FWST: Phillips takes high road with critics but points out he has won more than BP

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panchucko;3259412 said:
It happens all of the time, coaches step into good situations. Wade did for sure, Seifert did with the niners, Gruden did with Tampa, it is the way of life, it is what you do with the situation that counts. I think the team we have now is way better than any Cowboy team BP put together.

Seifert Won SB.
Gruden Won SB.

Wade hasn't.

You are in fact correct. This team is much better than any team Bill had. Soooooo.......
 

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YoMick;3259427 said:
Seifert Won SB.
Gruden Won SB.

Wade hasn't.

You are in fact correct. This team is much better than any team Bill had. Soooooo.......

Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl and he was liquor drunk during his entire regime.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3258892 said:
the one's criticizing BP and defending Wade are the same ones who will defend anything the Cowboys do

Wade deserves some criticism for some things. Just as Parcells did.

Nobody was more excited than I was the day we got Parcells, but it was OBVIOUS that he was not an elite coach anymore after that 2004 season here. We got a burn out who only came back for the money.
 

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Apollo Creed;3259431 said:
Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl and he was liquor drunk during his entire regime.

Barry Switzer is another guy that does not get enough credit.
 

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DaBoys4Life;3258920 said:
Tony Romo Jason Witten Dware Andre Gurode Mb3. Also different starters is funny because if they were still on the roster when BP was here what kind of non sense is that? Also 22 different starters? 11 on offense 11 on defense how does that add up ?

Parcells didnt draft Gurode, he came in 2002.

Parcells signed or drafted these key players:

Romo, Witten, Austin, Crayton, Witten, Barber, Kosier, Colombo, Spears, Ratliff, James, Ware, Newman, McBriar

These players were signed or signed after Wade took over:

Davis, Felix Jones, Choice, Bennett, Olshansky, Brooking, Spencer, Jenkins, Scandrick, Hamlin, Sensabaugh

Gurode and Adams were in place when Parcells arrived.
 

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dbair1967;3259443 said:
Parcells didnt draft Gurode, he came in 2002.

Parcells signed or drafted these key players:

Romo, Witten, Austin, Crayton, Witten, Barber, Kosier, Colombo, Spears, Ratliff, James, Ware, Newman, McBriar

These players were signed or signed after Wade took over:

Davis, Felix Jones, Choice, Bennett, Olshansky, Brooking, Spencer, Jenkins, Scandrick, Hamlin, Sensabaugh

Gurode and Adams were in place when Parcells arrived.

Game set match
 

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WV Cowboy;3259440 said:
Barry Switzer is another guy that does not get enough credit.

Standing on the sidelines sober for 3 long hours and pretending to be a coach is a hard task.

Total idiot. Aikman hated him during his entire time here, and he proved what Jerry said - any of a thousand coaches could've coached that team to a Super Bowl.

Bob and I could've coached that team to a Super Bowl. With Hos as our kicking coach.
 

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How many years have to pass before Wade gets credit for the the team? Or blame? If we are going to blame Wade et al for failures on the team, seems he also should be given credit. Or... vice versa, if we are going to still credit Bill for the makeup of the team, then we should blame Bill as well....

I just need to know the exact amount of time that needs to pass before this becomes "Wade's team" and the results (whether good or bad) are attributed to Wade and Wade only; not Bill.
 

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Vintage;3259467 said:
How many years have to pass before Wade gets credit for the the team? Or blame? If we are going to blame Wade et al for failures on the team, seems he also should be given credit. Or... vice versa, if we are going to still credit Bill for the makeup of the team, then we should blame Bill as well....

I just need to know the exact amount of time that needs to pass before this becomes "Wade's team" and the results (whether good or bad) are attributed to Wade and Wade only; not Bill.

Dude, this is Jerry's team.
 

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dbair1967;3259443 said:
Parcells didnt draft Gurode, he came in 2002.

Parcells signed or drafted these key players:

Romo, Witten, Austin, Crayton, Witten, Barber, Kosier, Colombo, Spears, Ratliff, James, Ware, Newman, McBriar

These players were signed or signed after Wade took over:

Davis, Felix Jones, Choice, Bennett, Olshansky, Brooking, Spencer, Jenkins, Scandrick, Hamlin, Sensabaugh

Gurode and Adams were in place when Parcells arrived.

can you really lay the offensive players we've stockpiled on Wade's feet?
 

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dbair1967;3259443 said:
Parcells didnt draft Gurode, he came in 2002.

