Former Patriots Video Assistant Speaks!...Pats taped Rams walkthrough before SB?

[Boysboy]

Once again, horrible logic. This has a damn thing to do with the accusations made. Who cares the back story of the teams they beat? The fact is they're being accused of cheating to beat em.

Again-I don't condone the Pats, however...

After those 3 games, the blueprint was SET to beat those teams. After the Rams lost that game, all teams did against them was play nickel/dime and play physical with their ***** receivers. Even CAMPO did that in our game with them the following season. After the Panthers lost that game, teams started attacking them in the middle of the field more. After the Eagles lost that game, McNabb's weaknesses of holding onto the ball too long all but set the bloo-print on how to defend him. And not to mention too Reid lucked out for years with his poor clock management skills that was his undoing in that game, and ended up biting his team in the arse the last 3 years.

Like I said-I agree the Pats should be punished more, but these 3 teams nonetheless had very, very glaring weaknesses that's been getting exposed on consistent basis since those games. Take it FWIW.

 

[The Panch]

hmmm, lets see.....



1. The Rams went 12-4 two years later.

2. The Panthers went 11-5 two years later and made it to the NFC Championship game.

3. The Eagles went 10-6 last year winning their division and advancing to the Divisional Round.




I have a hard time understanding how your observations hold any weight in the least in the subject of the matter.

 

[peplaw06]

Noticed the lawyer (pep) and the wannabe (ogt) really got exercixed when I pointed out to them that sometimes just because something is legal does not mean its right (now maybe using slavery was like using a sledgehammer to drive a thumbtack, those two are rather oblivious sometimes).

I don't even know what that has to do with the conversation, or where you formed that figment in your imagination... we're not taking that position. It must be noisy between your ears with all those voices.

They seem to have a hard time thinking beyond pages in a legal text; as if there is nothing out there if its not a law.

Cheating is immoral and therefore wrong EVEN IF IT IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

Another lol... how is it cheating if it's legal? I'll wait for this one to sink in.






Got it yet...? No? Reread it.








Whadya think? I bet your head is about to explode huh? A shouldn't be surprised that a jarhead such as yourself can't wrap your miniscule brain around this.

IT also CHEAPENS the victories of those teams doing it.

Wow... we agree. You must have stolen that from one of my other posts.

 

[J-DOG]

Again-I don't condone the Pats, however...

After those 3 games, the blueprint was SET to beat those teams. After the Rams lost that game, all teams did against them was play nickel/dime and play physical with their ***** receivers. Even CAMPO did that in our game with them the following season. After the Panthers lost that game, teams started attacking them in the middle of the field more. After the Eagles lost that game, McNabb's weaknesses of holding onto the ball too long all but set the bloo-print on how to defend him. And not to mention too Reid lucked out for years with his poor clock management skills that was his undoing in that game, and ended up biting his team in the arse the last 3 years.

Like I said-I agree the Pats should be punished more, but these 3 teams nonetheless had very, very glaring weaknesses that's been getting exposed on consistent basis since those games. Take it FWIW.

I would hope you could win the game after you taped the teams walk-through practice.
Imagine how good your defense would be when you have tape of the opposing teams redzone plays.

 

[Nors]

I'm sure he is a member.

Not a member on any Pats boards - thats for the Cap dudes.

Back to why we are one and done and whining about why Giants suck and Pats cheat and are lucky 18-0 NFL/ESPN/MAFIA/Wall Street/Officials fixing all games bastids.

We need to do some introspection - JMO

 

[Boysboy]

hmmm, lets see.....



1. The Rams went 12-4 two years later.

2. The Panthers went 11-5 two years later and made it to the NFC Championship game.

3. The Eagles went 10-6 last year winning their division and advancing to the Divisional Round.




I have a hard time understanding how your observations hold any weight in the least in the subject of the matter.

1. They went 1 and one that same year in the playoffs.

2. That was '05, and they've subsequently stunk it up in '06 and '07-and yes, even in their 11-5 year, they were consistently attacked in the middle of the field as well.

