FWST Blog: Secondary Re-Shuffling... Scandrick to safety?

[speedkilz88]

Hamlin isn't big enough to be a SS - several people have mentioned this point already. plus, he is not aggressive or good enough tackler in the run game - see the Ravens game....

I think moving Scandrick from CB is a mistake - he could really be special there IMO and CB's are normally much harder to find.

This makes no sense to me...

Hamlin is 6-2 206, thats plenty of size for SS and I've read some reports that claimed Hamlin was playing hurt in that game. I'm sick over those two plays but that doesn't all of a sudden make him a bad player. The game has changed and you need interchangeable type safeties who can cover. The run stopping SS is becoming a dinosaur.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Hamlin is 6-2 206, thats plenty of size for SS and I've read some reports that claimed Hamlin was playing hurt in that game. I'm sick over those two plays but that doesn't all of a sudden make him a bad player. The game has changed and you need interchangeable type safeties who can cover. The run stopping SS is becoming a dinosaur.

He's an okay player. Nothing special doesn't deserve the contract he has isn't better than RW. Won't have another season like 07 will go back to what he did in Seattle.

 

[speedkilz88]

I was wondering what makes him more physically talented....also he did 38 inches at his pro day but whatever clever I guess.

The scouts loved his feet and his long arms.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Secondary Re-Shuffling

Just talked to Terence Newman to get his general reaction to the events of the last 24 hours or so and he said he was "shocked" to learn that both Terrell Owens and Roy Williams were cut.

He had a lot more to say, but one thing he did add was that he expects to see second-year cornerback Orlando Scandrick playing free safety and moving Ken Hamlin to strong safety which means Mike Jenkins will start at the other corner.

It's not set in stone, but it sounds like those wheels are in motion.

- Mac Engel



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That doesn't sound like a good solution. Scandrick is CB material. Why would you waste that type of skill at the safety position?

DUMB.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Jenkins is more physically talented?

Mike Jenkins
40 Yrd Dash: 4.38
20 Yrd Dash: 2.53
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
Vertical Jump: 34
Broad Jump: 09'09"
3-Cone Drill: 7.21

Orlando Sandrick
40 Yrd Dash: 4.32
20 Yrd Dash: 2.49
10 Yrd Dash: 1.46
Vertical Jump: 33 1/2
Broad Jump: 10'05"
3-Cone Drill: 6.83

Scandrick had some of the best physical workouts in his entire draft class. Jenkins is really good athlete too, but he's not as physically gifted as Scandrick. And he's apparently not as quick a learner either since Scandrick outplayed him a good bit last year.

Coming out, Scandrick was the more polished player. I watched a great deal of Scandrick at Boise St. because we see their games a lot here in NM. I don't disagree with you on the combine numbers but it's pretty clear to me that Jenkins is physically suited to be the better CB. IMO, he is more fluid in his hips and he turns and runs better. JMO but I think it's valid.

However, if you would rather bemoan the fact that Scandrick might move to FS, that's fine with me.

Their is also a financial issue to be considered. That probably plays into any decision as well.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

The scouts loved his feet and his long arms.

but he had poor mechanics and such...whatever jenkins sucks.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Coming out, Scandrick was the more polished player. I watched a great deal of Scandrick at Boise St. because we see their games a lot here in NM. I don't disagree with you on the combine numbers but it's pretty clear to me that Jenkins is physically suited to be the better CB. IMO, he is more fluid in his hips and he turns and runs better. JMO but I think it's valid.

However, if you would rather bemoan the fact that Scandrick might move to FS, that's fine with me.

Their is also a financial issue to be considered. That probably plays into any decision as well.

He does turn and run really good. I think he could be a bull fighter the way he just Ole'd and allowed Ward to walk into the endzone was amazing.

 

[RainMan]

Is it really wise to take a good corner and move him to safety? Always seemed like the sort of thing you do as a last-ditch effort with a corner who has lost his wheels.

 

[DasTex]

Jenkins is more physically talented?


