FWST: Phillips takes high road with critics but points out he has won more than BP

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BigDFan5;3259006 said:
Can you refute anything I said or is this smiley the extent of your vocabulary?

Lets measure them out as Coach of the Cowboys


Wins-

Playoffs -


Go ahead and place who was better in the above areas

Your logic in the posed question is skewed to get you the answer you seek. That also is intellectual dishonesty.
 

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burmafrd;3258988 said:
lawyer talk. See that only part of the truth is told to make your side look better. BP built the team Wade has tinkered.

Tinkered?? LOL

Parcells went 6-10, 9-7, and 9-7 his last three seasons, Phillips has won the NFC East 2 of the last 3 years.

You can say BP was a good coach in the late 80's and 1990, .. and nobody would argue.

But he hasn't won a SB since 1990, did not win a division title the last five seasons he coached, won one playoff game since 1996, was 34-30 in Dallas.

The game, or the players, .. something passed him by.

He was good at one time, but not while he was here in Dallas.
 

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FightingIrishman;3259011 said:
Your logic in the posed question is skewed to get you the answer you seek. That also is intellectual dishonesty.

How is comparing Bill Parcells entire tenure as coach of the Cowboys with the entire tenure of Wade as Coach of the Cowboys skewed?

Nothing is skewed, you cant answer because it would ruin the fantasy you built up in your head
 
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WV Cowboy;3259016 said:
SNIP
He was good at one time, but not while he was here in Dallas. SNIP

BP took the Fins from 1-15 to 11-5 in one season.... passed him by? I dont think so mate.

Not to mention took a lot of players and coaches to the Fins. The cowboys were poised to win that next season. How is that not obvious?
 

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Someone who obviously only looks at the surface.

And another lawyer type. Only part of the facts are let out. Hold back those that destroy your argument.
 

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Doomsday101;3258872 said:
He inherited a 9-7 team who played like crap going down the strech in 06 the best season BP had was 10-6 his 1st season in Dallas he then lead them to a 6-10 followed up by 2 9-7 teams. BP did a lot of good things I have said that many times but BP did not leave Wade some championship team he left him a 9-7 team in BP own words it is what it is and that is the pure and simple fact. What is laughable is this notion that BP came and single handely lead the Cowboys allot of people including Jerry played a big role. BP has not won anything is a long time.

Parcells left Wade a team far better than the 5-11 mess he inherited. I just love these simpleminded fans that ignore what each coach inherited and then try to make assinine comparisons. And if you didn't realize, Romo only started part of that final season of BP's. Wade was able to take over a playoff team that should've won in Seattle in the wildcard and a team with Romo getting to make his first start for the entire season.

Like I said before it'd be like comparing Jimmy and Switzer's first two seasons in Dallas and then coming to the conclusion Switzer was a superior coach. Totally ********.

As for having no say on offese? BS he does not call the plays big deal many coaches do not call the offense or defense however Wade is involved through out the week about putting together the game plan. One thing that gets me is this non sense that is made up from coach cup cake BS to he has no say over the offense.

Yeah, Wade has tons of say over the offense. Of course that would be other than hiring the OC who was in place before he arrived and other than hiring the OL coach that Jerry handpicked as well as the majority of decisons made on that side of the ball.
 
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BigDFan5;3259019 said:
How is comparing Bill Parcells entire tenure as coach of the Cowboys with the entire tenure of Wade as Coach of the Cowboys skewed?

Nothing is skewed, you cant answer because it would ruin the fantasy you built up in your head


Let us look at career and legacy shall we? Then it will not be so skewed. You really think Wade came in and all of a sudden made a 13-3 team?
 

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Both men have won squat lately...

What has Parcells won in the last 2 decades? really....supposely built a team and then bolted....thats his MO.

Wade hasn't won anything here either.....but he does have a very good winning percentage and should be respected as a head coach......others get that respect...

This team was not built by just Big Bill.

Bill helped but IMHO he also hurt this team too. Bill's heart was never here to win....he collected a paycheck....loved his ego...and on some occasions payed his old players a retirement check.

Bill played not to lose instead of trying to win. And he would of never won a SB with that attitude.

Also..while as coach...Bill was looking to be in mangement....Giants...whoever.


Wade has taken a team that Bill started getting pieces for and added his own and made this team better.

Lets see where this takes us.

btw....the hype the great Big Bill gets is Favre like......

btw...if Wade fails here....should we hire Bill Walsh next?
 