3. That was b/c JEFF GARCIA came in and saved their season. Otherwise, they wouldn't have even made the playoffs.

 

[The Panch]

1. They went 1 and one that same year in the playoffs.

2. That was '05, and they've subsequently stunk it up in '06 and '07-and yes, even in their 11-5 year, they were consistently attacked in the middle of the field as well.

3. That was b/c JEFF GARCIA came in and saved their season. Otherwise, they wouldn't have even made the playoffs.

Guess what? I couldn't care less.

 

[peplaw06]

Again-I don't condone the Pats, however...

After those 3 games, the blueprint was SET to beat those teams. After the Rams lost that game, all teams did against them was play nickel/dime and play physical with their ***** receivers. Even CAMPO did that in our game with them the following season. After the Panthers lost that game, teams started attacking them in the middle of the field more. After the Eagles lost that game, McNabb's weaknesses of holding onto the ball too long all but set the bloo-print on how to defend him. And not to mention too Reid lucked out for years with his poor clock management skills that was his undoing in that game, and ended up biting his team in the arse the last 3 years.

Like I said-I agree the Pats should be punished more, but these 3 teams nonetheless had very, very glaring weaknesses that's been getting exposed on consistent basis since those games. Take it FWIW.

To correlate those losses to the demise of those teams is bizarre to say the least.

Warner is no longer in STL, Marshall Faulk retired, and the rest is history.

McNabb has been plagued by injuries, TO came to Dallas, and the defense got old in Philly.

Carolina lost a lot of guys on defense. Jake Delhomme had a career year that year. Moose Muhammad is gone.

There are a lot more obvious reasons why these teams slid backwards.

 

[Nors]

Maybe Pats have bugged every team in the NFL and know every play they are going to call, before its called and send it telepathy to team leaders on the fly! LOL

Or maybe they flat out are good. Shula said he knew exactly what our 90's Cowboys were going to do but he could not stop it. No one can stop Pats in 2008.

19-0 is 19-0

 

[Boysboy]

Maybe Pats have bugged every team in the NFL and know every play they are going to call, before its called and send it telepathy to team leaders on the fly! LOL

Or maybe they flat out are good. Shula said he knew exactly what our 90's Cowboys were going to do but he could not stop it. No one can stop Pats in 2008.

19-0 is 19-0

When the Giants would visit Candlestick in the 80's, Parcells said how their audio communication were blown out for a good bit to start the game...the Niners, OTOH, running the WCO had their first 15 plays scripted.

Again-not condoning cheating, but to say that [such and such] team's coaching staff is honest and pure is a bunch of hogwash-obviously pretty much everyone will do anything to gain a competitive edge.

 

[peplaw06]

Maybe Pats have bugged every team in the NFL and know every play they are going to call, before its called!

You really need to work on your sarcasm. Srsly, this is awful.

Or maybe they flat out are good. JShula said he knew exactly what our 90's Cowboys were going to do but he could not stop it. No one can stop Pats in 2008.

This quote -- even if it were attributed properly -- is completely opposite of the point you're trying oh so hard to make.

The Pats opponents aren't alleged to have known what the Pats were doing, it's the other way around.

Epic

 

[J-DOG]

Maybe Pats have bugged every team in the NFL and know every play they are going to call, before its called and send it telepathy to team leaders on the fly! LOL

Or maybe they flat out are good. Shula said he knew exactly what our 90's Cowboys were going to do but he could not stop it. No one can stop Pats in 2008.

19-0 is 19-0

Would have been interesting to see the Pats without Stallworth,Welker and Moss do that prior to this year.
But they didn't.
The Pats offense is special, no doubt.
But you put the same circumstances against prior Pat teams without Moss,Welker and Stallworth??? You don't see them dominate.

 

[Alexander]

Once again, horrible logic. This has a damn thing to do with the accusations made. Who cares the back story of the teams they beat? The fact is they're being accused of cheating to beat em.

The back story has quite a bit to do with it.

Because it isn't like they beat the cream of the crop. They didn't go out and squeak out a win against juggernauts because of their ultra evil cheating techniques.

So what basically is being said is that they had to cheat to beat teams who honestly haven't got close to getting back since?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Not a member on any Pats boards - thats for the Cap dudes.

