FWST: Phillips takes high road with critics but points out he has won more than BP

[Doomsday101]

+1

Wade's comments show his complete lack of intellectual ability. Parcells took over a very bad team with Quincy Carter as the QB. Wade was handed a play-off caliber team with Romo as QB. For Wade to compare his record to Parcells is beyond the pale.

and that team had allot of holes in it. Yes we had some good playersas well as some players who still needed work and we had areas of the team that needed to be upgraded. So while Wade did not take over a 5-11 he took a on team that was still in need of allot.

 

[dbair1967]

Yes they were.

No but we got ball back and scored. Something we werent doing for some reason during our offense series.

Stealers defense?? We were stalling on offense. Credit who you want.

Shoulda, coulda... well you know that one....



Yeah you are right. MVP for winning the game - no reason for it. We were playing lights out anyway. The game should have been 52-7.... uh huh, ok.

I never said anything about him not deserving the MVP or somebody else should have won it. I said the game wasnt really as close as some made it out to seem, and that we were really never in danger of "losing" or only won because we "got lucky" as so many seem to think.

 

[dbair1967]

+1

Wade's comments show his complete lack of intellectual ability. Parcells took over a very bad team with Quincy Carter as the QB. Wade was handed a play-off caliber team with Romo as QB. For Wade to compare his record to Parcells is beyond the pale.

Well Parcells did coach here 4 yrs, Wade only has 3. And Parcells did take over a worse team, no question about it. But he got everything he wanted, exactly the way he wanted it for 4 years. At the end of his 4th yr, we still had not improved our win total from his first season and still hadnt won a playoff game.

I think too many of you are reading stuff in Wade's comments that simply wasnt there. He wasnt taking a shot at Parcells.

 

[Doomsday101]

Well Parcells did coach here 4 yrs, Wade only has 3. And Parcells did take over a worse team, no question about it. But he got everything he wanted, exactly the way he wanted it for 4 years. At the end of his 4th yr, we still had not improved our win total from his first season and still hadnt won a playoff game.

I think too many of you are reading stuff in Wade's comments that simply wasnt there. He wasnt taking a shot at Parcells.

I agree. I take nothing away from what BP did accomplish in his time in Dallas I also do not have an issue of the job Wade has done. We are still short of the goal but at least in my eyes we are moving in a good direction with some good mixture of youth and vets

 

[Kangaroo]

Cowboys coach Wade Phillips would be well within his rights to thumb his nose up at a few of his critics after leading the Cowboys to their first playoff win in 13 years and getting a two-year contract extension.

Phillips said that's just not him. However, it is not beyond Phillips take a little dig at the object of many of his critics' obsession (affection), his predecessor Bill Parcells.

Phillips said what frustrates him most is that people don't appreciate how hard it is to win games. They certainly don't appreciate how many games he has won in Dallas compared how things were before he got here.

Phillips has won 34 games and two division titles in three years as Cowboys coach. The Cowboys only won one division title from 1997 prior to his arrival in 2007.

"I take pride in that we won a lot of games," Phillips said. "People don't realize how hard it is to win games. They do if they look at the previous four years and the years before that. We won 34 games in three years. Bill (Parcells) won 34 in four years and previous one before that won 34 in six or eight. That's the only thing. I just don't think people realize how hard it is to win."

Clarence E. Hill Jr.


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Yea come back and talk to me Wade when you took a team that went 5-13 three years in a row and manage to get it into the playoffs with less talent then teams that missed the playoffs. Starting QB QC starting RB Hambrick need I say more.

So what is the point their Wade you took over a team that was ready to take the next step

yea Wade you are the greatest ever

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Parcells >>>> Phillips

 

[JBond]

Parcells >>>> Phillips

The real question is who would win a hot dog eating contest? Tough call.

 

[Doomsday101]

Parcells >>>> Phillips

OK. Does not change the fact Wade has done a pretty good job none the less. Still work to be done but this team is still peaking and hopefully with a couple of addition as well as young players improving Wade and this team can make a serious run at a championship next season.

 

[hawklegion]

OK. Does not change the fact Wade has done a pretty good job none the less. Still work to be done but this team is still peaking and hopefully with a couple of addition as well as young players improving Wade and this team can make a serious run at a championship next season.

I would say he has done a very good job on the defense, a very average job as head coach. I can and will hope he does better next season but don't put any faith in him to do so.

I think what I and some others are complaining about is Wade's apples to oranges comparison between his and Parcell's records. It is a poor comparison as everyone notes simply because the talent Parcell's got is dramatically less then what Wade inherited.

I would prefer Wade spend less time trying to convince everyone that he is a good head coach with specious arguments and more time trying to avoid getting blown out in losses to end 2 straight seasons.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I would say he has done a very good job on the defense, a very average job as head coach. I can and will hope he does better next season but don't put any faith in him to do so.

I think what I and some others are complaining about is Wade's apples to oranges comparison between his and Parcell's records. It is a poor comparison as everyone notes simply because the talent Parcell's got is dramatically less then what Wade inherited.

I would prefer Wade spend less time trying to convince everyone that he is a good head coach with specious arguments and more time trying to avoid getting blown out in losses to end 2 straight seasons.

