Fuzzy Thoughts at GB 2016

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mattjames2010

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I stand by what I said, and if you're offended by it, go cry in the corner. The guy made about 5 bad throws, the rest were either on purpose, or good to great throws. If he's going to do a statistical analyst of a QB, then do the ENTIRE THING. If you only talk about his negatives, you're being an ***hole on purpose.

2 fumbles, 1 INT. When did 3 mistakes from one player become something to shower someone with praise?

Not one person has denied Dak had some nice passes (Really, I was only impressed with his TD pass, but it was 7 points) - But 2 turnovers, and one bonehead fumble could have changed the outcome of this game if it wasn't for the Packers incompetent offense.

Just imagine Cobb catching that wide open TD pass or that long ball Jones nearly gave up but Rodgers overthrew? Different ball game. Dak put us in a lot of bad positions Sunday. That is simple fact.
 

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My advice for him next time is to lead with what he did good FIRST, which rarely did. If you're going to talk about all the bad things our QB did, why not give a good assertion on the good that he did. I would have loved to see that, but it never happened. I wonder why?

This is what Fuzzy wrote - pretty balanced to me.
A lot of good and bad.
We (at least I) want the real critical analysis, not some hyped up happy talk.
I also think the Bengals game was much better.
I may disagree with Fuzzy on one long throw that it seems he purposefully underthrew it to protect the receiver and ensure the reception (announcers may have mentioned it also)...

"I think the go route for a TD to end the first half and the euphoria of the win took the edge off of how inaccurate Dak was on the day. He was much better last week against the Bengals hitting intermediate routes in stride. This game he seemed low and/or behind on many of his throws. For the most part he was functionally inaccurate as receivers were able to slow and otherwise expand their catch radius to complete the pass. To his credit when he did miss he didn't miss high which is what most leads to interceptions.

OTOH, his deep passes to the outside were accurate. More on that later but inconsistent accuracy speaks to inconsistent mechanics which can be remedied in the long term. Outside of accuracy on intermediate throws he held onto the ball longer than I might want but I will take that anyday over throwing the ball into coverage. The pick was just another ball thrown behind his receiver and not a poor decision. His decisionmaking continues to be a plus."
 

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2 fumbles, 1 INT. When did 3 mistakes from one player become something to shower someone with praise?

Not one person has denied Dak had some nice passes (Really, I was only impressed with his TD pass, but it was 7 points) - But 2 turnovers, and one bonehead fumble could have changed the outcome of this game if it wasn't for the Packers incompetent offense.

Just imagine Cobb catching that wide open TD pass or that long ball Jones nearly gave up but Rodgers overthrew? Different ball game. Dak put us in a lot of bad positions Sunday. That is simple fact.
And in comes Romo's most beloved fan. Hi Romo. Anyways, I was impressed with how he took the ball right down the field on the first drive, scored TD. End of second quarter, he took the ball right down the field with 3 clutch passes, scored. I liked the way, after the interception, he took the ball right down the field, scored. I liked the way he then took the ball right down the field, put the game away. I guess you hated that stuff. Poor you.
 

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This is what Fuzzy wrote - pretty balanced to me.
A lot of good and bad.
We (at least I) want the real critical analysis, not some hyped up happy talk.
I also think the Bengals game was much better.
I may disagree with Fuzzy on one long throw that it seems he purposefully underthrew it to protect the receiver and ensure the reception (announcers may have mentioned it also)...

"I think the go route for a TD to end the first half and the euphoria of the win took the edge off of how inaccurate Dak was on the day. He was much better last week against the Bengals hitting intermediate routes in stride. This game he seemed low and/or behind on many of his throws. For the most part he was functionally inaccurate as receivers were able to slow and otherwise expand their catch radius to complete the pass. To his credit when he did miss he didn't miss high which is what most leads to interceptions.

OTOH, his deep passes to the outside were accurate. More on that later but inconsistent accuracy speaks to inconsistent mechanics which can be remedied in the long term. Outside of accuracy on intermediate throws he held onto the ball longer than I might want but I will take that anyday over throwing the ball into coverage. The pick was just another ball thrown behind his receiver and not a poor decision. His decisionmaking continues to be a plus."
That's your opinion, my opinion is that it was a bad review of Dak Prescott. That's my right.
 

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And in comes Romo's most beloved fan. Hi Romo. Anyways, I was impressed with how he took the ball right down the field on the first drive, scored TD. End of second quarter, he took the ball right down the field with 3 clutch passes, scored. I liked the way, after the interception, he took the ball right down the field, scored. I liked the way he then took the ball right down the field, put the game away. I guess you hated that stuff. Poor you.

Yes, leaning on a running game didn't help at all...

And I already stated his TD before the half was nice. No one is denying this. Again, to you, he had 5 bad passes. Okay so 5 bad passes, one being a turnover, and 2 fumbles. All of this with a great run game, great slot receiver, great TE, defense getting turnovers and putting him in a good position on the field and Rodgers throwing like Matt Cassel.

...yet, I'm supposed to consider Dak's performance impressive? I think he had good moments, but again, he's a bus driver who needs to do one thing: Don't turn the ball over. He failed.
 

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:lmao:

You couldn't possibly look more idiotic if you tried. Bye now, indeed.
The one who insults is the one who's not man enough to stand up and debate articulately. When you're ready to talk Cowboys, give me a hollar.
 