Back to why we are one and done and whining about why Giants suck and Pats cheat and are lucky 18-0 NFL/ESPN/MAFIA/Wall Street/Officials fixing all games bastids.

We need to do some introspection - JMO

I dont care what you sya its obvious as the sun is bright that you pander to the Pats. You live in the hub and I dont know if its listening to WEEI or what but you defend them at every turn.

Bottomline here is that the commisioner acted in a manner as if he had something to hide and because the players union is impotent and the owners capitulate there is absolutely no oversight.

Spectre is within his rights as head of the judicial committee to provide said oversight and if he has to use the exemption as the club to force the issue so be it.

Outside of the hub its pretty much a universal accepted fact that in light of Gooddell's statement upon entering office that the punishments in his regime would be more harsh across the board and that league employees would be held to a higher standard than the players. Well he sure hammered the players arbitrarily which in retrospect jives with what he was saying.

What happened with the Pats is a much lesser punishment in comparison to any other metric. Belichek who was scapegoat received a fine which is much lesser thatn the monies that any of the players he hammered lost and as an organization the first round draft pick whereas the previous regimes policy for cheating the salary cap was a loss of two first round picks and a year suspension.

With the players the suspension is more whereas with the clubs themselves the suspension is less. To top it off the evidence is destroyed and it doesnt take a rocket scientist that this reeks of collusion.

Its not as if this is a witch hunt and its not as if there is no reasonable cause for suspicion. The Pats broke the rules and obviously we cannot fault them for being given a light slap but quite frankly it stinks.

And you can keep parroting that every other team does it but at the end of the day there is no evidence of this going on with any other club other than innuendo and if anything more than innuendo should arise then that club deserves whats coming to them even if it is the Cowboys.

That is not something that is an excuse and quite frankly its the type of thing yo hear from children attempting to get out of trupbe. "Well Frankie down the street does it all the time.'

 

[Boysboy]

Would have been interesting to see the Pats without Stallworth,Welker and Moss do that prior to this year.
But they didn't.
The Pats offense is special, no doubt.
But you put the same circumstances against prior Pat teams without Moss,Welker and Stallworth??? You don't see them dominate.

The Pats were a 12th man in the huddle penalty away from going to the Super Bowl last year-otherwise, they would have annihilated the Bears.

They were actually in control of that AFCCG last year-had a commanding 21-3 lead late in the first half before the Colts started chipping away-during this time, their LBs were cramping up(Colvin missed significant portions of the game). Even WITHOUT those 3 weapons, Brady was having a very good game nonetheless-and who knows what the outcome would have been if Rache "Bug Eyes" Caldwell hadn't dropped that TD pass.

 

[The Panch]

The back story has quite a bit to do with it.

Because it isn't like they beat the cream of the crop. They didn't go out and squeak out a win against juggernauts because of their ultra evil cheating techniques.

So what basically is being said is that they had to cheat to beat teams who honestly haven't got close to getting back since?

You do know the purpose of free agency and cap salary right?? To create parody. Like peplaw said, those teams rosters and even staff have changed as time has went on.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The back story has quite a bit to do with it.

Because it isn't like they beat the cream of the crop. They didn't go out and squeak out a win against juggernauts because of their ultra evil cheating techniques.

So what basically is being said is that they had to cheat to beat teams who honestly haven't got close to getting back since?

Actually what i think is being said is that they won at least three SB and Championship games by last minute field goals during the time period that the infamous library was going strong.

 

[Alexander]

Actually what i think is being said is that they won at least three SB and Championship games by last minute field goals during the time period that the infamous library was going strong.

So the filming made Andy Reid call a terrible game and McNabb choke on his own vomit?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

So the filming made Andy Reid call a terrible game and McNabb choke on his own vomit?

No, but it may have helped them score 24 points, which was enough to win the game.





YAKUZA

 

[Bob Sacamano]

the Pats should be stripped of 1st round picks for the next decade

taping a walk-through is incredibly stupid and unneccesary

"hey look, he's limping! let's target him"

the more things come to light, the stupider the Pats look, it's crazy