FWST: Phillips takes high road with critics but points out he has won more than BP

[sonnyboy]

Let us look at career and legacy shall we? Then it will not be so skewed. You really think Wade came in and all of a sudden made a 13-3 team?

Well as his predecessor would say........."you are what you are"

Nobody can deny that Parcells was a great hire in 2002. He was exactly what we needed and he put the franchise back on the map.

He pretty much did what he was brought here to do. Would've liked to see him here a year or two more to see if he could've taken us the rest of the way.

Wade was brought here to take this good team to the next level. Improve it overall, especially on defense, win in the postseason and compete for a SB.

He's pretty much done what he's was brought here to do. Can't wait to see what he does over the next year or two.


Oh I almost forgot........Commanders SUCK!

 

[FightingIrishman]

Why should we look at career?

I care about the Dallas Cowboys and with us he was a total failure as a HEAD COACH

Dumbest post ever mate.... ever.

 

[Bach]

Can you refute anything I said or is this smiley the extent of your vocabulary?

Lets measure them out as Coach of the Cowboys
Wins-
Playoffs -
Go ahead and place who was better in the above areas

Like I said, ignore what each inherited and then make some apples to oranges, simpleminded comparison.

But it doesn't surprise me. You're the same type of fan who probably thinks Barry was a better coach than Jimmy based on what they each accomplished early in their tenure here. And the same type who thinks Jerry was the brains, instead of Jimmy, behind the majority of the personnel moves those first five years just because Jerry was able to give himself a title.

And yes, I at guys like you.

 

[BigDFan5]

Dumbest post ever mate.... ever.

You must not read your own posts mate


Nice of you to totally avoid my point though it takes skill to have as many posts as you do in this thread without actually saying anything.

Unless you are impressed with an average of 8.5 wins a year and no playoff wins in that case you should LOVE Wade, but then again being average under Parcells is better than being above average with Phillips right? You must REALLY love you some press conferences

 

[BigDFan5]

Like I said, ignore what each inherited and then make some apples to oranges, simpleminded comparison.

But it doesn't surprise me. You're the same type of fan who probably thinks Barry was a better coach than Jimmy based on what they each accomplished early in their tenure here. And the same type who thinks Jerry was the brains, instead of Jimmy, behind the majority of the personnel moves those first five years just because Jerry was able to give himself a title.

And yes, I at guys like you.

I look at a coaches entire tenure here and base my decision on that, Jimmy was obviously a better coach than Switzer, Just like Switzer was better than Gailey.

Parcells inherited a bad team and made it average

Phillips inherited an average team and made it above average

Their records in reg season and playoffs do not compare so obviously you will stick to replying with smileys instead of facts.

I would laugh at people like you, but honestly its not funny its kind of sad

 

[windward]

The people defending Tubby Mcbutterpants are simply out-of-touch. Wade Phillips should not be in the same conversation as Parcells.

Wade loves to shoot his mouth off with wild spin to make himself look like a football coach. The best thing that has happened to the Commanders (besides Allen and Shanahan), Giants, and Eagles this year so far is that Wade was signed for 2 more years.

He will never contend for a title.

What do you call 2007 and 2009? Or do you not understand the meaning of the word contend?

 

[Bach]

I look at a coaches entire tenure here and base my decision on that, Jimmy was obviously a better coach than Switzer, Just like Switzer was better than Gailey.

Parcells inherited a bad team and made it average

Phillips inherited an average team and made it above average

Their records in reg season and playoffs do not compare so obviously you will stick to replying with smileys instead of facts.

I would laugh at people like you, but honestly its not funny its kind of sad

And Wade had the luxury of starting out from day one with Romo as the starting QB. But I'm sure to the simpleminded, that's just a little irrelevant fact, just as the caliber of overall team that each inherited.

 

[BigDFan5]

And Wade had the luxury of starting out from day one with Romo as the starting QB. But I'm sure to the simpleminded, that's just a little irrelevant fact, just as the caliber of overall team that each inherited.

SO then you are in love with Sean Payton not Bill Parcells?

shake it anyway you like but Parcells was a bust in Dallas, he helped organize the scouting dept (then didnt listen to them on occasion)

Other than that he was an absolute failure

 

[Bach]

I 'm sick and tired of the made up BS coming out of people mouth. Coach cup cake players say different but then what they hell do they know they are only players not a fan like you.

He's a good defensive coordinator, but that's about it. Sorry you don't want to deal with it, but it's fact.

 

[WV Cowboy]

And Wade had the luxury of starting out from day one with Romo as the starting QB. But I'm sure to the simpleminded, that's just a little irrelevant fact, just as the caliber of overall team that each inherited.