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The one who insults is the one who's not man enough to stand up and debate articulately. When you're ready to talk Cowboys, give me a hollar.
I already have. You ended up looking dumb. It's an exercise in futility. Stick to game threads. It's literally the only thing that you actually contribute to the board. The rest is talking is circles and making **** up. Worthless.
 

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Yes, leaning on a running game didn't help at all...

And I already stated his TD before the half was nice. No one is denying this. Again, to you, he had 5 bad passes. Okay so 5 bad passes, one being a turnover, and 2 fumbles. All of this with a great run game, great slot receiver, great TE, defense getting turnovers and putting him in a good position on the field and Rodgers throwing like Matt Cassel.

...yet, I'm supposed to consider Dak's performance impressive? I think he had good moments, but again, he's a bus driver who needs to do one thing: Don't turn the ball over. He failed.
He failed? You have ZERO credibility, I'm dumber debating with you. The guy scored three times, one two and three. That's 3 times he scored. He was responsible for 5 scores. That's 1 2 3 4 5 scores. He assisted in putting up 30 points against a good confusing defense with, in Lambeau, and he's a little old rookie out of Mississippi. Meanwhile, Romo won ONCE, in Green Bay. That's once in 10 years.
 

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He failed? You have ZERO credibility, I'm dumber debating with you. The guy scored three times, one two and three. That's 3 times he scored. He was responsible for 5 scores. That's 1 2 3 4 5 scores. He assisted in putting up 30 points against a good confusing defense with, in Lambeau, and he's a little old rookie out of Mississippi. Meanwhile, Romo won ONCE, in Green Bay. That's once in 10 years.

He had one 20 yard TD pass. The other two were to Beasley, a side pass, and one with Beasley wide open in the side of the end zone. Again, bus driver throws. his one to Butler was the only impressive throw.

What the hell does Romo winning in Green Bay once have to do with anything? Different teams, different years. It's a stupid rah-rah counter-argument. It's Shango-like, we have discussed this already.

Dak had the benefit of 3 turnovers against GB and an RB running for over 150 yards. Also, being able to order a pizza from the pocket is nice as well. He's a freakin' bus driver right now, just accept it.
 

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I already have. You ended up looking dumb. It's an exercise in futility. Stick to game threads. It's literally the only thing that you actually contribute to the board. The rest is talking is circles and making **** up. Worthless.
Let's see what I made up since you have zero contributions to the board except looking for likes. Dak came in to Lambeau field as a rookie with no Dez Bryant. He went in on national TV, you were able to watch right? So he starts the game out marching right on down the field and putting the ball into the end zone. Did you like that?

From there, he had problems. The same problems all QBs have during the year. You tell me one QB that doesn't go through the things he went through during the 1st half? Please, I beg you if you can comprehend.
End of half, he swiftly takes the ball, marches right down the field with clutch throw after clutch throw right into the end zone. Did you not like that?
3rd QTr, he thought Witten was going to do one thing, Witten did another, he threw the ball, it was bad. Tell me one QB that doesn't have that type of throw during the year? I beg of you, please. I'm sure you're take out your little crayon notes and look for something but it doesn't exist.

He then proceeded to take the ball right down the field, right into the end zone. Did you not like that? When he got the ball back, he then took the ball right down the field for a field goal to ice the game.

Now you tell me what QBs in the world through out history has played a flawless game? I'm sure there were a few. If you disagreed with anything I've just written, then you are not a Cowboys fan.
 

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You clearly do not understand what I meant when I said he was functionally inaccurate. Receivers were completing catches by having to come back for them and pull them off their shoe tops. He straight up missed Witten who has a huge catch radius 4 times by my count including the pic.

You seem to mistake criticism with condemnation.

Simply not true. One of Witten's primary drawbacks is that he doesn't have a big catch radius (i.e. he rarely leaps, dives, et cetera).
 

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He had one 20 yard TD pass. The other two were to Beasley, a side pass, and one with Beasley wide open in the side of the end zone. Again, bus driver throws. his one to Butler was the only impressive throw.

What the hell does Romo winning in Green Bay once have to do with anything? Different teams, different years. It's a stupid rah-rah counter-argument. It's Shango-like, we have discussed this already.

Dak had the benefit of 3 turnovers against GB and an RB running for over 150 yards. Also, being able to order a pizza from the pocket is nice as well. He's a freakin' bus driver right now, just accept it.
It's hard arguing with a wall. You didn't like how he went in to Lambeau and whipped Aaron Rodgers? Aaron freaking Rodgers was whipped by a 4th round rookie from Mississippi State. You don't like dealing in the factual world do you? In the factual world, Dak went in and had a 117 QBR with 3 TDs and 1 INT. How he got there is not as relevant as him actually getting there. NO one cares how New York won the Super Bowl, it's just a win. When you win, and somebody comes in and tries to discredit the win, they are known as trolls. You my friend, are a troll.
 

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Clove seems desperate for attention. The backhanded insults and calling others trolls is probably the best part.

If people want to discuss something other than the QBs I am down but the QB discussion is off the rails and I am done with it.
 

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On offense the Cowboys faced a Packers defense that was stout in the front 7 and S with corners decimated by injury
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They asked him to play slot coverage and was not a liability though. The secondary coaching sees success yet again.

Good read as usual Fuzzy.

Thx a bunch !
 
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