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So how close was Garrett on Rams job?

Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that at least two of the five people who interviewed the five finalists for the St. Louis Rams head coaching position were impressed most with Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier and Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, who wound up with the job.

And owner Chip Rosenbloom liked Frazier a little better, but was impressed with Spagnuolo, sources told the Post-Dispatch.

So what was the deal with Cowboys offensive coordinator Jason Garrett going to St. Louis on Friday?

Here's what Thomas reported:

"During his finalist interview Wednesday in Los Angeles, Garrett insisted on visiting St. Louis with his wife to get a look at the city and the facility at Rams Park. So how could the Rams say no to Garrett's visit request — particularly because at that time they had yet to interview Spagnuolo? So Garrett got his "tour" of St. Louis and by late Saturday morning he was headed back to Dallas."

Read the Post-Dispatch account here.




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DID GARRETT PRICE HIMSELF OUT OF RAMS’ JOB?

Posted by Mike Florio on January 17, 2009, 11:37 p.m.

Beginning on Friday afternoon and continuing into Saturday, it appeared that Cowboys offensive coordinator Jason Garrett would be the next head coach of the Rams.

By Saturday afternoon, Garrett was on a plane back to Texas.

And Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo was getting the job.

So what happened? What derailed Garrett’s hiring, which seemed imminent when he returned to St. Louis only two days after his “finalist interview” on Wednesday?

As the rumor mill goes, it was all about money.

The Rams, as we hear it, weren’t going to spend a penny above $11.5 million over four years.

That’s an average of $2.875 million per year. And, for Garrett, who reportedly received a contract in the ballpark of $3 million last year when he decided to stay in Dallas, the step up in title wouldn’t have represented much if any of a step up in salary.

As we hear it, Garrett’s agent, David Dunn, thought that the Rams would cave, given that Dunn also represents Rams G.M. Billy Devaney .

If so, Dunn thought wrong.

John Shaw, who has stepped aside from his president role but who handled the negotiations for the next head coach, refused to blink — and in the end Spagnuolo and agent Bob LaMonte were willing to take the $11.6 million deal.
 

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Makes you wonder if he was using that as some sort of leverage with Jerry.
 

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LOL @ (1) that the putz would "insist" on getting a tour of St. Louis even though he apparently wasn't at the top of the coaching list, and (2) the idea that Garrett would turn a job down for $400k.
 

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theogt;2584731 said:
LOL @ (1) that the putz would "insist" on getting a tour of St. Louis even though he apparently wasn't at the top of the coaching list, and (2) the idea that Garrett would turn a job down for $400k.
I think we found somebody with a bigger ego than Terrell Owens!
 

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If it's written by Pro Football Talk it isn't true.

I tend to think Steve Spagnuolo was ahead of Garrett because, well, he had a very good defense this past year. He did a great job.

Garrett, on the other hand, did a poor job.
 

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I really DOUBT that Garrett would have made a stink about the $400 thousand vs being a head coach. Now he MIGHT have decided that he did not really want to be the head coach there and used the money as an excuse-or he thought he could get the extra money if he waited. If so that was a stupid thing to do.
Once again though the real question is: how badly did he want to be the Head Coach of the Rams?
 

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WoodysGirl;2584727 said:
As we hear it, Garrett’s agent, David Dunn, thought that the Rams would cave, given that Dunn also represents Rams G.M.
If so, Dunn thought wrong.

Once again, Team-Garrett gets OUTCOACHED! :lmao2:
 

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Wow!!!

First he said they wouldn't go a PENNY above 11.5 mil, then he quotes that they paid 11. 6 mil.

That's a lot of pennies....

Look, Garrett was unpopular with their fan base and they went defense over offense. If money was part of the equation it wasn't a big part.

If JG did ask to view the facilities he has good sense.
Why would anyone take a job without ever seeing where they'd be working???

Not only that but by flying out you give mediots the perception you are more highly desired than other reports indicate.

Nothing in that report adds up.
1. JG could have been turned down and simply told he wasn't a high option, instead of being brought in to visit.
2. The reporter can't add.
3. How many GMs interview you in a different city than the one the team represents or where you live? I think I'd want Devaney as GM here less than even Jerry.
 

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I dont buy it that Spags was at the top of their list. You dont have a job candidate fly out to your city, tour the stadium, and visit with the execs if the decision was already made to hire somebody else.

That just doesnt happen in the real world folks. Something happened that caused either the Rams or Garett to get cold feet and back out of the deal.

Either the Rams noticed all the fans getting pissed (supposedly the Rams HQ got a bunch of phone calls from pissed season ticket holders) or Garrett was trying to play them for either more money, more player personnel control, or for leverage with Jerry.

Something went down.
 

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Let's face it .... he's all ours now. Good or bad, we've got him. Let's just hope for the best.
 

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Steve Spagnola and Jason Garret were seen in the parking lot duking it out for the St.Luis HC job.

Spags was winning because he knew what punch Garret was going to throw before he threw it.;)
 

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The venom for Jason Garrett is amazing.

On one hand, you have the Garrett homers who insist he'll be a great coach, though he's yet to prove anything. On the other hand, you have moron TO fanatics who deride anything and everything to do with Garrett.

They so eagerly latch on to a report that negatively portrays Garrett, but dismiss as lies the mostly-confirmed lockerroom stories concerning TO.

I wonder if some of these guys will even call themselves Cowboys fans in a month or in a year when TO is gone.
 

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Double Trouble;2584838 said:
The venom for Jason Garrett is amazing.

On one hand, you have the Garrett homers who insist he'll be a great coach, though he's yet to prove anything.
Perhaps you forgot the offense of 2007.
 
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theogt;2584731 said:
LOL @ (1) that the putz would "insist" on getting a tour of St. Louis even though he apparently wasn't at the top of the coaching list, and (2) the idea that Garrett would turn a job down for $400k.

NOT A GOOD SIGN IF TRUE...that only reflects on the kind of thinking he demonstrates as a coach...

(forget the facts...i know my approach will work...just watch...why run the football, we can pass 85% of the time and win...why make adjustments it will work...JESUS!!!)...ugh, another year of this...
 

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Daudr;2584728 said:
Makes you wonder if he was using that as some sort of leverage with Jerry.

Like I've been saying...

JG is the one who insisted on flying back out there, and the team "let" him do so. But here in Dallas there were media reports that the job was his.

The math's not that hard.
 

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Double Trouble;2584838 said:
The venom for Jason Garrett is amazing.

On one hand, you have the Garrett homers who insist he'll be a great coach, though he's yet to prove anything. On the other hand, you have moron TO fanatics who deride anything and everything to do with Garrett.

They so eagerly latch on to a report that negatively portrays Garrett, but dismiss as lies the mostly-confirmed lockerroom stories concerning TO.

I wonder if some of these guys will even call themselves Cowboys fans in a month or in a year when TO is gone.

Funny how that works isn't it?
 

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theogt;2584731 said:
LOL @ (1) that the putz would "insist" on getting a tour of St. Louis even though he apparently wasn't at the top of the coaching list, and (2) the idea that Garrett would turn a job down for $400k.
Either he blew a job that was almost his by negotiating poorly or he insisted on the tour for a job that was never almost his.

So they can't both be funny. They can't both be true and they're not particularly funny if not true.
 
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