The Romo we watched over the last 6 weeks of this season is sure not the Romo Wade inherited.

 

[Bach]

SO then you are in love with Sean Payton not Bill Parcells?

shake it anyway you like but Parcells was a bust in Dallas, he helped organize the scouting dept (then didnt listen to them on occasion)

Other than that he was an absolute failure

I had issues with Parcells, several in fact. But bottomline is that he's a far better HC than Wade has ever been.

You let Wade take over in '03 and it's probable we wouldn't have had one winning season with him here, let alone 3 with 2 playoff appearances.

Likewise, let Parcells take over in '07 with Romo established as the starting QB and there's a good chance we would've made it past the divisonal round of the playoffs by now.

And what's actually funny about this whole discussion is that unlike Parcells, Wade is only HC in name only. He has zero control over the offensive staff, he's just a glorified DC. Yet some of you are trying to say he's a better HEAD COACH than Parcells. So forgive me, but yes that is totally laughable.

 

[Rampage]

SO then you are in love with Sean Payton not Bill Parcells?

shake it anyway you like but Parcells was a bust in Dallas, he helped organize the scouting dept (then didnt listen to them on occasion)

Other than that he was an absolute failure

why did Sean Payton choose to coach in Dallas? Bill Parcells.

 

[Bach]

The Romo we watched over the last 6 weeks of this season is sure not the Romo Wade inherited.

And?

The fact remains that Romo got the starting nod part way during Parcells final season and we made the playoffs and just barely lost in Seattle in the playoffs. Wade then took over with Romo already established as the QB.

Of course 3 or 4 years later Romo has developed even more since then. But even so, that sure isn't DC Wade's doing.

 

[windward]

Has Wade had a bettere career than BP? No.

Did BP play a large hand in rebuilding this organization? Yes.


Does this mean that any coach, regardless of quality succeeding him would produce a 34-16 record and 2 division titles, including the franchises' first playoff win? No.

Has the team progressed from 2006 to 2009? Yes.

Do bad/average coaches cause their teams to progress or regress?
Can a team progress in spite of it's coaching staff?

Answer these last 2 questions and you realize that Wade has not done as bad a job as some want to portray here and gets way too much flak.


Is the aforementioned record

 

[windward]

He's a good defensive coordinator, but that's about it. Sorry you don't want to deal with it, but it's fact.

No that's an opinion.

They teach these things in fifth grade. Sheesh.

 

[TheDude]

I had issues with Parcells, several in fact. But bottomline is that he's a far better HC than Wade has ever been.

You let Wade take over in '03 and it's probable we wouldn't have had one winning season with him here, let alone 3 with 2 playoff appearances.

Likewise, let Parcells take over in '07 with Romo established as the starting QB and there's a good chance we would've made it past the divisonal round of the playoffs by now.

And what's actually funny about this whole discussion is that unlike Parcells, Wade is only HC in name only. He has zero control over the offensive staff, he's just a glorified DC. Yet some of you are trying to say he's a better HEAD COACH than Parcells. So forgive me, but yes that is totally laughable.

Game. Set Match

 

[cowboyeric8]

Why does it have to be one side or the other?

Bill got us on winning track, sure. But plain and simple he quit on the team, I'm not going to defend the man. I simply think the game has passed him by.

I think Wade has done a nice job so far. Could it be better? Of course, but his time is not yet over in Dallas. So I will support the coach.

 

[windward]

Why does it have to be one side or the other?

Bill got us on winning track, sure. But plain and simple he quit on the team, I'm not going to defend the man. I simply think the game has passed him by.

I think Wade has done a nice job so far. Could it be better? Of course, but his time is not yet over in Dallas. So I will support the coach.

It doesn't have to be.

Some can't get over that unfortunately.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Has Wade had a bettere career than BP? No.

Did BP play a large hand in rebuilding this organization? Yes.


Does this mean that any coach, regardless of quality succeeding him would produce a 34-16 record and 2 division titles, including the franchises' first playoff win? No.

What's funny is, many if not most of these people claimed when Bill left that we were on a fast track back to the Campo/Lacewell years.

It's not worth my time to search for it, but I guarantee you some people in this thread even insisted we'd be 5-11 within three years of Bill quitting.

 

[cowboyeric8]

It doesn't have to be.

Some can't get over that unfortunately.

Exactly. I'm happy with what Bill did, but I'm through with him, it isn't his team anymore.

I honestly think people dislike Wade just because of press conferences. Get over it people, who cares.

Am I that big of a fan of Wade? Not really. But I can look back and he has done well with a chance to do even better. And he is the head coach of the Cowboys, so I hope he does very well.