Parcells signed or drafted these key players:

Romo, Witten, Austin, Crayton, Witten, Barber, Kosier, Colombo, Spears, Ratliff, James, Ware, Newman, McBriar

These players were signed or signed after Wade took over:

Davis, Felix Jones, Choice, Bennett, Olshansky, Brooking, Spencer, Jenkins, Scandrick, Hamlin, Sensabaugh

Gurode and Adams were in place when Parcells arrived.
Witten is so good he was mentioned twice. you can't deny those bolded names are the foundation of this team.
 

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WV Cowboy;3259046 said:
What a stupid thing to say, .. are you 12?

Boysmamacita has great respect on this board, .. of all of the stupid posts you have posted, this is the most stupid.

But while we are talking usernames, yours always brings to mind a tiny little red-headed leprachaun in a green suit kicking a real man in the shins.
:laugh2:
Thanks, WV. I decided not to respond to the troll, but you did so admirably.:)
 

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dbair1967;3259443 said:
Parcells didnt draft Gurode, he came in 2002.

Parcells signed or drafted these key players:

Romo, Witten, Austin, Crayton, Witten, Barber, Kosier, Colombo, Spears, Ratliff, James, Ware, Newman, McBriar

These players were signed or signed after Wade took over:

Davis, Felix Jones, Choice, Bennett, Olshansky, Brooking, Spencer, Jenkins, Scandrick, Hamlin, Sensabaugh

Gurode and Adams were in place when Parcells arrived.
In other words, almost all of the most important players on the team were acquired under Parcells, and little has been added since (or before) other than role players.
 

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Double Trouble;3259498 said:
In other words, almost all of the most important players on the team were acquired under Parcells, and little has been added since (or before) other than role players.

I don't think any one can say that. There has been some really good players signed since Parcells. I just don't think Phillips would have as much input with out Parcells ever being here.

Phillips and Jerry have definitely added talent. The difference is they added talent to an already talented team. That's a bit easier in my book.
 

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FightingIrishman;3258645 said:
Wade Phillips and Bill Parcells should not ever be the same sentence or even paragraph. Hell, they shouldn't be in the same damn article.

Wade comparing himself to BP is beyond ridiculous. It reminds me of all the ******* things he says at his pressers after a loss.... like the bye week in 2007 was the same as a WC Playoff win. Get real Wade. Your legacy is pathetic.

I'm not taking one side or the other, but what in the Hell do you want him to do?

We as Dallas fans expect a LOT... but Wade has a respectable record here... and he DID overcome the December jinx... why shouldn't he bring it up?
 

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DFWJC;3259196 said:
I think it's tougher to go from average to SB than it from the dregs to average. So Wade's task has not been a cakewalk. With a crappy team you get high draft picks and easy schedules, so going from 5-11 to 8-8 or 9-7 is not miraculous. But after your team is in that playoff mix, the increments get much tighter and progress is tougher.
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Well try telling that to Dave Campo.
 

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WV Cowboy;3259440 said:
Barry Switzer is another guy that does not get enough credit.

Actually, he gets too much. He inherited a back to back Super Bowl championship team, that was still relatively young, and basically an entire coaching staff. He was what Jerry said, any one of 500 coaches who could win with that team. Trouble is, even with that team he just made it to one Super Bowl and then two years later ended up 6-10.

Just the first of Jerry's terrible decisions following the departure of Jimmy.
 

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FightingIrishman;3258903 said:
Might want to take a look at the new staff mate.
Y'all said the same thing about "the ol' ball coach"!:lmao2:
 

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Hoofbite;3258585 said:
Its not that he is saying it.

It's why he is saying it.

He's clearly trying to give himself a little boost. I suppose there's nothing wrong with that but it just sounds ridiculous. It's like claiming to be the offseason champions. Means nothing because if you take even a small look beyond the surface you will see so many things that are laughable.

So many mistakes? Like what? Just curious as to what would drive you to say "**** Parcells".
Well let's see no division titles.
No playoff wins.
Waiting wayyyyyy too long/late to start Romo at qb over Bledsoe.
Drafting Carpenter and Julius Jones(especially when you could have had Stephen Jackson which who everyone thought we would take.)
Some embarrassing losses on especially in the 06 season(Philly twice, New Orleans, Detroit).
Not making adjustments and set in his stubborn ways. This sort of ties in to those embarrassing losses.
Bringing in his type of players.

Just things like that irked me about him. There were some things I like about him but he did lot more things that I didn't like while he was here.
 
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