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Mash;3259027 said:
Bill helped but IMHO he also hurt this team too. Bill's heart was never here to win....he collected a paycheck....loved his ego...and on some occasions payed his old players a retirement check.

you gotta be kidding me?

that's why he blubbered like a baby at a PC after we beat the Panthers? yeah

the lengths some of you go to prop up Wade...
 

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Wade is a good HC, very good to possibly near great DC. HE has NEVER built a team (and those gomers who do not think it was mostly BP that built the Boys are just that). That to me shows what a coach is made of more then one who on several occasions taken over winning teams and until this year could not wina playoff game.
 

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Well...

I see Clarence got what he wanted: people thinking that what Wade said was oh-so HORRIBLE.


Whatever...
 

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FightingIrishman;3259020 said:
BP took the Fins from 1-15 to 11-5 in one season.... passed him by? I dont think so mate.

Not to mention took a lot of players and coaches to the Fins. The cowboys were poised to win that next season. How is that not obvious?


and then his team took a huge step back going 7-9

I am betting on 9-7 next year same results as Dallas piss poor
 

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burmafrd;3258988 said:
lawyer talk. See that only part of the truth is told to make your side look better. BP built the team Wade has tinkered.

There are 12 new starters from the 2006 team to the current one.

Starting RB,FB,WR,WR,RG,NT,RDE,LOLB,RILB,RCB,SS,FS,

That is a lot of "tinkering"
 

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Bach;3259024 said:
Parcells left Wade a team far better than the 5-11 mess he inherited. I just love these simpleminded fans that ignore what each coach inherited and then try to make assinine comparisons. And if you didn't realize, Romo only started part of that final season of BP's. Wade was able to take over a playoff team that should've won in Seattle in the wildcard and a team with Romo getting to make his first start for the entire season.

Like I said before it'd be like comparing Jimmy and Switzer's first two seasons in Dallas and then coming to the conclusion Switzer was a superior coach. Totally ********.



Yeah, Wade has tons of say over the offense. Of course that would be other than hiring the OC who was in place before he arrived and other than hiring the OL coach that Jerry handpicked as well as the majority of decisons made on that side of the ball.

Jimmy left Barry a 2 time back to back SB championship team. BP left Wade a 9-7 team a team who went 1-5 in their last 5 games of 06. Sorry you don't like the facts it is what is it is. BP did not win a single playoff game he only once had the team at 10-6 then went 6-10 , 9-7 and 9-7 it is fact deal with it don't deal with it your choice.


As for Wade yes during the week as they are putting in the game plan he does have input into what they are doing on both sides. He does not call the plays neither did Jimmy Johnson offense or defense but when there are critical calls to be made with in the game such as going for it on 4th that is the call of the HC as it is with Wade. Again you don't like it sorry I'm sick and tired of the made up BS coming out of people mouth. Coach cup cake players say different but then what they hell do they know they are only players not a fan like you. :lmao:
 

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FightingIrishman;3259020 said:
BP took the Fins from 1-15 to 11-5 in one season.... passed him by? I dont think so mate.

Not to mention took a lot of players and coaches to the Fins. The cowboys were poised to win that next season. How is that not obvious?

What does Parcells' tenure in Miami have to do with his coaching tenure in Dallas? He isn't coaching the Dolphins. Also, the Dolphins proceeded to follow up that 11-5 with 7-9.
 

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Doomsday101;3259039 said:
Jimmy left Barry a 2 time back to back SB championship team. BP left Wade a 9-7 team a team who went 1-5 in their last 5 games of 06. Sorry you don't like the facts it is what is it is.

this ..
 

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FightingIrishman;3259026 said:
Let us look at career and legacy shall we? Then it will not be so skewed. You really think Wade came in and all of a sudden made a 13-3 team?


Why should we look at career?

Emmitt Smith is a great running back, but was him in Arizona his last couple seasons better than Rudi Johnson?
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I personally dont care about what happened when he was with the Giants, or New England or the Jets. I care about the Dallas Cowboys and with us he was a total failure as a HEAD COACH
 

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FightingIrishman;3259005 said:
On a comedic side note... your username...

Does that mean to imply that you are the "boys baby mama?"

Grab that cashola while ya can.

What a stupid thing to say, .. are you 12?

Boysmamacita has great respect on this board, .. of all of the stupid posts you have posted, this is the most stupid.

But while we are talking usernames, yours always brings to mind a tiny little red-headed leprachaun in a green suit kicking a real man in the shins.
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