2007 - 1st round bye then playoff game = loss
2008 - Win and you are in = BIG Loss
2009 - Win against a team you owned all year then playoff game vs GOOD team = BIG Loss


I guess its going to take a "looking back" in about 2-3 years to see that Wade as HC was a BIG FAIL and giving him another contract was even BIGGER FAIL.

As DC - average to good.

Not enough IMO.

 

[Doomsday101]

I would say he has done a very good job on the defense, a very average job as head coach. I can and will hope he does better next season but don't put any faith in him to do so.

I think what I and some others are complaining about is Wade's apples to oranges comparison between his and Parcell's records. It is a poor comparison as everyone notes simply because the talent Parcell's got is dramatically less then what Wade inherited.

I would prefer Wade spend less time trying to convince everyone that he is a good head coach with specious arguments and more time trying to avoid getting blown out in losses to end 2 straight seasons.

Wade did not say he was better he stated a fact. What he said was true no matter how you spin it, it is what is it he has won 34 games in 3 years please dispute the truth in that. He said it is hard to win, damn right it is hard to win in a league of partity. As the HC he has won the east 2 time and has helped get this team a post season victory they have not seen in 13 years those are the plain and simple facts.

BP did some good things in Dallas but not all was good he made his share of mistakes and after 4 years we had 0 success in playoffs I doubt even Parcells felt that was a success.

BP has been a great coach and yes he helped to get this team back on their feet but from 06 to today there have been many other changes that BP played 0 part in and if people can't figure that out then sorry it smells of an agenda from the same people who have moaned and whined about Wade from day 1

 

[Hoofbite]

The real question is who would win a hot dog eating contest? Tough call.

Parcells would take Wade in a lactating competition, hands down.

 

[hawklegion]

Parcells would take Wade in a lactating competition, hands down.

Wrong, Andy Reid would beat them both in either category.

 

[peplaw06]

I would say he has done a very good job on the defense, a very average job as head coach. I can and will hope he does better next season but don't put any faith in him to do so.

Average job as a head coach????

And here I thought one of the worst things Jerry ever said was back in the 90s that any one of 500 coaches could lead this team to a Super Bowl. This is just about the same thing.... apparently any average coach could lead this team to 34 wins over 3 seasons.

 

[hawklegion]

Average job as a head coach????

And here I thought one of the worst things Jerry ever said was back in the 90s that any one of 500 coaches could lead this team to a Super Bowl. This is just about the same thing.... apparently any average coach could lead this team to 34 wins over 3 seasons.

It worked for Switzer, it is now working for Wade.

 

[Doomsday101]

It worked for Switzer, it is now working for Wade.

Barry got a 2 time back to back SB champ. Wade got a 9-7 who lost 4 of their last 5 games to end the 06 season. Yeah that is the same thing.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Barry got a 2 time back to back SB champ. Wade got a 9-7 who lost 4 of their last 5 games to end the 06 season. Yeah that is the same thing.

well, Wade did inherit a team close to winning a playoff game, and he won a playoff game

 

[Doomsday101]

well, Wade did inherit a team close to winning a playoff game, and he won a playoff game

Yes he did what was not done before, Barry did what had been done twice before. Wade has helped to add more talent on this team with drafts picks and FA. What Barry got was a Super Bowl made team with a top ranked defense and one of the top QB, RB, WR in the game not just in the NFC but in the NFL

 

[hawklegion]

Barry got a 2 time back to back SB champ. Wade got a 9-7 who lost 4 of their last 5 games to end the 06 season. Yeah that is the same thing.

You are correct, is is the same thing. Barry took a great team, built by Jimmy, and won another SuperBowl. Wade took a Playoff caliber team, Built by Parcells, and accomplished 1 play-off win. If Wade has added to the team building a dynastic champion it would be showing up with something more then 2 complete beatings to end the last 2 season and an early exit with a 1st round bye.

Both Wade and Switzer are riding the team, keeping it level to what great coaches had built, but neither Wade or Switzer have moved much beyond. I guess one can say 1 play-off win, in 3 seasons with a play-off caliber team is improvement, but I see the ends of the last 3 years as disappointments.

13-3 = 1st round bye and beat
9-7 = losing 3 0f last 4 with blow-out to Philly
11-5 = 1 play-off win, and another blow-out.

I guess if just having above average to very good season records is all one wants, Wade is great. I would like more.

 

[dbair1967]

You are correct, is is the same thing. Barry took a great team, built by Jimmy, and won another SuperBowl. Wade took a Playoff caliber team, Built by Parcells, and accomplished 1 play-off win. If Wade has added to the team building a dynastic champion it would be showing up with something more then 2 complete beatings to end the last 2 season and an early exit with a 1st round bye.

Both Wade and Switzer are riding the team, keeping it level to what great coaches had built, but neither Wade or Switzer have moved much beyond. I guess one can say 1 play-off win, in 3 seasons with a play-off caliber team is improvement, but I see the ends of the last 3 years as disappointments.

13-3 = 1st round bye and beat
9-7 = losing 3 0f last 4 with blow-out to Philly
11-5 = 1 play-off win, and another blow-out.

I guess if just having above average to very good season records is all one wants, Wade is great. I would like more.

Its not the same thing. Switzer's teams never played as well as Jimmy's teams did. Wade's teams have been better than Parcells' teams.