FWST Blog: Secondary Re-Shuffling... Scandrick to safety?

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lqmac1;2671898 said:
i'd rather have scandrick playing corner and move jenkins to saftey.

Jenkins is a better press/bump and run corner then Scandrick. Scandrick played off a lot at Boise, and he is comfortable there, I think that may be part of the reason. Both are talented DB's.

I know the CB's were claimering to play more press last year and both Jenkins and Newman can do that. IF keeping Scandrick on the field requires a move to FS...I love it.
 

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CPonder14;2671917 said:
Actually Scandrick is a good FS because He is a great zone corner. Loves to come up and hit people, and is a quick decision maker. If he can locate the ball in the air on deep bombs he will be a real good FS IMO.

Anyways Scandrick is a gamer if this puts him on the field all game then I'm all for it.

I disagree and I think Scandrick proved he's better playing man to man or just playing opposite Newman.
 

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LOL...

I guess it fits in with what's going in Valley Ranch lately.

I'm looking forward to the discussions of motioning Romo out wide in certain packages!
 

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CPonder14;2671917 said:
Actually Scandrick is a good FS because He is a great zone corner. Loves to come up and hit people, and is a quick decision maker. If he can locate the ball in the air on deep bombs he will be a real good FS IMO.

Anyways Scandrick is a gamer if this puts him on the field all game then I'm all for it.

Bingo!
 

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Portland Fanatic;2671921 said:
Jenkins is a better press/bump and run corner then Scandrick. Scandrick played off a lot at Boise, and he is comfortable there, I think that may be part of the reason. Both are talented DB's.

I know the CB's were claimering to play more press last year and both Jenkins and Newman can do that. IF keeping Scandrick on the field requires a move to FS...I love it.

Jenkins would need to put his hands on someone in order to play bump and run so scratch that. I thought of him being FS but that's the last line off defense so we all know he wouldn't even attempt the tackle honestly...we should just cut Jenkins or trade that bum.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2671887 said:
If his game meets his talent level.


I see no reason it wouldn't. It's not as if he played poorly last season. Scandrick just played better. However, their is no doubt that Jenkins is the more talented of the two physically. I think he'll be a fine CB for us.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2671883 said:
I don't know that this is really all that strange. Scandrick can play CB or FS. In fact, when we drafted him, I thought he might end up at FS. Jenkins has more natural talent then Scandrick does so once his game meets his talent level, he's probably going to be the other starting CB anyway. Ball is probably ready to step up and take a more active role as well. We may draft another guy at CB or Safety or sign somebody. I wouldn't worry too much about any of it. I don't get the impression that Woody was saying this as if it was a done deal.


I don't think it's all that strange either.

The big thing would be Scandrick's tackling ability.

When Woody was younger, there was less of a need for the 3rd corner because Woodson would cover the slot-- just like Scandrick is capable of doing now.

Am I saying that Scandrick can tackle well enough to be a FS? No.

But what I am saying is that maybe the Cowboys are trying to get their 4 best DB's on the field at the same time and also give the defense enough flexibility to not have to swap in personnel left & right when teams go to a 3 WR set.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2671932 said:
Jenkins would need to put his hands on someone in order to play bump and run so scratch that. I thought of him being FS but that's the last line off defense so we all know he wouldn't even attempt the tackle honestly...we should just cut Jenkins or trade that bum.

LOL...I know that play will haunt many around here. Jenkins can play, but that was inexcusable for sure!
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2671939 said:
I see no reason it wouldn't. It's not as if he played poorly last season. Scandrick just played better. However, their is no doubt that Jenkins is the more talented of the two physically. I think he'll be a fine CB for us.

What makes him more talented physically?
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2671939 said:
I see no reason it wouldn't. It's not as if he played poorly last season. Scandrick just played better. However, their is no doubt that Jenkins is the more talented of the two physically. I think he'll be a fine CB for us.

ABC I would not go as far as to say that Jenkins is more talented. Scandrick is a baller...I like both kids a lot, and finally feel like we hit homeruns drafting them both, but don't underestimate Scandrick.

I went to the SF game and Scandrick was directing traffic out there as well. I think they love that about him...he's a heady player and we need that at FS.
 

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numnuts23;2671831 said:
Huh...interesting to say the least.

Scandrick in the slot seems like the best choice to me. He's pretty small to be a FS??

Sad thing is that Mike Jenkins is bigger, but he can't play any Safety because he doesn't seem to like contact.

Scandrick isn't the biggest guy on the field, but he will stick his head in there.
 

