rams' D was competitive was b/c Lovie Smith was coaching them. Otherwise, they were a VERY undersized unit. Same with the Panthers-they had an incredible front 4, but only above-average LBs(other than Dan Morgan) and a very suspect secondary-ultimately, they gave up chunks of yardage in the middle of the field. And Steve Smith was really their only weapon on O. Ditto the Eagles-they happened to have some nice, padded stats due to having doomat division opponents, only to get exposed when us, the Giants, and Skins got significantly better.

BTW-what in the world happened to Kurt Warner? He comes to the Giants, and ultimately stinks it up after getting off to a fast start. He then goes to the Cards, and is only average(at best). So I guess opponents have been cheating on these teams too?

That Rams team had the best skill players perhaps ever assembled. The Panthers had Steve Smith Mushinn Muhammed and Stephen Jackson in their primes.

The Eagels had TO and Westbrook.

The Pats had Branch Smith and Brown. All of who are JAGs.

You just lost any credibility.

Warner hurt his hand and his accuracy suffered. He put a QB rating of 90 this last year which wsa top 10 after letting it heal.

 

[J-DOG]

The Pats were a 12th man in the huddle penalty away from going to the Super Bowl last year-otherwise, they would have annihilated the Bears.

They were actually in control of that AFCCG last year-had a commanding 21-3 lead late in the first half before the Colts started chipping away-during this time, their LBs were cramping up(Colvin missed significant portions of the game). Even WITHOUT those 3 weapons, Brady was having a very good game nonetheless-and who knows what the outcome would have been if Rache "Bug Eyes" Caldwell hadn't dropped that TD pass.

I said the same circumstances...meaning getting caught cheating.
Who is to say what kind of competitive advantage the Pats got before this season?
Now in this season they are loaded with all this offensive firepower.
Yeah they are winning...but when you have Moss, Welker and Stallworth with Brady throwing... you should win.
Prior years I am not convinced that they were not using thier cheating to a great degree to win.
They were warned several times to stop videotaping but did it anyway. To what degree?
We will never know thanks to Goodell.
I am wondering if Goodell thought that seeing the Pats exposed as cheaters would be the equivalent of the NBA refs fixing games as a public media nightmare and just swept in under the rug by destroying the tapes.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I hope you guys realize that the benefit they would get is in their ability to score points. unless they were also stealing transmissions then its moot.

There offensive skill position players have been awful in the past. Deoin Branch and Antowain Smith being featured? Give me a break.

I'm sure they also taped their offensive signals too, to figure out how to stop them from scoring points as well

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm sure they also taped their offensive signals too, to figure out how to stop them from scoring points as well

Offensive signals are radioed in.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Offensive signals are radioed in.

oh, cool

now where's my apology?

 

[Boysboy]

That Rams team had the best skill players perhaps ever assembled. The Panthers had Steve Smith Mushinn Muhammed and Stephen Jackson in their primes.

The Eagels had TO and Westbrook.

The Pats had Branch Smith and Brown. All of who are JAGs.

You just lost any credibility.

Warner hurt his hand and his accuracy suffered. He put a QB rating of 90 this last year which wsa top 10 after letting it heal.

Actually-I was talking about their DEFENSES, if you read it correctly.

Again-the Rams' D, as competitive Lovie Smith made it, was VERY undersized. Why teams couldn't exploit it that year was mystifying, but they were getting mauled the year after.

The Panthers had an incredible front 4, but their back 7 was TERRIBLE in pass coverage, which is why you could exploit them in the middle of the field.

Ditto the Eagles' D-they were very good, but overrated nonetheless. Always thought Lito and Sheldon were good, albeit overrated corners, and after SS Michael Lewis made the Pro Bowl that year, he himself got exposed(and eventually got ridden out of town) a couple of years after. And their LBs have been pretty vulnerable in pass coverage to boot.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

oh, cool

now where's my apology?

youre sorry.

 

[Bizwah]

You know...I haven't really weighed in on this subject too much.

But if everyone was doing it.....then why have we only heard about the Patriots doing it?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Actually-I was talking about their DEFENSES, if you read it correctly.

Again-the Rams' D, as competitive Lovie Smith made it, was VERY undersized. Why teams couldn't exploit it that year was mystifying, but they were getting mauled the year after.

The Panthers had an incredible front 4, but their back 7 was TERRIBLE in pass coverage, which is why you could exploit them in the middle of the field.

Ditto the Eagles' D-they were very good, but overrated nonetheless. Always thought Lito and Sheldon were good, albeit overrated corners, and after SS Michael Lewis made the Pro Bowl that year, he himself got exposed(and eventually got ridden out of town) a couple of years after. And their LBs have been pretty vulnerable in pass coverage to boot.

Dre Bly, Grant Wistrom, London Fletcher, Leonard Little all say hello

As do Peppers Jenkins Morgan, Rucker, Minter, Navies Witherspoon and Deon Grant.

Might as well pipe in with Trotter, Kearse, Douglas, Hollis Thomis, Darwin Walker, Simoneau, Brown, Shepherd, Lewis and Dawkins.

Skill positions are typically RB, WR and QB btw.

 

[DragonCowboy]

BTW-what in the world happened to Kurt Warner? He comes to the Giants, and ultimately stinks it up after getting off to a fast start.

Hmm?

Didn't Warner go 5-3 only to be replaced by Eli who went 1-7 (that one win against us)?