Orlando Sandrick
40 Yrd Dash: 4.32
20 Yrd Dash: 2.49
10 Yrd Dash: 1.46
Vertical Jump: 33 1/2
Broad Jump: 10'05"
3-Cone Drill: 6.83

Scandrick had some of the best physical workouts in his entire draft class. Jenkins is really good athlete too, but he's not as physically gifted as Scandrick. And he's apparently not as quick a learner either since Scandrick outplayed him a good bit last year.

Whats funny is, with those numbers - he would likely be a top 15 pick in this years draft!

 

[speedkilz88]

Is it really wise to take a good corner and move him to safety? Always seemed like the sort of thing you do as a last-ditch effort with a corner who has lost his wheels.

It comes down to, do you want him on the bench or on the field?

 

[JPM]

I'd rather have Scandrick start opposite of Newman than put in next to Hamlin.

 

[Portland Fanatic]

Whats funny is, with those numbers - he would likely be a top 15 pick in this years draft!

Had he stayed his final year he probably would have been.

 

[AbeBeta]

I thought Springs signed w/the Iggles?

patriots

 

[Doomsay]

Hamlin is 6-2 206, thats plenty of size for SS and I've read some reports that claimed Hamlin was playing hurt in that game. I'm sick over those two plays but that doesn't all of a sudden make him a bad player. The game has changed and you need interchangeable type safeties who can cover. The run stopping SS is becoming a dinosaur.

He was one of the best coverage FS in 2007 - 2nd behind Reed in terms of completions allowed, not to mention all of the important turnovers he generated. He was hurt after the Pittsburgh game last year, but there was clearly something really off with him in 2008. Hopefully he'll rally this year, I'd rather have him in coverage than @ SS, I think that it suits his game more.

 

[speedkilz88]

Mel Renfro

Renfro was drafted by the Cowboys in the second round of the 1964 NFL Draft. He was initially placed as a safety, but was switched to cornerback in his fifth season. The speedy Renfro (4.65 40-yd dash) became an exceptional threat to wide receivers. Mel led the NFL with 10 interceptions in 1969. Renfro was selected to the Pro Bowl in each of his first ten seasons in the League, including five All-Pro selections in 1964, 1965, 1969, 1971, and 1973.[1] Mel also was a significant threat on special teams, performing punt and kickoff return duties in addition to playing on defense, leading the league in punt and kickoff return yardage in 1964.

In his fourteen seasons, Renfro intercepted 52 passes, returning them for 626 yards and 3 touchdowns. He also returned 109 punts for 842 yards and 1 touchdown, 85 kickoffs for 2,246 yards and 2 touchdowns, along with recording 13 fumble recoveries, which he returned for 44 yards. In the 1970 NFC title game, Renfro had a key interception that led to the Cowboys' game-winning touchdown over the San Francisco 49ers that helped them get to Super Bowl V, where they lost to the Baltimore Colts. He would later play in Super Bowls VI, X and XII, retiring after the the final one, a Cowboys victory over the Denver Broncos.

Renfro was added to the Texas Stadium Ring of Honor in 1981, and was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1996.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

He was one of the best coverage FS in 2007 - 2nd behind Reed in terms of completions allowed, not to mention all of the important turnovers he generated. He was hurt after the Pittsburgh game last year, but there was clearly something really off with him in 2008. Hopefully he'll rally this year, I'd rather have him in coverage than @ SS, I think that it suits his game more.

Or he got paid and went back to playing like crap.

 

[Oh_Canada]

I'd much rather see them experiment with Alan Ball than a very talented young corner like Scandrick.

 

[JPM]

Mel Renfro

The speedy Renfro (4.65 in the 40) ! WOW have times changed.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

The speedy Renfro (4.56 in the 40) ! WOW have times changed.

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It comes down to, do you want him on the bench or on the field?

I also think that Jenkins is a #1 pick, making #1 money and Scandrick is a 5th round pick making 5th round money plays a role as well. If you play Scandrick at CB and sit Jenkins, you would have to pay Scandrick starters money when he resigns. Jenkins, you would have to pay as well or you would probably lose him to FA. The other thing is that Scandrick has played some safety before. I don't know that Jenkins has but whatever. It's the off season.