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CPonder14;2671917 said:
Actually Scandrick is a good FS because He is a great zone corner. Loves to come up and hit people, and is a quick decision maker. If he can locate the ball in the air on deep bombs he will be a real good FS IMO.

Anyways Scandrick is a gamer if this puts him on the field all game then I'm all for it.


I agree with this post...
 

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The league has already changed and teams are trying to put cover DBs on the field rather than half LB and half S.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2671939 said:
I see no reason it wouldn't. It's not as if he played poorly last season. Scandrick just played better. However, their is no doubt that Jenkins is the more talented of the two physically. I think he'll be a fine CB for us.
Jenkins is more physically talented?

Mike Jenkins
40 Yrd Dash: 4.38
20 Yrd Dash: 2.53
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
Vertical Jump: 34
Broad Jump: 09'09"
3-Cone Drill: 7.21

Orlando Sandrick
40 Yrd Dash: 4.32
20 Yrd Dash: 2.49
10 Yrd Dash: 1.46
Vertical Jump: 33 1/2
Broad Jump: 10'05"
3-Cone Drill: 6.83

Scandrick had some of the best physical workouts in his entire draft class. Jenkins is really good athlete too, but he's not as physically gifted as Scandrick. And he's apparently not as quick a learner either since Scandrick outplayed him a good bit last year.
 

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theogt;2671988 said:
Jenkins is more physically talented?

Mike Jenkins
40 Yrd Dash: 4.38
20 Yrd Dash: 2.53
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
Vertical Jump: 34
Broad Jump: 09'09"
3-Cone Drill: 7.21

Orlando Sandrick
40 Yrd Dash: 4.32
20 Yrd Dash: 2.49
10 Yrd Dash: 1.46
Vertical Jump: 33 1/2
Broad Jump: 10'05"
3-Cone Drill: 6.83

Scandrick had some of the best physical workouts in his entire draft class. Jenkins is really good athlete too, but he's not as physically gifted as Scandrick. And he's apparently not as quick a learner either since Scandrick outplayed him a good bit last year.


Good thing we want to move him to Safety then, huh?
 

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MichaelWinicki;2671942 said:
I don't think it's all that strange either.

The big thing would be Scandrick's tackling ability.

When Woody was younger, there was less of a need for the 3rd corner because Woodson would cover the slot-- just like Scandrick is capable of doing now.

Am I saying that Scandrick can tackle well enough to be a FS? No.

But what I am saying is that maybe the Cowboys are trying to get their 4 best DB's on the field at the same time and also give the defense enough flexibility to not have to swap in personnel left & right when teams go to a 3 WR set.


He was a pretty good tackler at Boise St. as I recall. I think he can be OK. He has that toughness about him it takes to stick your nose into it. He's not a punishing tackler but he seems to be fairly solid in his ability to make a tackle. The only thing I would worry about is his size and if he could stand up at FS for an entire season. I don't know that he weighs more then 195 lbs. He was a pretty good Special Teams guy at Boise St. thou.
 

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theogt;2671988 said:
Jenkins is more physically talented?

Mike Jenkins
40 Yrd Dash: 4.38
20 Yrd Dash: 2.53
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
Vertical Jump: 34
Broad Jump: 09'09"
3-Cone Drill: 7.21

Orlando Sandrick
40 Yrd Dash: 4.32
20 Yrd Dash: 2.49
10 Yrd Dash: 1.46
Vertical Jump: 33 1/2
Broad Jump: 10'05"
3-Cone Drill: 6.83

Scandrick had some of the best physical workouts in his entire draft class. Jenkins is really good athlete too, but he's not as physically gifted as Scandrick. And he's apparently not as quick a learner either since Scandrick outplayed him a good bit last year.

I was wondering what makes him more physically talented....also he did 38 inches at his pro day but whatever clever I guess.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2671923 said:
I disagree and I think Scandrick proved he's better playing man to man or just playing opposite Newman.

Actually I agree with this. But we're obviously not going to put two true safeties and two CBs on the field even in base. This gets the three best pass defenders on the field at the same time on most every play.

Smooth move Wade.
 

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jobberone;2671999 said:
Actually I agree with this. But we're obviously not going to put two true safeties and two CBs on the field even in base. This gets the three best pass defenders on the field at the same time on most every play.

Smooth move Wade.

After Scandrick and Newman there's a big drop off.
 

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I love the move if true. I believe that we've needed a playmaker at FS and this kid makes plays. Forget about the walk off bomb over the head of a FS anymore, Scandrick may be a pro bowler his first year at FS.

We still have the draft, and we still have free agency.
 
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